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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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bateful brunch
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
Aggressive Clear Lay Generalized Bond
  12/16/25
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bateful brunch
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
geriatric dashing stage
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
Aggressive Clear Lay Generalized Bond
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
geriatric dashing stage
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
Aggressive Clear Lay Generalized Bond
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
geriatric dashing stage
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
bateful brunch
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
Aggressive Clear Lay Generalized Bond
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
geriatric dashing stage
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
Aggressive Clear Lay Generalized Bond
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
geriatric dashing stage
  12/17/25
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bateful brunch
  12/17/25
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Aggressive Clear Lay Generalized Bond
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
Crimson at-the-ready roast beef
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
Aggressive Clear Lay Generalized Bond
  12/16/25
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Crimson at-the-ready roast beef
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
flesh soul-stirring shitlib base
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
Aggressive Clear Lay Generalized Bond
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
wild light private investor
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
Aggressive Clear Lay Generalized Bond
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
hot vibrant library candlestick maker
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bateful brunch
  12/17/25
i love scholarship
indecent friendly grandma digit ratio
  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
tan bonkers office
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Aggressive Clear Lay Generalized Bond
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indecent friendly grandma digit ratio
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bateful brunch
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bateful brunch
  12/17/25
There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
geriatric dashing stage
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
blathering aromatic whorehouse
  12/16/25


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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: bateful brunch



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: Aggressive Clear Lay Generalized Bond

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: bateful brunch

18000

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: geriatric dashing stage

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: Aggressive Clear Lay Generalized Bond

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: geriatric dashing stage

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: Aggressive Clear Lay Generalized Bond

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2betting#49515534)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: geriatric dashing stage

Guns are muktzah.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: bateful brunch

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: Aggressive Clear Lay Generalized Bond

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: geriatric dashing stage

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: Aggressive Clear Lay Generalized Bond

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: geriatric dashing stage

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: bateful brunch



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: Aggressive Clear Lay Generalized Bond



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: Crimson at-the-ready roast beef

how do they get home?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: Aggressive Clear Lay Generalized Bond

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: Crimson at-the-ready roast beef



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: flesh soul-stirring shitlib base

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: Aggressive Clear Lay Generalized Bond

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: wild light private investor

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: Aggressive Clear Lay Generalized Bond

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2betting#49515722)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: hot vibrant library candlestick maker

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2betting#49515731)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: Aggressive Clear Lay Generalized Bond



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: bateful brunch



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: indecent friendly grandma digit ratio

i love scholarship

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: tan bonkers office

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: Aggressive Clear Lay Generalized Bond



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: indecent friendly grandma digit ratio



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: bateful brunch



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: bateful brunch



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: geriatric dashing stage

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: blathering aromatic whorehouse

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

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