It could be interpreted as abstract, but also as a semi-realist depiction of nuclear carnage. No one who wasn’t there really Knows. You look at this image and somehow simultaneously don’t understand what is happening and fully comprehend what is being conveyed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5829100&forum_id=2betting#49635179)

The firebombings were “worse” they say. Yeah ok. The same people who defend using nuclear weapons would be the ones to sweep firebombings under the rug. But they bring them up when it’s convenient.

The whole country of Japan was basically like that one guy who was discovered in the 70s who thought the war was still going on. “Sure, champ.” And we were like “accept that you Lost, champ. Accept it.” Like what about letting them keep their empire and letting them rule over the Lower Azns? That would’ve worked better in hindsight imo. Imagine the Games we’d have.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5829100&forum_id=2betting#49635202)

You keep reaching for false equivalency because it feels strong. A sneak attack, therefore a city erased. An act of war, therefore annihilation. This is not argument. It is arithmetic done by someone who wants the sum to excuse the addends. Pearl Harbor was a military strike on a military target. It was brutal, criminal, and strategic. Hiroshima was something else entirely. To pretend they are the same category is to flatten thought until it fits inside a clenched fist.

You talk as if history runs on spite. As if war plans are written by men pounding tables instead of men hedging contingencies. Japan in mid 1945 was finished. Its navy broken. Its fuel gone. Its cities already burning. The blockade was strangling it. The Soviets were days away from entry. The internal debate was no longer about victory but about how to lose without total humiliation. This is not revisionism. This is the record.

The bomb was not dropped because no alternatives existed. It was dropped because it was available. Because it was new. Because it solved several problems at once on paper. It ended the war quickly, yes. It also announced a new order. One where force could be absolute and still be narrated as restraint. One where calculation could stand in for judgment.

Invoking Pearl Harbor to justify that leap is intellectually lazy. It collapses intent, scale, and target into one muddy gesture. By that logic, any atrocity can be retroactively sanctified if you rewind far enough to find a provocation. That is not moral clarity. That is a loop with no brakes. And dragging race into it is the tell. Once you start talking about who deserved to die rather than whether the act itself corrupted the world that used it, you have abandoned history for blood fantasy. Empires fall. Wars end. What lingers is precedent. The bomb taught the victorious that erasure could be framed as prudence. Everyone else learned to live under that lesson. Pearl Harbor explains anger. It does not explain vaporization.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5829100&forum_id=2betting#49635518)

You have to rely on EMOTIONS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5829100&forum_id=2betting#49635316)

they expected a million+ US casualties in a land invasion of Japan that would have dragged on until '48. the fighting on the Pacific islands was savage. Japs were animals.

many (white) people you know would never have been born had they not dropped the bomb.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5829100&forum_id=2betting#49635396)

Leahy = Irish

King = Scottish

Marshall = German/French

Arnold = British (Direct descendant of Benedict Arnold)

Nimitz = German

MacArthur = Scottish

You= clown

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5829100&forum_id=2betting#49635670)

Why would we not make them surrender

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5829100&forum_id=2betting#49635257)

You are analyzing this like Japan was a rational actor

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5829100&forum_id=2betting#49635318)

It was only when we decided to go in and "finish the job," based on nonsense WMD stories, that things turned all pear-shaped for us.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5829100&forum_id=2betting#49635995)

The bomb was theory made sovereign. Calculation preceding consequence. Certain Western philosophers warned that once the world is reduced to what can be measured, it becomes available for use. Certain Eastern thinkers, long before, suggested that the will to mastery is itself the delusion. Hiroshima was where these positions stopped being arguments and became weather.

Games emerge as a response to this knowledge. Not escapism, but containment. Nintendo’s worlds are clean to the point of austerity. Violence is symbolic, reversible, polite. Death becomes repetition rather than negation. The save file is not convenience but metaphysics. After irreversibility has shown its face, cultures grow suspicious of anything that cannot be undone.

Kojima refuses this comfort. His games are haunted by systems that believe themselves rational. Nuclear deterrence, feedback loops, control through information. You are allowed to act, but never allowed to forget that action binds you. This is where postwar Japanese memory meets Western guilt, filtered through a medium that knows it is complicit.

Even the present carries the residue. A new console arrives, powerful, pristine, and strangely empty. Switch 2 stands there with very little to say. Commentators call it a drought. It may be closer to a hesitation. After catastrophe, you do not rush to populate the world. You build the container first. You make sure the system can hold what is coming.

Gojira gave the bomb a body so it could be confronted. Games give the bomb a loop so it can be survived. Reset, retry, continue. A quiet refusal of finality. Japan learned, earlier than most, what happens when abstraction outruns human scale. Its games remain a long, disciplined answer to that lesson.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5829100&forum_id=2betting#49635431)

the japanese were just a prop for american power to inflict its threats to the soviets on

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5829100&forum_id=2betting#49635515)