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Want to piss off a physicist? Ask them what the Pauli exclusion principle is

Let them give you the canned definition, then ask "ok b...
Silver black woman dingle berry
  12/09/23
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Silver black woman dingle berry
  12/10/23
which ones ignore it? bosons?
Flushed Impertinent Location Elastic Band
  12/10/23
Photons, most notoriously. I think other "bosons" ...
Silver black woman dingle berry
  12/10/23
This question always annoys me because they named the partic...
Silver black woman dingle berry
  12/10/23
Why anything? Answering why fermions and bosons exist would ...
blathering greedy corner
  12/10/23
Exhibit a
Silver black woman dingle berry
  12/10/23
Why do we recognize that they exist? Literally math and a ce...
blathering greedy corner
  12/10/23
"Recognize" is the strongest verb you can use here...
Silver black woman dingle berry
  12/10/23
That's literally all of physics you retard We don't "k...
blathering greedy corner
  12/10/23
A photoelectric sensor can report that it detected particles...
Silver black woman dingle berry
  12/10/23
It's the same principle, photons don't get collected like ba...
blathering greedy corner
  12/10/23
We have a lot more confirmatory evidence that a photon passe...
Silver black woman dingle berry
  12/10/23
More evidence for photon: 0 pinocchios Inconsequential: 5 p...
blathering greedy corner
  12/10/23
We have eyes that can detect photons and we can compare what...
Silver black woman dingle berry
  12/10/23
This is an empirical problem, not a problem with muons.
blathering greedy corner
  12/10/23
It's an ontological problem. Moreover, even if we could conf...
Silver black woman dingle berry
  12/10/23
Okay, now instead of simply being wrong, you are additionall...
blathering greedy corner
  12/10/23
You can definitely feel that shit. Or watch water boil with ...
Silver black woman dingle berry
  12/10/23
physicists HATE Nsam!
mind-boggling piazza macaca
  12/10/23
Its when Tony and everyone else refused to visit Paulie in t...
Self-absorbed coral theatre scourge upon the earth
  12/10/23
When she goes star-gazing, the galaxies have to hide THEIR f...
blathering greedy corner
  12/10/23
The Paui exclusion principle: it's not a "law" bec...
Silver black woman dingle berry
  12/10/23
So you just dispute it being called "principle" in...
blathering greedy corner
  12/10/23
No, I think "principle" is an accurate descriptor....
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  12/10/23
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Date: December 9th, 2023 8:37 PM
Author: Silver black woman dingle berry

Let them give you the canned definition, then ask "ok but why isn't it called the Pauli Exclusion Law?" That's when they get pissed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5457899&forum_id=2Reputation#47152546)



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Date: December 10th, 2023 12:17 AM
Author: Silver black woman dingle berry



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5457899&forum_id=2Reputation#47153162)



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Date: December 10th, 2023 12:30 AM
Author: Flushed Impertinent Location Elastic Band

which ones ignore it? bosons?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5457899&forum_id=2Reputation#47153185)



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Date: December 10th, 2023 12:42 AM
Author: Silver black woman dingle berry

Photons, most notoriously. I think other "bosons" do too if they even exist. No one has ever seen most of them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5457899&forum_id=2Reputation#47153210)



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Date: December 10th, 2023 12:46 AM
Author: Silver black woman dingle berry

This question always annoys me because they named the particles after Bose, but Bose was only looking at photons. Photons should be called "bosons"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5457899&forum_id=2Reputation#47153217)



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Date: December 10th, 2023 12:50 AM
Author: blathering greedy corner

Why anything? Answering why fermions and bosons exist would be in the purview of a TOE/GUT. And even then you could still ask "why?" like why does anything exist at all?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5457899&forum_id=2Reputation#47153224)



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Date: December 10th, 2023 12:52 AM
Author: Silver black woman dingle berry

Exhibit a

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5457899&forum_id=2Reputation#47153227)



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Date: December 10th, 2023 12:54 AM
Author: blathering greedy corner

Why do we recognize that they exist? Literally math and a century of observation you mouthbreather.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5457899&forum_id=2Reputation#47153232)



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Date: December 10th, 2023 12:56 AM
Author: Silver black woman dingle berry

"Recognize" is the strongest verb you can use here. The most you can say is that experimental data is consistent with what we would expect if they existed. That doesn't mean something else couldn't be causing the results, it just means you can't think of a more plausible explanation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5457899&forum_id=2Reputation#47153237)



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Date: December 10th, 2023 12:58 AM
Author: blathering greedy corner

That's literally all of physics you retard

We don't "know" anything empirical about anything beyond what empirical knowledge currently describes. You like to pick at pet topics but you really have a gripe with the philosophy of physics, which is a topic you are entirely too autistic to comprehend.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5457899&forum_id=2Reputation#47153241)



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Date: December 10th, 2023 1:00 AM
Author: Silver black woman dingle berry

A photoelectric sensor can report that it detected particles directly. No one has ever built a muon detector that can tell you where the muon touched it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5457899&forum_id=2Reputation#47153245)



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Date: December 10th, 2023 1:06 AM
Author: blathering greedy corner

It's the same principle, photons don't get collected like balls in a chute, there must be some sort of interaction.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5457899&forum_id=2Reputation#47153253)



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Date: December 10th, 2023 1:10 AM
Author: Silver black woman dingle berry

We have a lot more confirmatory evidence that a photon passed through the detector than we have that a theoretical particle caused some inconsequential effect when we detected when turned on the magnets at LHC.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5457899&forum_id=2Reputation#47153258)



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Date: December 10th, 2023 1:13 AM
Author: blathering greedy corner

More evidence for photon: 0 pinocchios

Inconsequential: 5 pinocchios

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muon_tomography

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5457899&forum_id=2Reputation#47153262)



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Date: December 10th, 2023 1:18 AM
Author: Silver black woman dingle berry

We have eyes that can detect photons and we can compare what our eyes see with what the thingy reports. Can't do that with muons. We're seeing an effect we would expect to see if muons exist, but we've also imagined a particle that can do all the things we're seeing. It's circular logic, because you're constantly allowing the definition of "muon" to evolve with whatever the fuck it is you're measuring. You're not telling me something is red when my eyes also tell me it's red.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5457899&forum_id=2Reputation#47153278)



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Date: December 10th, 2023 1:19 AM
Author: blathering greedy corner

This is an empirical problem, not a problem with muons.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5457899&forum_id=2Reputation#47153286)



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Date: December 10th, 2023 1:26 AM
Author: Silver black woman dingle berry

It's an ontological problem. Moreover, even if we could confirm the existence of these subatomic particles it would move us no closer to understanding a goddamn thing about physics. Just because a particle can cross the Higgs field doesn't mean it broke the supersymmetry and brought matter into existence. It just means we can't totally discard that theory (even though it was already discarded by the time we "detected" the particle).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5457899&forum_id=2Reputation#47153315)



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Date: December 10th, 2023 1:28 AM
Author: blathering greedy corner

Okay, now instead of simply being wrong, you are additionally being incoherent.

I did find out that you can see IR photons though, maybe the government controls you with TV remotes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5457899&forum_id=2Reputation#47153323)



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Date: December 10th, 2023 1:38 AM
Author: Silver black woman dingle berry

You can definitely feel that shit. Or watch water boil with no fire

https://physics.info/thermo-first/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5457899&forum_id=2Reputation#47153365)



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Date: December 10th, 2023 12:53 AM
Author: mind-boggling piazza macaca

physicists HATE Nsam!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5457899&forum_id=2Reputation#47153229)



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Date: December 10th, 2023 12:53 AM
Author: Self-absorbed coral theatre scourge upon the earth

Its when Tony and everyone else refused to visit Paulie in the can. Led to quite a row when Paulie was mad enough about it that he told Johnny Sack about Ralph's Ginny fat joke.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5457899&forum_id=2Reputation#47153230)



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Date: December 10th, 2023 12:55 AM
Author: blathering greedy corner

When she goes star-gazing, the galaxies have to hide THEIR food!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5457899&forum_id=2Reputation#47153235)



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Date: December 10th, 2023 12:54 AM
Author: Silver black woman dingle berry

The Paui exclusion principle: it's not a "law" because particles can ignore it. Otherwise they would call it Pauli's law.

But it's also not described as a character of the particles. Instead it's presented as some overarching "principle" that an Italian man uncovered.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5457899&forum_id=2Reputation#47153234)



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Date: December 10th, 2023 12:56 AM
Author: blathering greedy corner

So you just dispute it being called "principle" instead of "theory."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5457899&forum_id=2Reputation#47153238)



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Date: December 10th, 2023 12:59 AM
Author: Silver black woman dingle berry

No, I think "principle" is an accurate descriptor. It lets you know up front that it's not actual "law" of physics in any meaningful sense. At the same it's settled. Whoever the fuck Pauli was, the debate ended with him. Stop asking questions about this area of physics.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5457899&forum_id=2Reputation#47153242)



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Date: November 15th, 2025 11:24 PM
Author: Silver black woman dingle berry



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5457899&forum_id=2Reputation#49434780)