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Ozempic = devastating for claim that obesity crisis is not from overeating

All these “theories” about why obesity has been ...
stirring idiotic ape
  07/05/25
nobody took these "theories" seriously, anyone who...
curious goyim
  07/05/25
There was a big thread maybe two years ago on CICO, I think ...
stirring idiotic ape
  07/05/25
did any of them actually lose weight doing anything other th...
curious goyim
  07/05/25
those poasters were all fat or jewish and poisoning the well...
laughsome church building nibblets
  07/05/25
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Frum Plaza
  07/06/25
It was bizarre. Their main point was that someone might han...
Purple candlestick maker stead
  07/05/25
Even if you believe in CICO (you shouldn't), it is still unf...
Soul-stirring light parlour kitty
  07/05/25
Some people don't have the ability to create the systems and...
Ocher swashbuckling heaven
  07/06/25
i get it, and i'm not disagreeing, but i do want to understa...
charismatic vermilion selfie
  07/05/25
So if CICO is all that matters why not just eat only junk fo...
Fiercely-loyal stubborn native
  07/05/25
How much McDonalds does it take to hit 2k calories? (Less fo...
misanthropic mauve school cafeteria
  07/05/25
You absolutely could. There are other things you might value...
Ocher swashbuckling heaven
  07/06/25
CICO is not real in the sense that human beings do not use h...
insane generalized bond
  07/05/25
...
Soul-stirring light parlour kitty
  07/05/25
"CI" really refers human-metabolized calories, not...
Ocher swashbuckling heaven
  07/06/25
* carbohydrate insulin model
insane generalized bond
  07/05/25
Insulin is an exceedingly potent compound. Food, and espe...
misanthropic mauve school cafeteria
  07/05/25
180 and cr
insane generalized bond
  07/05/25
CO factor.
Ocher swashbuckling heaven
  07/06/25
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mahogany mischievous senate roommate
  07/06/25
would not be surprised if long-term use ends up being linked...
stimulating space halford
  07/05/25
in a way i think the drug confirms some of the conspiracy th...
charismatic vermilion selfie
  07/05/25
i doubt it reaches the level of a conspiracy. it's just food...
stimulating space halford
  07/05/25
agreed. but i could see, for example, big ag and consultants...
charismatic vermilion selfie
  07/05/25
This is about as revealing as saying that the 1970s energy c...
Aqua wild hall marketing idea
  07/05/25
Calorie per dollar declined. More cars per capita. Calorie i...
judgmental friendly grandma
  07/05/25
> Calorie per dollar declined Obesity is more common i...
Aqua wild hall marketing idea
  07/05/25
I don’t think higher obesity among the poor discredits...
judgmental friendly grandma
  07/05/25
Calories per dollar declined? Or do you mean the exact oppos...
Exciting parlor athletic conference
  07/05/25
yea I don't disagree that "people lose weight when they...
stirring idiotic ape
  07/05/25
A 100-IQ CICO redditor arguing with an 80-IQ "slow meta...
Aqua wild hall marketing idea
  07/05/25
is this donny? ozempic proves CICO. sorry your other theorie...
stirring idiotic ape
  07/05/25
CICO is true, whether or not ozempic works, and is hardly pr...
Aqua wild hall marketing idea
  07/05/25
No kidding, all of those things just result in people eating...
stirring idiotic ape
  07/05/25
You really have a lot of trouble with proximate and ultimate...
Aqua wild hall marketing idea
  07/05/25
...
Aphrodisiac party of the first part boiling water
  07/05/25
You really have trouble with rebutting an OP, dont you?
stirring idiotic ape
  07/05/25
That dude already laid it out for you. If you can’t un...
Aphrodisiac party of the first part boiling water
  07/05/25
"No one on this board claimed CICO was false" *...
stirring idiotic ape
  07/05/25
"you don't want to be a part of such a midwit debate&qu...
Vigorous property
  07/05/25
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Aphrodisiac party of the first part boiling water
  07/05/25
I don't understand what people taking a drug proves about CI...
Soul-stirring light parlour kitty
  07/05/25
Ozempic actually just shows that regulating food intake has ...
Aphrodisiac party of the first part boiling water
  07/05/25
This. You can’t really blame fat people for being fat....
offensive business firm water buffalo
  07/05/25
If only you loved your children enough to take the magical d...
aquamarine concupiscible lodge pervert
  07/05/25
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curious goyim
  07/05/25
I'm not going to take that poison. I'd rather just quit eati...
offensive business firm water buffalo
  07/05/25
You have the biggest ego of any single poster on this board ...
aquamarine concupiscible lodge pervert
  07/05/25
id rather do something ive demonstrated i have no ability to...
Vigorous property
  07/05/25
Do you believe we can't blame an addict for being an addict?...
misanthropic mauve school cafeteria
  07/05/25
I’m turning it all around starting today, brother. Die...
offensive business firm water buffalo
  07/05/25
lol
flushed dingle berry blood rage
  07/05/25
Diets don't work. You can only achieve your goals with a ...
misanthropic mauve school cafeteria
  07/05/25
how is that inconsistent with CICO being correct
stirring idiotic ape
  07/05/25
No one has ever argued that food consumption doesn’t c...
Aphrodisiac party of the first part boiling water
  07/05/25
Yes people on this very board were arguing that calories in ...
stirring idiotic ape
  07/05/25
Lol here you go - is this your thread?: https://autoadmit.co...
stirring idiotic ape
  07/05/25
Heres another one dumbass: https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?...
stirring idiotic ape
  07/05/25
I remember when lots of people maintained that smoking cigar...
misanthropic mauve school cafeteria
  07/05/25
yea the idiots itt would tell you that its not smoking that ...
stirring idiotic ape
  07/05/25
How fucking old are you?
copper trailer park
  07/05/25
Xennial. Smoking was really big in the '90s, and there wa...
misanthropic mauve school cafeteria
  07/05/25
its harder to go after obesity because it requires temperanc...
Vigorous property
  07/05/25
Yeah, that's something that took me a while to realize. I...
misanthropic mauve school cafeteria
  07/05/25
having an obese child should carry the same social stigma as...
Vigorous property
  07/05/25
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misanthropic mauve school cafeteria
  07/05/25
I sort of see the OP's point, but I think the argument was a...
irradiated multi-billionaire electric furnace
  07/05/25
"People don't really eat that stuff anymore" Pe...
misanthropic mauve school cafeteria
  07/05/25
sedantary people can completely isolate themselves in ways t...
Vigorous property
  07/05/25
And when one portion of food from 'eating out' fulfills the ...
misanthropic mauve school cafeteria
  07/05/25
just look at your grocery receipt. produce and fresh foods a...
marvelous windowlicker
  07/05/25
my only point from the beginning to the end of this thread i...
stirring idiotic ape
  07/05/25
Midwit take, who tf is arguing that hard against CICO? If...
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  07/05/25
"Midwit take, who tf is arguing that hard against CICO?...
Ocher swashbuckling heaven
  07/06/25
zero people are disagreeing with CICO completely. they're po...
Vigorous property
  07/05/25
CICO is idiotic. The body is not a closed energy system and ...
irradiated multi-billionaire electric furnace
  07/05/25
it's not idiotic, it's just reductionist. it's both true tha...
Vigorous property
  07/05/25
“ and also that there is nuance regarding type of calo...
judgmental friendly grandma
  07/05/25
we're engaging in scholarship here, not brainstorming on mar...
Vigorous property
  07/05/25
CR the med diet always makes me lol at anti-carbmos
stirring idiotic ape
  07/06/25
yeah i agree with this take CICO is a signpost or a start t...
topaz tattoo
  07/05/25
cr. the nuance of how different calories are processed by di...
Vigorous property
  07/05/25
TBF, a cake or pizza will give you some mind-blowing pumps. ...
misanthropic mauve school cafeteria
  07/05/25
dieters definitely do cheat days. but it's not for pump but ...
Vigorous property
  07/05/25
I've never been a fan of IIFYM. Quality matters, but won't m...
misanthropic mauve school cafeteria
  07/05/25
it applies to everyone because we all have human bodies and ...
Vigorous property
  07/05/25
one cr trick for staying slim popcorn. air pop some popcorn...
topaz tattoo
  07/06/25
Here you go dumbass: https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread...
stirring idiotic ape
  07/06/25
that's a bait thread that a lot of autists took
Vigorous property
  07/06/25
much worse for the body positivity movement, even Lizzo is g...
Honey-headed Casino Persian
  07/06/25
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violet provocative abode sneaky criminal
  07/06/25
As someone on one of these (not Ozempic, but Zepbound), let ...
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  07/06/25
I lost a huge amount of weight (more than 250 lbs.) and have...
Ocher swashbuckling heaven
  07/06/25
Did you ever consider doing nicotine to lose weight. It has ...
stirring idiotic ape
  07/06/25
I occasionally use Zyn pouches these days, but not as an app...
Autistic irate cuckold degenerate
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How much do you weigh now? Did you lose 45 pounds simply f...
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Around 225 now, hope to see a 1 on the scale by September. ...
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  07/06/25


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Date: July 5th, 2025 9:57 AM
Author: stirring idiotic ape

All these “theories” about why obesity has been increasing that point to reasons other than fats overeating and not exercising have been EXPOSED as total lies.

All Ozempic does is make you eat less, and viola, fats lose weight when that happens.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49073715)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 10:03 AM
Author: curious goyim

nobody took these "theories" seriously, anyone who lost weight in the history of ever has been preaching CICO

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49073717)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 10:05 AM
Author: stirring idiotic ape

There was a big thread maybe two years ago on CICO, I think I started it, where tons of posters were claiming CICO was not real. “Gut bacteria” and other nonsense about why CICO didn’t matter.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49073720)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 11:21 AM
Author: curious goyim

did any of them actually lose weight doing anything other than CICO? Those poasters are not serious people.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49073829)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 11:29 AM
Author: laughsome church building nibblets

those poasters were all fat or jewish and poisoning the well

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49073839)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 12:11 AM
Author: Frum Plaza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49075464)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 11:38 AM
Author: Purple candlestick maker stead

It was bizarre. Their main point was that someone might handle 2250 differently than 2200. It had nothing to do with 2200 v 3200.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49073854)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 5:37 PM
Author: Soul-stirring light parlour kitty

Even if you believe in CICO (you shouldn't), it is still unfeasible for people to try to lose weight with that method. You are basically arguing in favor of restriction.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49074583)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 10:10 AM
Author: Ocher swashbuckling heaven

Some people don't have the ability to create the systems and exercise the discipline necessary for some things. The necessary things are still necessary.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49075894)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 12:32 PM
Author: charismatic vermilion selfie

i get it, and i'm not disagreeing, but i do want to understand this better.

suppose someone argues that CICO is too simple because some calories provoke your body's fullness sensors and some (perhaps processed foods) bypass the sensors.

if that's true, it's consistent with the success of these new drugs, right?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49073972)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 12:37 PM
Author: Fiercely-loyal stubborn native

So if CICO is all that matters why not just eat only junk food all sugar for calories?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49073982)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 12:41 PM
Author: misanthropic mauve school cafeteria

How much McDonalds does it take to hit 2k calories? (Less for non-active individuals.)

Just because we've engineered foods to be calorie-dense and non-filling doesn't negate CICO.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49073988)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 10:11 AM
Author: Ocher swashbuckling heaven

You absolutely could. There are other things you might value, but you could lose weight on that diet.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49075895)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 2:42 PM
Author: insane generalized bond

CICO is not real in the sense that human beings do not use heat energy nor can one consume photons. mass in mass out works. eating less chemical energy works. Calories are not an appropriate measure of the energy available to human beings. If it was, coal and lumber would be very fattening.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49074215)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 5:39 PM
Author: Soul-stirring light parlour kitty



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49074592)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 10:12 AM
Author: Ocher swashbuckling heaven

"CI" really refers human-metabolized calories, not gross. All you're doing is refining CI.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49075897)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 2:41 PM
Author: insane generalized bond

* carbohydrate insulin model

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49074211)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 2:54 PM
Author: misanthropic mauve school cafeteria

Insulin is an exceedingly potent compound.

Food, and especially sugars, should be viewed as drugs for this reason alone.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49074243)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 2:55 PM
Author: insane generalized bond

180 and cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49074246)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 10:12 AM
Author: Ocher swashbuckling heaven

CO factor.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49075898)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 12:20 AM
Author: mahogany mischievous senate roommate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49075473)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 10:06 AM
Author: stimulating space halford

would not be surprised if long-term use ends up being linked to some cancers, particularly of the pancreas, which are almost always terminal. there are safer ways to suppress your appetite.

although to be fair, "eat less and exercise more" was easier when addictive, calorie-dense foods weren't as common as they are now. don't blame the fats entirely, but give them the majority of the blame.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49073721)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 10:14 AM
Author: charismatic vermilion selfie

in a way i think the drug confirms some of the conspiracy theories about big ag and US obesity since the 1970s. the drug utterly proves that to some degree it's the body's unconscious assessment of fullness that regulates a lot of weight gain and loss, and it makes sense that big ag would try to produce food that never triggers a fullness response.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49073728)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 10:21 AM
Author: stimulating space halford

i doubt it reaches the level of a conspiracy. it's just food companies maximizing profit by making you eat more without regard for your health/weight (after all, they're not responsible for that).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49073736)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 10:39 AM
Author: charismatic vermilion selfie

agreed. but i could see, for example, big ag and consultants explicitly, deliberately and discretely working on food production that bypasses your body's fullness sensors. conspiracy in that sense.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49073766)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 10:35 AM
Author: Aqua wild hall marketing idea

This is about as revealing as saying that the 1970s energy crisis was due to overuse of gas. You should distinguish between proximate and ultimate causes. Why are people overeating today, when they did not always do this in other calorie-rich environments?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49073759)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 10:40 AM
Author: judgmental friendly grandma

Calorie per dollar declined. More cars per capita. Calorie in calorie out

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49073769)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 10:51 AM
Author: Aqua wild hall marketing idea

> Calorie per dollar declined

Obesity is more common in poor people

> More cars per capita

Maybe. OP said it was all over-eating

> Calorie in calorie out

The conservation of energy is bedrock. And it is about as explanative for the obesity epidemic as it is for the 1970s energy crisis. You need to learn to distinguish proximate and ultimate causes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49073794)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 12:29 PM
Author: judgmental friendly grandma

I don’t think higher obesity among the poor discredits the cheaper calorie theory. I do agree there are deeper causes but I disagree that any of the explanations debunk CICO or what we know about nutrition and biology.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49073969)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 5:04 PM
Author: Exciting parlor athletic conference

Calories per dollar declined? Or do you mean the exact opposite?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49074519)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 10:48 AM
Author: stirring idiotic ape

yea I don't disagree that "people lose weight when they eat fewer calories" is not particularly revealing. but then are people who deny this, and Ozempic has exposed them as frauds. that food is more addictive today is not inconsistent with CICO.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49073785)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 10:54 AM
Author: Aqua wild hall marketing idea

A 100-IQ CICO redditor arguing with an 80-IQ "slow metabolism" tweeter is not a debate that you want to be on *either* side of.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49073799)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 11:11 AM
Author: stirring idiotic ape

is this donny? ozempic proves CICO. sorry your other theories about why people are fat have been totally debunked with Ozempic, which only causes people to eat less. that foods have more calories now is besides the point entirely.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49073815)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 11:44 AM
Author: Aqua wild hall marketing idea

CICO is true, whether or not ozempic works, and is hardly proved by it.

The obesity epidemic, which is new, is not explained by CICO, which has always been true.

In fact, obesity is caused by the historically novel easy availability of nutrition-dense (ie., calorie-dense), easily digestible, and highly-palatable (ie., addictive) foods. Take away any of those three things, and obesity is not as bad. Take them away during childhood, and obesity is not as bad. In the presence of all three, genetic resistance to massive weight gain has historically been the best prophylactic, with "discipline" being rarely effective for more than a 1-2 year time frame.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49073876)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 11:56 AM
Author: stirring idiotic ape

No kidding, all of those things just result in people eating more calories.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49073889)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 12:08 PM
Author: Aqua wild hall marketing idea

You really have a lot of trouble with proximate and ultimate cause, don't you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49073907)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 12:13 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac party of the first part boiling water



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49073922)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 12:14 PM
Author: stirring idiotic ape

You really have trouble with rebutting an OP, dont you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49073925)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 12:21 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac party of the first part boiling water

That dude already laid it out for you. If you can’t understand that’s on you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49073950)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 12:22 PM
Author: stirring idiotic ape

"No one on this board claimed CICO was false"

*links you to multiple threads*

The point of this thread is extremely simple: CICO is not flame, its vey real, and ozempic makes that clear. not really interested in your or donnys jewish sophistry.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49073956)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 12:34 PM
Author: Vigorous property

"you don't want to be a part of such a midwit debate"

*joins debate*

what you're saying isn't particularly hard to understand. if someone is too obtuse to understand that's on them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49073975)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 11:57 AM
Author: Aphrodisiac party of the first part boiling water



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49073890)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 5:47 PM
Author: Soul-stirring light parlour kitty

I don't understand what people taking a drug proves about CICO.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49074621)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 10:58 AM
Author: Aphrodisiac party of the first part boiling water

Ozempic actually just shows that regulating food intake has almost nothing to do with discipline. It’s just that some bodies say they are full earlier than others.

Not a fat but that’s the obvious takeaway.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49073803)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 11:06 AM
Author: offensive business firm water buffalo

This. You can’t really blame fat people for being fat. Some fats just react to stress by overeating and are literally always hungry. Trust me, I know.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49073808)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 11:07 AM
Author: aquamarine concupiscible lodge pervert

If only you loved your children enough to take the magical drug which makes you not want to eat much!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49073810)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 11:22 AM
Author: curious goyim



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49073830)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 11:26 AM
Author: offensive business firm water buffalo

I'm not going to take that poison. I'd rather just quit eating and climb Teewinot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49073836)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 11:28 AM
Author: aquamarine concupiscible lodge pervert

You have the biggest ego of any single poster on this board and are willing to kill yourself over it instead of living to see your children graduate. Fucking piece of shit scumbag

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49073837)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 12:36 PM
Author: Vigorous property

id rather do something ive demonstrated i have no ability to do

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49073979)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 12:39 PM
Author: misanthropic mauve school cafeteria

Do you believe we can't blame an addict for being an addict?

Many people react to stress by consuming dangerous substances and are literally always craving a substance.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49073986)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 12:40 PM
Author: offensive business firm water buffalo

I’m turning it all around starting today, brother. Diet starts right now. This instant.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49073987)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 4:42 PM
Author: flushed dingle berry blood rage

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49074494)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 4:45 PM
Author: misanthropic mauve school cafeteria

Diets don't work.

You can only achieve your goals with a true change in how you live your life, from this day to the end.

All the strength you need is inside you, bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49074500)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 11:07 AM
Author: stirring idiotic ape

how is that inconsistent with CICO being correct

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49073811)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 11:56 AM
Author: Aphrodisiac party of the first part boiling water

No one has ever argued that food consumption doesn’t correlate with weight. If you don’t eat you lose weight.

Ozempic shows these people aren’t necessary overeating…they are eating until they are full just like everyone else.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49073887)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 11:57 AM
Author: stirring idiotic ape

Yes people on this very board were arguing that calories in is not the key variable, dumbass.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49073891)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 12:18 PM
Author: stirring idiotic ape

Lol here you go - is this your thread?: https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&mc=131&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49073936)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 12:18 PM
Author: stirring idiotic ape

Heres another one dumbass: https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5287916&mc=119&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49073938)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 12:09 PM
Author: misanthropic mauve school cafeteria

I remember when lots of people maintained that smoking cigarets didn't cause cancer; it was because [insert other reason].

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49073911)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 12:16 PM
Author: stirring idiotic ape

yea the idiots itt would tell you that its not smoking that causes cancer. its the fancy packaging,. social pressure, and addictive nicotine that causes you to smoke, and think they made a point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49073931)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 12:17 PM
Author: copper trailer park

How fucking old are you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49073933)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 12:21 PM
Author: misanthropic mauve school cafeteria

Xennial.

Smoking was really big in the '90s, and there was a huge (& successful) anti-smoking push in the '00s.

I really thought they'd go after obesity in the same manner, but, unfortunately, no.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49073949)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 12:39 PM
Author: Vigorous property

its harder to go after obesity because it requires temperance in consuming something necessary

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49073984)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 12:42 PM
Author: misanthropic mauve school cafeteria

Yeah, that's something that took me a while to realize.

I've been in the weightlifting scene since my teens, so the idea of not treating food like a drug is still foreign to me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49073990)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Vigorous property

having an obese child should carry the same social stigma as allowing your child to smoke.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49073994)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: misanthropic mauve school cafeteria

TITCR

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49073995)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 2:33 PM
Author: irradiated multi-billionaire electric furnace

I sort of see the OP's point, but I think the argument was always that our modern society and frankenstein food and microplastics is throwing off our natural digestive process.

I'm not sure how this is "disproved" by the fact that you can your body more in line with its natural chemical state by injecting Gila Monster venom into your stomach.

Moreover, it looks like one big way it works is it physically keeps food in your stomach for longer - which again, suggests (i) hunger is not simply a mental test but has a physical component as well and (ii) the physical component is influenced heavily by hormones.

So I'd challenge the OP, if Gila Monster venom can keep food in your stomach for longer, isn't it possible that food dyes/microplastics/chemical sweeteners/background radiation could have the reverse effect?

My point has always been people started getting super fat in the late 90s early 2000s with super sized McDonald's meals. People don't really eat that stuff anymore, plus more people are exercising than ever, yet (until Ozempic) people are still getting fatter....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49074198)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 2:40 PM
Author: misanthropic mauve school cafeteria

"People don't really eat that stuff anymore"

People are eating out more than ever, and it's all similarly bad food. Even in grocery stores, real food is a very small part of what they sell.

"more people are exercising than ever"

I think people talk about exercising more than ever, and buy more exercising products/services. ("Look how many steps this screen said I took yesterday!")

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49074210)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 2:47 PM
Author: Vigorous property

sedantary people can completely isolate themselves in ways the couldn't before. wfh job, doordash, and mcu is streaming almost immediately.

if you just walked around your local mainstreet you see fewer fat people than years ago. but obesity is still on the rise. bleak.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49074220)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 2:52 PM
Author: misanthropic mauve school cafeteria

And when one portion of food from 'eating out' fulfills the 1.5k calories needed by a sedentary individual, this is what we see.

I'm adamantly against the concept of walking as exercise, but only because it should be part of everyday life, regardless of one's occupation. How can people live lives where walking is considered exercise?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49074231)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 4:47 PM
Author: marvelous windowlicker

just look at your grocery receipt. produce and fresh foods are not taxed and in a separate section. what percentage of your grocery bill is taxed frankenstein food?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49074502)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 3:00 PM
Author: stirring idiotic ape

my only point from the beginning to the end of this thread is that CICO deniers including some on this board are dumb and I've linked several of those threads above.

but its impossible to deny CICO now, because *even if* all these other explanations have any merit, CICO is still king, none of them supersede CICO, and sticking solely with CICO is all that is necessary.

the solution to losing weight, as has now been conclusively proven with ozempic, is just eat less, as ozempic forces you to do. all these other factors dont matter if you just eat less, thats the point. CICO is still king.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49074272)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 5:26 PM
Author: chrome area

Midwit take, who tf is arguing that hard against CICO?

If anything ozempic shows humans don’t have free will and thus you can’t attach any moral failure for obesity. What you really want to do is judge obese people for their “choices” , just like generations before you judged addicts, those with mental illness, epileptics, etc.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49074556)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 10:14 AM
Author: Ocher swashbuckling heaven

"Midwit take, who tf is arguing that hard against CICO?"

Candy Ride

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49075900)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 5:29 PM
Author: Vigorous property

zero people are disagreeing with CICO completely. they're pointing out nuance that makes CICO so reductionist that it's midwit and useless.

it's like you're arguing medicine is stupid because we're mortal.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49074561)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 7:53 PM
Author: irradiated multi-billionaire electric furnace

CICO is idiotic. The body is not a closed energy system and different types of calories are obviously processed very differently. Eating 2,400 calories in steak in one sitting is different than eating 2,400 calories in cake in one sitting which is different than eating 100 calories of soda every hour.

I think xoxo has always been on board with the "eat less, move more" movement in terms of losing weight for an individual.

But I'm sympathetic to the idea that Americans didn't go from being 10% obese to 50% obese simply because people started moving less and eating more - it seems like in the 90s almost everyone was naturally normal looking even if they did eat McDonalds 5 timse a week and never worked out. People then ate tons of sugary cereals and chips and cookies too. Now conversely there's lots of people who eat salads every day and who go to some type of gym a few times a week and are still 30 pounds overweight.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49074927)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 7:57 PM
Author: Vigorous property

it's not idiotic, it's just reductionist. it's both true that you *will* lose weight if you operate at a caloric deficit, and also that there is nuance regarding type of calories consumed, how they're processed, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49074940)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 8:06 PM
Author: judgmental friendly grandma

“ and also that there is nuance regarding type of calories consumed, how they're processed, etc”

The nuance is at best an interesting topic for academics. There’s been far too much emphasis on the types of calories we take in and not anywhere near enough on the simple caloric intake. Check out the recent article on Italian diets. an American dietician would scream at the amount of carbs they consume, and yet, they live long lives and weigh much less. They simply consume less.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49074953)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 8:17 PM
Author: Vigorous property

we're engaging in scholarship here, not brainstorming on marketing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49074975)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 12:08 AM
Author: stirring idiotic ape

CR the med diet always makes me lol at anti-carbmos

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49075455)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 8:00 PM
Author: topaz tattoo

yeah i agree with this take

CICO is a signpost or a start to the weight loss conversation but there are plenty of other factors involved beyond it

if you have only one weight loss axiom to go off of though its one of the better ones

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49074943)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 8:21 PM
Author: Vigorous property

cr. the nuance of how different calories are processed by different people, psychology of physiology of why and how a person feels hungry, conditioning to becoming accustomed to and satisfied by the most palatable foods, how difficult is it to break that, etc. etc. for fats all of this nuance is fertile ground for excuse making.

"count calories and exercise" works 100% of the time because of thermodynamics. it doesn't matter whether those calories come from cake or kale.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49074982)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 8:29 PM
Author: misanthropic mauve school cafeteria

TBF, a cake or pizza will give you some mind-blowing pumps.

Do normal people even do cheat days?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49075001)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 8:34 PM
Author: Vigorous property

dieters definitely do cheat days. but it's not for pump but because few former fatties can accept the iron chains of permanent NOICECREAM.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49075005)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 8:42 PM
Author: misanthropic mauve school cafeteria

I've never been a fan of IIFYM. Quality matters, but won't make any difference to people who aren't in competitive condition.

Likewise, I think a lot of the 'nuances' mentioned ITT apply to athletes, but not to average middle-age people.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49075012)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: Vigorous property

it applies to everyone because we all have human bodies and consume food and most want to be healthy. and it matters for the sake of it for anyone interested in truth, i.e. autists and nerds.

so yeah for non-athletic normies "count calories, *eat a high quality and balanced diet, and exercise" is cr and most attempts to learn the science behind food just confuse the issue if youre trying to get normies to be healthy.

*eating mcdonalds at a caloric deficit will cause weight loss but is still super unhealthy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49075028)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 5:34 AM
Author: topaz tattoo

one cr trick for staying slim

popcorn. air pop some popcorn, very filling, great fiber content, ok protein, very healthy if you don't slather butter or oil on. i like salt, pepper, and sumac on mine. can gorge yourself on it and still be calorie negative despite all the energy it gives you as a fairly low glycemic index grain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49075666)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 12:16 AM
Author: stirring idiotic ape

Here you go dumbass: https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&mc=131&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49075469)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 5:44 AM
Author: Vigorous property

that's a bait thread that a lot of autists took

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49075670)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 12:22 AM
Author: Honey-headed Casino Persian

much worse for the body positivity movement, even Lizzo is getting thinner and that balloon was a major focal point

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49075475)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:11 AM
Author: violet provocative abode sneaky criminal



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Date: July 6th, 2025 9:22 AM
Author: Autistic irate cuckold degenerate

As someone on one of these (not Ozempic, but Zepbound), let me provide some perspective

1) I am down about 45 lbs since March

2) Obesity is caused by calorie in / calorie out - eating less is the key. Quality of foods is secondary in terms of weight (obviously matters in terms of health, body composition, etc)

3) Ozempic makes you think about food less, and eat less when you do. When I was at my biggest, I would have a nice dinner, go out for drinks with friends, and have shitty food (second dinner) after drinking. I wouldn’t feel “full” after doing this. Now, not only can I physically not do that (because I feel too full), I don’t want to. People who are obese think about food more, usually don’t feel full, and often have emotional feedback loops that lead to overeating. Ozempic stops all of that.

4) Sedentary lifestyle plays a role - but the biggest misconception to me is that Ozempic is something you do instead of working out. If you are fat, and lose a bunch of weight, you actually want to start working out to gain muscle, look better, etc. You are more likely to feel comfortable in a gym instead of self conscious. You respond well to progress. And this is critical, you don’t get hungrier after doing cardio, because you aren’t hungry at all. More widespread adoption of Ozempic will lead to more working out overall, not less.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49075852)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 10:18 AM
Author: Ocher swashbuckling heaven

I lost a huge amount of weight (more than 250 lbs.) and have kept it off for years. I didn't use surgery or drugs, but the rest of that nevertheless rings true to me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49075905)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:54 PM
Author: stirring idiotic ape

Did you ever consider doing nicotine to lose weight. It has similar suppression of appetite effects though I am sure not as strong

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49077489)



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Date: July 7th, 2025 10:11 AM
Author: Autistic irate cuckold degenerate

I occasionally use Zyn pouches these days, but not as an appetite suppressant

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49078541)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 9:01 PM
Author: cobalt alcoholic forum

How much do you weigh now?

Did you lose 45 pounds simply from not eating as much? Or did you exercise, walk, lift, etc?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49077502)



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Date: July 7th, 2025 10:11 AM
Author: Autistic irate cuckold degenerate

Around 225 now, hope to see a 1 on the scale by September.

Eating less, plus a lot of exercise - cardio and lifting. I am in Equinox around 5 times a week - two or three cardio days, two or three weight days depending on the week. I try to walk a lot as well. Cardio usually consists of spin or running classes. Sometimes I do a stair master session. Lifting has been with a trainer recently, who closes most sessions with conditioning (assault bike, ski erg, regular erg, elliptical).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2Reputation#49078537)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 9:59 PM
Author: Aggressive Goal In Life

unknown pumo, good post

looks legit



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