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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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salmon talented site mother
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
Gay Slimy Property Internal Respiration
  12/16/25
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salmon talented site mother
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
Opaque space
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
Gay Slimy Property Internal Respiration
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
Opaque space
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
Gay Slimy Property Internal Respiration
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
Opaque space
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
salmon talented site mother
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
Gay Slimy Property Internal Respiration
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
Opaque space
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
Gay Slimy Property Internal Respiration
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
Opaque space
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salmon talented site mother
  12/17/25
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Gay Slimy Property Internal Respiration
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
Carnelian dashing chapel
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
Gay Slimy Property Internal Respiration
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Carnelian dashing chapel
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
Wine Locus
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
Gay Slimy Property Internal Respiration
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
haunting tanning salon incel
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
Gay Slimy Property Internal Respiration
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
galvanic sable hell
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Gay Slimy Property Internal Respiration
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salmon talented site mother
  12/17/25
i love scholarship
ocher demanding house
  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
High-end Pozpig
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Gay Slimy Property Internal Respiration
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ocher demanding house
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salmon talented site mother
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salmon talented site mother
  12/17/25
There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
Opaque space
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
Bat-shit-crazy abnormal therapy
  12/16/25


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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: salmon talented site mother



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: Gay Slimy Property Internal Respiration

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: salmon talented site mother

18000

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: Opaque space

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: Gay Slimy Property Internal Respiration

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Opaque space

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: Gay Slimy Property Internal Respiration

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: Opaque space

Guns are muktzah.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: salmon talented site mother

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: Gay Slimy Property Internal Respiration

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: Opaque space

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: Gay Slimy Property Internal Respiration

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: Opaque space

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: salmon talented site mother



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: Gay Slimy Property Internal Respiration



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: Carnelian dashing chapel

how do they get home?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: Gay Slimy Property Internal Respiration

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: Carnelian dashing chapel



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: Wine Locus

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: Gay Slimy Property Internal Respiration

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: haunting tanning salon incel

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: Gay Slimy Property Internal Respiration

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: galvanic sable hell

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: Gay Slimy Property Internal Respiration



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: salmon talented site mother



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: ocher demanding house

i love scholarship

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: High-end Pozpig

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: Gay Slimy Property Internal Respiration



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: ocher demanding house



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: salmon talented site mother



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: Opaque space

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: Bat-shit-crazy abnormal therapy

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

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