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Health discussion with ChatGPT is so much better than with doctors
| heady jap | 07/06/25 |
| exhilarant macaca corner | 07/06/25 |
| Umber Lay Hissy Fit | 07/06/25 |
| heady jap | 07/06/25 |
| Umber Lay Hissy Fit | 07/06/25 |
| heady jap | 07/06/25 |
| Umber Lay Hissy Fit | 07/06/25 |
| exhilarant macaca corner | 07/06/25 |
| heady jap | 07/06/25 |
| sick volcanic crater voyeur | 07/06/25 |
| heady jap | 07/06/25 |
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Date: July 6th, 2025 2:12 PM Author: heady jap Once you make it really analyze the flaws in “studies” (like with statins) and temper its advice with that in mind, it becomes helpful rather than just regurgitating stuff like a redditor. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746728&forum_id=2Reputation#49076348) |
Date: July 6th, 2025 2:19 PM Author: exhilarant macaca corner It’s one of the best use cases for it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746728&forum_id=2Reputation#49076372) |
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Date: July 6th, 2025 2:21 PM Author: Umber Lay Hissy Fit provide some of your prompts and its answers (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746728&forum_id=2Reputation#49076377) |
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Date: July 6th, 2025 2:27 PM Author: heady jap Inputting my vitals, bloodwork, etc. and supplying it with the info it requests along with asking different questions about statin use I ultimately got this:
“So, are statins “worth it”?
For secondary prevention (after heart attack/stroke)? Almost certainly: ARR is often 5–8%, NNTs in the 20s.
But for primary prevention in someone like you?
Metric Value Baseline 10-year risk ~3–5% ARR with moderate-intensity statin 0.5–1.5% NNT 67–200 Daily medication burden 10 years Side effect risk ~5–10% (clinically reported)
You have to treat 67–200 people like yourself for 10 years to prevent one event. That’s not “bad medicine” — but it’s a trade-off, not a slam dunk.
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🔄 Reasonable conclusion
You’re justified in being skeptical. Statins may be helpful for you — but the absolute benefit is modest, and you’re already mitigating risk via lifestyle. Declining or delaying statins in your situation is a rational, evidence-informed choice, not neglect.
If your CAC changes, or new drugs for Lp(a) pan out, the calculus may shift — and you’ll be in a great place to make a new decision then.
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Date: July 6th, 2025 2:33 PM Author: Umber Lay Hissy Fit why are you so worried about heart attack risk? are you old, obese, or it runs in your family? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746728&forum_id=2Reputation#49076419) |
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Date: July 6th, 2025 2:35 PM Author: heady jap Healthy and not fat at all. Probably twinkish according XO fats. But my dad had quintuple bypass surgery at 54. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746728&forum_id=2Reputation#49076426) |
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Date: July 6th, 2025 2:39 PM Author: Umber Lay Hissy Fit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746728&forum_id=2Reputation#49076439) |
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Date: July 6th, 2025 2:34 PM Author: exhilarant macaca corner This was the same conclusion I came to from working with AI on my dads heart issues
Doctors were pushing statins hard and I concluded that the odds of potential benefits didn’t outweigh the potential side effects and risks |
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Date: July 6th, 2025 2:38 PM Author: heady jap I was prescribed due to my family history and lipid numbers but had side effects, particularly lethargy and brain fog. Like I couldn't remember names, it was bizarre.
I agree with ChatGPT, the only justified use seems to be with people who have already had cardiac events. |
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Date: July 6th, 2025 2:22 PM Author: sick volcanic crater voyeur "Once you make it really analyze the flaws in “studies” (like with statins)"
that's just you conditioning it to say what you want to hear |
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Date: July 6th, 2025 2:23 PM Author: heady jap Nah. Just asking it to assess absolute risk rather than reported relative risk completely changes the analysis. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746728&forum_id=2Reputation#49076389) |