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Elon Musk's proposed Boring Company tunnel is literally parallel to Blue Line

http://graphics.chicagotribune.com/elon-musk-tunnel-loop-pha...
judgmental charismatic persian
  01/09/19
lol wtf? there's a huge transit black hole between the no...
umber crackhouse ratface
  01/09/19
and I believe this is designed to transport cars. Seems like...
judgmental charismatic persian
  01/09/19
Initially, at least, this is just for high speed transit bet...
Rusted Toilet Seat
  01/09/19
it doesn't really take that long to get from ORD to the Loop...
judgmental charismatic persian
  01/09/19
yeah, i was pretty surprised honestly. wouldn't be where i'd...
slap-happy talented temple windowlicker
  01/09/19
it seems like the $5B or however much this ends up costing c...
judgmental charismatic persian
  01/09/19
apparently the city won't be paying for it, but i don't know...
slap-happy talented temple windowlicker
  01/10/19
It takes 42 minutes on the blue line best case scenario vs. ...
bearded wild hissy fit stage
  01/10/19
Except this train is going to one station downtown and your ...
diverse cuck boistinker
  01/10/19
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judgmental charismatic persian
  01/10/19
Yes, but still faster to Uber from teh downtown station, tha...
bearded wild hissy fit stage
  01/10/19
Also this will be expensive as fuark to actually use.
burgundy chapel
  01/14/19
it's for moving people between downtown and the airport.
slap-happy talented temple windowlicker
  01/09/19
correct me if I'm wrong, but the Blue Line currently serves ...
judgmental charismatic persian
  01/09/19
Correct, the blue line does it in about 40 minutes, this sho...
Rusted Toilet Seat
  01/09/19
It would only make sense to do this with Uber/driverless car...
burgundy chapel
  01/14/19
How can he possibly get insurance for this shit? If it goes...
Khaki library
  01/09/19
just lol at how much of a fucking fraud this thing is: &q...
judgmental charismatic persian
  01/09/19
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Gold mildly autistic brethren
  01/09/19
it's almost as if construction is generally run by entrenche...
Charcoal dead location messiness
  01/09/19
yeah i'm sure that's it or Elon could just be the biggest fr...
judgmental charismatic persian
  01/09/19
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odious abode old irish cottage
  01/09/19
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Wonderful opaque box office volcanic crater
  01/09/19
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Razzmatazz angry affirmative action
  01/09/19
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adventurous mexican personal credit line
  01/10/19
This is an idiotic take. The issue with construction is it i...
French Alcoholic Puppy
  01/10/19
The costs aren’t the part that bothers me. It’s...
Khaki library
  01/09/19
WILL SOMEONE CONSIDER THE INDEMNIFICATION CLAUSE?
judgmental charismatic persian
  01/09/19
Musk will be sharing a jail cell with Shkreli before the end...
Gold mildly autistic brethren
  01/09/19
(pedo guy)
offensive vigorous trump supporter
  01/09/19
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aromatic ape prole
  01/09/19
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Wonderful opaque box office volcanic crater
  01/09/19
Chicago for some reason has been obsessed with an express tr...
diverse cuck boistinker
  01/09/19
I don't understand it but it's been proposed off and on for ...
blue vivacious athletic conference
  01/10/19
Musk is 180 and that fact that he got something - ANYTHING -...
Pearl double fault goal in life
  01/10/19
No he's not. He took a used sewage tunnel boring machine an...
Gold mildly autistic brethren
  01/10/19
That's the whole point. Simply use smaller tunnels that can ...
bearded wild hissy fit stage
  01/10/19
All that to shave 30 minutes off the commute time to O'Hare.
burgundy chapel
  01/10/19
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judgmental charismatic persian
  01/10/19
oh what a grand thinker!
odious abode old irish cottage
  01/10/19
The Blue Line is running at maximum capacity (trains/hour) d...
diverse cuck boistinker
  01/10/19
Musk is footing the bill himself. Takes no funding from teh ...
bearded wild hissy fit stage
  01/10/19
The number of airportmos on the blue line train take up one ...
diverse cuck boistinker
  01/10/19
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judgmental charismatic persian
  01/14/19
30 minutes is a lot. 80,000 take the blue line from ORD now....
bearded wild hissy fit stage
  01/10/19
Ridership was 11,000/day in 2017. And a not trivial amount ...
diverse cuck boistinker
  01/10/19
Why don't employees count? Anyway, this is where I saw th...
bearded wild hissy fit stage
  01/10/19
How many CTA employees are hopping on the blue line from the...
judgmental charismatic persian
  01/10/19
CR. Shit, how many ORD employees even live on the North asid...
blue vivacious athletic conference
  01/10/19
I guess they could change over from Red if they live on the ...
judgmental charismatic persian
  01/10/19
I don't know what the actual stats are (just going by the ar...
bearded wild hissy fit stage
  01/10/19
yeah man Musk is just being super altruistic
judgmental charismatic persian
  01/10/19
*autistic
blue vivacious athletic conference
  01/10/19
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judgmental charismatic persian
  01/10/19
No, he thinks he might make a profit. If you think it's a lo...
bearded wild hissy fit stage
  01/10/19
He's "fixing" Chicago's least important traffic is...
burgundy chapel
  01/14/19
It's gonna cost $70 to ride this thing
burgundy chapel
  01/14/19
Someone needs to run a train line that connects the Western ...
burgundy chapel
  01/14/19
someone needs to run a train on Musk's boihole in prison
judgmental charismatic persian
  01/14/19
You mean like this: https://metrarail.com/maps-schedules/...
diverse cuck boistinker
  01/14/19
No, I mean something that runs northeast from the Eisenhower...
burgundy chapel
  01/17/19
They have trains. I don't want it any easier for Byrwynmos t...
blue vivacious athletic conference
  01/14/19
https://www.arstechnica.com/cars/2019/03/local-leaders-cooli...
judgmental charismatic persian
  03/26/19
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Date: January 9th, 2019 4:19 PM
Author: judgmental charismatic persian

http://graphics.chicagotribune.com/elon-musk-tunnel-loop-phare/img/map.png

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2Reputation#37560911)



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Date: January 9th, 2019 4:25 PM
Author: umber crackhouse ratface

lol wtf?

there's a huge transit black hole between the north side (lincoln park, lakeview, uptown) and the nice parts of the northwest side (bucktown, logan square, irving park). I have no idea why he wouldn't build something there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2Reputation#37560950)



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Date: January 9th, 2019 4:29 PM
Author: judgmental charismatic persian

and I believe this is designed to transport cars. Seems like injecting even more cars into downtown is the last thing they need.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2Reputation#37560976)



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Date: January 9th, 2019 4:43 PM
Author: Rusted Toilet Seat

Initially, at least, this is just for high speed transit between the Loop and ORD.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2Reputation#37561089)



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Date: January 9th, 2019 4:46 PM
Author: judgmental charismatic persian

it doesn't really take that long to get from ORD to the Loop on the blue line now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2Reputation#37561100)



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Date: January 9th, 2019 4:48 PM
Author: slap-happy talented temple windowlicker

yeah, i was pretty surprised honestly. wouldn't be where i'd expect this kind of thing to be used.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2Reputation#37561121)



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Date: January 9th, 2019 4:49 PM
Author: judgmental charismatic persian

it seems like the $5B or however much this ends up costing could probably be put to better use in Chicago, but IDK

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2Reputation#37561127)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 12:10 PM
Author: slap-happy talented temple windowlicker

apparently the city won't be paying for it, but i don't know how true that will be.

hopefully the drilling will open a sink hole and the entire city will collapse into it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2Reputation#37565783)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 11:35 AM
Author: bearded wild hissy fit stage

It takes 42 minutes on the blue line best case scenario vs. estimated 12 minutes using the new tunnel. Huge difference in QOL. You would never have to think about whether to Uber vs. train. Basically as good as a downtown airport.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2Reputation#37565532)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 11:45 AM
Author: diverse cuck boistinker

Except this train is going to one station downtown and your hotel may be far from it and only a certain number of trains will go per hour.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2Reputation#37565607)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 11:47 AM
Author: judgmental charismatic persian



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2Reputation#37565618)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 11:47 AM
Author: bearded wild hissy fit stage

Yes, but still faster to Uber from teh downtown station, than catch an Uber at ORD unless you're coming in at like midnight.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2Reputation#37565621)



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Date: January 14th, 2019 2:51 PM
Author: burgundy chapel

Also this will be expensive as fuark to actually use.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2Reputation#37590454)



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Date: January 9th, 2019 4:47 PM
Author: slap-happy talented temple windowlicker

it's for moving people between downtown and the airport.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2Reputation#37561110)



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Date: January 9th, 2019 4:52 PM
Author: judgmental charismatic persian

correct me if I'm wrong, but the Blue Line currently serves that same function

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2Reputation#37561143)



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Date: January 9th, 2019 5:03 PM
Author: Rusted Toilet Seat

Correct, the blue line does it in about 40 minutes, this should be substantially less.

Musk is supposed to be bankrolling the whole thing himself as a test case for his tunneling tech.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2Reputation#37561220)



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Date: January 14th, 2019 2:56 PM
Author: burgundy chapel

It would only make sense to do this with Uber/driverless cars, at which point you may as well just have a train. WTF good does a car do you at the airport?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2Reputation#37590486)



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Date: January 9th, 2019 4:27 PM
Author: Khaki library

How can he possibly get insurance for this shit? If it goes wrong the claims are billions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2Reputation#37560958)



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Date: January 9th, 2019 4:33 PM
Author: judgmental charismatic persian

just lol at how much of a fucking fraud this thing is:

"The project has some detractors who don’t see it as feasible. The Boring Company says that it can do it for about $1 billion, which is a fraction of what a 17-mile tunnel would generally cost."



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2Reputation#37561010)



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Date: January 9th, 2019 4:39 PM
Author: Gold mildly autistic brethren



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2Reputation#37561055)



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Date: January 9th, 2019 4:44 PM
Author: Charcoal dead location messiness

it's almost as if construction is generally run by entrenched frauds and dumbasses and a smart 180 dude comes along and is like "wow i can do it for WAY less $$$$"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2Reputation#37561091)



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Date: January 9th, 2019 4:46 PM
Author: judgmental charismatic persian

yeah i'm sure that's it or Elon could just be the biggest fraud and dumbass in the entire world

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2Reputation#37561105)



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Date: January 9th, 2019 4:50 PM
Author: odious abode old irish cottage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2Reputation#37561130)



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Date: January 9th, 2019 4:59 PM
Author: Wonderful opaque box office volcanic crater



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2Reputation#37561187)



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Date: January 9th, 2019 5:51 PM
Author: Razzmatazz angry affirmative action



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2Reputation#37561569)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 12:47 PM
Author: adventurous mexican personal credit line



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2Reputation#37566047)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 1:36 PM
Author: French Alcoholic Puppy

This is an idiotic take. The issue with construction is it is a risky, low-margin business so there is no money for R&D. And it is really political and legal issues (obtaining ROW, fighting interest group lawsuits, and greasing the wheel politically) holding things up.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2Reputation#37566501)



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Date: January 9th, 2019 4:50 PM
Author: Khaki library

The costs aren’t the part that bothers me. It’s the potential liability.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2Reputation#37561133)



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Date: January 9th, 2019 4:52 PM
Author: judgmental charismatic persian

WILL SOMEONE CONSIDER THE INDEMNIFICATION CLAUSE?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2Reputation#37561140)



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Date: January 9th, 2019 4:39 PM
Author: Gold mildly autistic brethren

Musk will be sharing a jail cell with Shkreli before the end of the Trump presidency

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2Reputation#37561060)



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Date: January 9th, 2019 4:58 PM
Author: offensive vigorous trump supporter

(pedo guy)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2Reputation#37561172)



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Date: January 9th, 2019 5:04 PM
Author: aromatic ape prole



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2Reputation#37561231)



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Date: January 9th, 2019 4:59 PM
Author: Wonderful opaque box office volcanic crater



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2Reputation#37561189)



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Date: January 9th, 2019 5:09 PM
Author: diverse cuck boistinker

Chicago for some reason has been obsessed with an express train to/from O'Hare. They lately tried to trick private investors to build it and let them keep the proceeds. It will never, ever make a profit. The train ridership from O'hare to downtown is a lot lower than you'd think.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2Reputation#37561261)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 12:17 PM
Author: blue vivacious athletic conference

I don't understand it but it's been proposed off and on for years

Fucccck ORD cabs though. Anything that fucks with them is cool by me

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2Reputation#37565828)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 11:00 AM
Author: Pearl double fault goal in life

Musk is 180 and that fact that he got something - ANYTHING - built in CA is a testament to his willpower and genius.

This probably has more to do with the crooked city council than anything else.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2Reputation#37565259)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 11:29 AM
Author: Gold mildly autistic brethren

No he's not. He took a used sewage tunnel boring machine and bored a tunnel at the cost and in the time that sewage tunnels are bored, then drove a Tesla through it and pretended it was some kind of act of breakthrough genius

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2Reputation#37565484)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 11:39 AM
Author: bearded wild hissy fit stage

That's the whole point. Simply use smaller tunnels that can be dug 10x faster and potentially 100x cheaper. And then spend some of the savings on the car transport platforms that are automated so they can run 2x-3x the normal flow of traffic.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2Reputation#37565561)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 11:42 AM
Author: burgundy chapel

All that to shave 30 minutes off the commute time to O'Hare.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2Reputation#37565582)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 11:44 AM
Author: judgmental charismatic persian



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2Reputation#37565592)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 11:48 AM
Author: odious abode old irish cottage

oh what a grand thinker!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2Reputation#37565631)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 11:51 AM
Author: diverse cuck boistinker

The Blue Line is running at maximum capacity (trains/hour) during rush hour and the train cars are packed like boxes of sardines. And they are still building new condos along it.

It desperately needs a system upgrade but nope, gotta have some dat airport express!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2Reputation#37565663)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 11:56 AM
Author: bearded wild hissy fit stage

Musk is footing the bill himself. Takes no funding from teh blue line. And this would reduce blue line ridership.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2Reputation#37565708)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 12:08 PM
Author: diverse cuck boistinker

The number of airportmos on the blue line train take up one car, max. And not all of these people care about paying premium to get to D/T quickly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2Reputation#37565777)



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Date: January 14th, 2019 2:50 PM
Author: judgmental charismatic persian



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2Reputation#37590447)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 11:54 AM
Author: bearded wild hissy fit stage

30 minutes is a lot. 80,000 take the blue line from ORD now. Probably at least 2-3x that if you include the taxis and Uber. 200,000 people per day = 100,000 man-hours * $20/hr = $2M per day saved.

Plus you reduce a lot of Uber traffic on I90.

Anyway, the point is it's all private funding, so why the hell not. If Elon can't turn a profit, who cares. Not sure why anyone would oppose it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2Reputation#37565692)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 12:28 PM
Author: diverse cuck boistinker

Ridership was 11,000/day in 2017. And a not trivial amount of that is O'hare employees.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2Reputation#37565906)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 12:35 PM
Author: bearded wild hissy fit stage

Why don't employees count?

Anyway, this is where I saw the 80k:

“The Blue Line is seeing unprecedented investment,” said CTA spokesman Brian Steele. The Blue Line is the service’s second busiest line, after the Red Line, and the branch between downtown and O’Hare sees more than 80,000 riders on an average weekday.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/wisniewski/ct-biz-blue-line-improvements-getting-around-20180614-story.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2Reputation#37565968)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 12:40 PM
Author: judgmental charismatic persian

How many CTA employees are hopping on the blue line from the loop?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2Reputation#37566005)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 12:42 PM
Author: blue vivacious athletic conference

CR. Shit, how many ORD employees even live on the North aside, period? They're hopping on at fucking Forest Park.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2Reputation#37566013)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 12:44 PM
Author: judgmental charismatic persian

I guess they could change over from Red if they live on the south side, but still.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2Reputation#37566026)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 12:50 PM
Author: bearded wild hissy fit stage

I don't know what the actual stats are (just going by the article). But the point is this is privately funded. Even if only 1000 people take it, that's still 1000 less in the sardine car or on the freeway.

Musk: trying to fix shitty transport using his own cash

You: Purell

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2Reputation#37566086)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 12:55 PM
Author: judgmental charismatic persian

yeah man Musk is just being super altruistic

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2Reputation#37566133)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 12:57 PM
Author: blue vivacious athletic conference

*autistic

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2Reputation#37566148)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 12:57 PM
Author: judgmental charismatic persian



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2Reputation#37566152)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 1:23 PM
Author: bearded wild hissy fit stage

No, he thinks he might make a profit. If you think it's a losing venture, then don't invest, and feel free to mock him later when it fails. But there is no reason to oppose the plan or talk about lack of funding of the blue line.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2Reputation#37566384)



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Date: January 14th, 2019 2:53 PM
Author: burgundy chapel

He's "fixing" Chicago's least important traffic issue.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2Reputation#37590466)



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Date: January 14th, 2019 2:51 PM
Author: burgundy chapel

It's gonna cost $70 to ride this thing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2Reputation#37590458)



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Date: January 14th, 2019 2:49 PM
Author: burgundy chapel

Someone needs to run a train line that connects the Western suburbs to the north side. Would be running at near capacity with a year

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2Reputation#37590440)



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Date: January 14th, 2019 2:50 PM
Author: judgmental charismatic persian

someone needs to run a train on Musk's boihole in prison

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2Reputation#37590452)



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Date: January 14th, 2019 4:00 PM
Author: diverse cuck boistinker

You mean like this:

https://metrarail.com/maps-schedules/system-map

(and rush hour trains run are jam packed)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2Reputation#37590761)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 10:41 AM
Author: burgundy chapel

No, I mean something that runs northeast from the Eisenhower around Oak Park and runs straight to like Addison and Clark

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2Reputation#37607581)



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Date: January 14th, 2019 4:03 PM
Author: blue vivacious athletic conference

They have trains. I don't want it any easier for Byrwynmos to get to the city.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2Reputation#37590773)



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Date: March 26th, 2019 9:19 AM
Author: judgmental charismatic persian

https://www.arstechnica.com/cars/2019/03/local-leaders-cooling-to-boring-company-tunnel-promises

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Date: July 17th, 2025 8:42 PM
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