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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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Obsidian Vigorous Multi-billionaire
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
stirring sneaky criminal parlor
  12/16/25
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Obsidian Vigorous Multi-billionaire
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
chocolate curious philosopher-king dragon
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
stirring sneaky criminal parlor
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
chocolate curious philosopher-king dragon
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
stirring sneaky criminal parlor
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
chocolate curious philosopher-king dragon
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
Obsidian Vigorous Multi-billionaire
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
stirring sneaky criminal parlor
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
chocolate curious philosopher-king dragon
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
stirring sneaky criminal parlor
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
chocolate curious philosopher-king dragon
  12/17/25
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Obsidian Vigorous Multi-billionaire
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stirring sneaky criminal parlor
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
Excitant Ruby Tanning Salon Clown
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
stirring sneaky criminal parlor
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Excitant Ruby Tanning Salon Clown
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
Passionate At-the-ready Jew
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
stirring sneaky criminal parlor
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
Metal deranged black woman depressive
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
stirring sneaky criminal parlor
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
transparent duck-like feces station
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Obsidian Vigorous Multi-billionaire
  12/17/25
i love scholarship
razzmatazz potus round eye
  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
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Obsidian Vigorous Multi-billionaire
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Obsidian Vigorous Multi-billionaire
  12/17/25
There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
chocolate curious philosopher-king dragon
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
Contagious Amethyst Giraffe Stain
  12/16/25


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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: Obsidian Vigorous Multi-billionaire



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: stirring sneaky criminal parlor

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: Obsidian Vigorous Multi-billionaire

18000

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: chocolate curious philosopher-king dragon

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: stirring sneaky criminal parlor

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: chocolate curious philosopher-king dragon

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: stirring sneaky criminal parlor

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: chocolate curious philosopher-king dragon

Guns are muktzah.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: Obsidian Vigorous Multi-billionaire

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: stirring sneaky criminal parlor

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: chocolate curious philosopher-king dragon

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: stirring sneaky criminal parlor

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: chocolate curious philosopher-king dragon

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Obsidian Vigorous Multi-billionaire



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: stirring sneaky criminal parlor



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: Excitant Ruby Tanning Salon Clown

how do they get home?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: stirring sneaky criminal parlor

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: Excitant Ruby Tanning Salon Clown



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: Passionate At-the-ready Jew

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: stirring sneaky criminal parlor

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: Metal deranged black woman depressive

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: stirring sneaky criminal parlor

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: transparent duck-like feces station

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: stirring sneaky criminal parlor



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Obsidian Vigorous Multi-billionaire



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: razzmatazz potus round eye

i love scholarship

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: Big brunch elastic band

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: stirring sneaky criminal parlor



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: razzmatazz potus round eye



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Obsidian Vigorous Multi-billionaire



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: chocolate curious philosopher-king dragon

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: Contagious Amethyst Giraffe Stain

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

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