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Two Cleveland Guardians pitchers charged in game rigging scandal

https://x.com/pablotorre/status/1987587583946142090?s=46
Opaque Center
  11/09/25
180
hairraiser indian lodge twinkling uncleanness
  11/09/25
they’ll get a permanent ban cr?
Opaque Center
  11/09/25
much more than that
hot stage telephone
  11/09/25
anal rape?
dun rough-skinned sanctuary
  11/09/25
But also some negative consequences
Big jet lettuce
  11/09/25
...
Olive rigpig
  11/09/25
Yes especially as they are random spics no one cares about.
hairraiser indian lodge twinkling uncleanness
  11/09/25
Can we not link to smug dipshit Pablo Torre?
Henna trip library roommate
  11/09/25
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Comical codepig
  11/09/25
why who is he?
Opaque Center
  11/09/25
Lol sup ballmer
dead giraffe institution
  11/09/25
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hairraiser indian lodge twinkling uncleanness
  11/09/25
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racy rigor locus
  11/09/25
cr he blows
garnet insane orchestra pit puppy
  11/09/25
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boyish business firm
  11/09/25
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boyish business firm
  11/09/25
Cleveland *Indians*
Beady-eyed mauve meetinghouse ratface
  11/09/25
indians, cleveland
Provocative Pit
  11/09/25
im shocked two guys Luis Leandro Ortiz and Emmanuel Clase de...
Abusive point
  11/09/25
Clase’s salary is $4.5 mil the other guy’s is $7...
Opaque Center
  11/09/25
i dunno but those beaners definitely werent also raping 12yo...
Abusive point
  11/09/25
is $4.5m a lot of money to you?
Coiffed splenetic idiot
  11/09/25
A year? Yeah.
ebony brunch
  11/09/25
why do wealthy people get caught committing white collar cri...
Duck-like Jade Chad Space
  11/09/25
the nba guy was pulling $25M a year. all the players involv...
Glittery Sepia Public Bath
  11/10/25
wait til tom berrenger gets ahold of them
Provocative Pit
  11/09/25
import the third world, become the third world
Coiffed splenetic idiot
  11/09/25
what retards, risking their careers for $5k
garnet insane orchestra pit puppy
  11/09/25
*destroying
Opaque Center
  11/09/25
How do you calculate $5k
hot stage telephone
  11/09/25
thats literally what they were paid to set it up https://...
garnet insane orchestra pit puppy
  11/09/25
That was just one pitch. From what I can tell there were 100...
hot stage telephone
  11/09/25
Clase had like $20m guaranteed on his contract and blew it u...
Wine histrionic plaza shitlib
  11/10/25
ESPN articles says they got hundreds of thousands of dollars...
Opaque Center
  11/09/25
Lmao hundreds of k's? The only way it'd be worth the risk of...
Blue Masturbator Persian
  11/09/25
How the scheme was caught • A betting-integrity firm ...
Opaque Center
  11/09/25
Jews maf
Coiffed splenetic idiot
  11/09/25
it seems pointless to do this on individual furking pitches ...
Abusive point
  11/09/25
probably less monitored than game outcomes and O/U
Opaque Center
  11/09/25
but im sure they use the computers, the computers can tell t...
Abusive point
  11/09/25
seems incredibly trivial to catch though. wow, how odd, tons...
garnet insane orchestra pit puppy
  11/09/25
what's the difference between betting on an individual pitch...
Duck-like Jade Chad Space
  11/09/25
Cr. And a single player can't throw a game without making it...
Blue Masturbator Persian
  11/09/25
Seems like the path to getting your opposing teams stars sus...
Cerebral geriatric preventive strike corner
  11/09/25
there was likely more corroborating evidence like cell/text ...
Opaque Center
  11/09/25
the reporting suggests that admin leave was the result solel...
Cerebral geriatric preventive strike corner
  11/09/25
i'm sure the large volume of bets being correct *and* the pi...
Duck-like Jade Chad Space
  11/09/25
solely? https://x.com/barstooltate/status/194084394481394...
Opaque Center
  11/09/25
here’s one of the pitches https://x.com/barstooltat...
Opaque Center
  11/09/25
lol
Cerebral geriatric preventive strike corner
  11/09/25
Too bad the ump was not colluding in the opposite direction
Orchid domesticated resort
  11/09/25
...
Coiffed splenetic idiot
  11/09/25
that is fucking hilarious.
brass lascivious headpube genital piercing
  11/09/25
was was the voiceover real or ai? did he really say "ju...
Provocative Pit
  11/09/25
its real, clearly a major league reference
garnet insane orchestra pit puppy
  11/09/25
anyone who bets on stupid shit like this deserves to be sepa...
Glittery Sepia Public Bath
  11/10/25
I'm pretty sure this is all a big nothing burger. It reminds...
Blue Masturbator Persian
  11/09/25
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Olive rigpig
  11/09/25
lol https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1987600564474253749...
Opaque Center
  11/10/25
...
Coiffed splenetic idiot
  11/10/25
could make a good XO $2M hypo -- where is Nazca Redlines. ...
Spectacular stock car lodge
  11/10/25
lol
diverse purple step-uncle's house
  11/10/25
Lmao
Wine histrionic plaza shitlib
  11/10/25


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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:23 PM
Author: Opaque Center

https://x.com/pablotorre/status/1987587583946142090?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2betting#49414444)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:25 PM
Author: hairraiser indian lodge twinkling uncleanness

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2betting#49414449)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:28 PM
Author: Opaque Center

they’ll get a permanent ban cr?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2betting#49414453)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:32 PM
Author: hot stage telephone

much more than that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2betting#49414460)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:43 PM
Author: dun rough-skinned sanctuary

anal rape?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2betting#49414492)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:58 PM
Author: Big jet lettuce

But also some negative consequences

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2betting#49414697)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:11 PM
Author: Olive rigpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2betting#49415169)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:05 PM
Author: hairraiser indian lodge twinkling uncleanness

Yes especially as they are random spics no one cares about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2betting#49414544)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:30 PM
Author: Henna trip library roommate

Can we not link to smug dipshit Pablo Torre?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2betting#49414455)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:33 PM
Author: Comical codepig



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:40 PM
Author: Opaque Center

why who is he?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2betting#49414484)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:59 PM
Author: dead giraffe institution

Lol sup ballmer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2betting#49414534)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:06 PM
Author: hairraiser indian lodge twinkling uncleanness



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2betting#49414547)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:24 PM
Author: racy rigor locus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2betting#49414879)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:59 PM
Author: garnet insane orchestra pit puppy

cr he blows

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2betting#49414535)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:18 PM
Author: boyish business firm



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:18 PM
Author: boyish business firm



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:31 PM
Author: Beady-eyed mauve meetinghouse ratface

Cleveland *Indians*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2betting#49414457)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:34 PM
Author: Provocative Pit

indians, cleveland

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2betting#49414465)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:31 PM
Author: Abusive point

im shocked two guys Luis Leandro Ortiz and Emmanuel Clase de la Cruz werent upstanding individuals but tbf jews do this type of shit all the time in every industry and never get arrested

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2betting#49414458)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:41 PM
Author: Opaque Center

Clase’s salary is $4.5 mil the other guy’s is $782k

Why would they do this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2betting#49414486)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:42 PM
Author: Abusive point

i dunno but those beaners definitely werent also raping 12yo girls, beaners arent like that man. definitely no reason for kash to look at their laptops for pedo porn. no way man, latinos are catholic

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2betting#49414489)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:48 PM
Author: Coiffed splenetic idiot

is $4.5m a lot of money to you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2betting#49414508)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 9:54 PM
Author: ebony brunch

A year? Yeah.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2betting#49415460)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:10 PM
Author: Duck-like Jade Chad Space

why do wealthy people get caught committing white collar crime all the time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2betting#49414850)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 9:42 AM
Author: Glittery Sepia Public Bath

the nba guy was pulling $25M a year. all the players involved don't seem very bright.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2betting#49416613)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:34 PM
Author: Provocative Pit

wait til tom berrenger gets ahold of them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2betting#49414464)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:35 PM
Author: Coiffed splenetic idiot

import the third world, become the third world

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2betting#49414466)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:42 PM
Author: garnet insane orchestra pit puppy

what retards, risking their careers for $5k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2betting#49414488)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:43 PM
Author: Opaque Center

*destroying

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2betting#49414493)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:46 PM
Author: hot stage telephone

How do you calculate $5k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2betting#49414500)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:49 PM
Author: garnet insane orchestra pit puppy

thats literally what they were paid to set it up

https://x.com/JeffPassan/status/1987590315918954834

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2betting#49414514)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:50 PM
Author: hot stage telephone

That was just one pitch. From what I can tell there were 100 or more individual bets/pitches

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2betting#49414517)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 11:01 AM
Author: Wine histrionic plaza shitlib

Clase had like $20m guaranteed on his contract and blew it up over like $10k total what a fucking retard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2betting#49416778)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:52 PM
Author: Opaque Center

ESPN articles says they got hundreds of thousands of dollars in kickbacks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2betting#49414522)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:42 PM
Author: Blue Masturbator Persian

Lmao hundreds of k's? The only way it'd be worth the risk of their career, jail time, and public disgrace is if they were paid tens of millions. For the guy making $4.5M, maybe even hundreds of millions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2betting#49415108)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:44 PM
Author: Opaque Center

How the scheme was caught

• A betting-integrity firm flagged unusual betting activity: in particular, two specific pitches thrown by Ortiz (on June 15 and June 27, 2025) were subject to a much higher volume of bets than normal.

• The activity was forwarded to Major League Baseball (MLB), which placed Ortiz on paid administrative leave while investigating.

• Subsequently, Clase (the closer) was also placed on non-disciplinary paid leave amid the investigation.

• On November 9, 2025, both players were indicted by federal prosecutors on charges including wire fraud conspiracy, bribery, money-laundering conspiracy, and conspiracy to influence sporting contests by bribery.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2betting#49414497)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:47 PM
Author: Coiffed splenetic idiot

Jews maf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2betting#49414506)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:48 PM
Author: Abusive point

it seems pointless to do this on individual furking pitches wtf is this shit, r these furks really that stupid

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2betting#49414512)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:52 PM
Author: Opaque Center

probably less monitored than game outcomes and O/U

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2betting#49414523)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:55 PM
Author: Abusive point

but im sure they use the computers, the computers can tell them unusual stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2betting#49414526)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:58 PM
Author: garnet insane orchestra pit puppy

seems incredibly trivial to catch though. wow, how odd, tons of money is coming in on clase's first pitch of the inning, we should check that out

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2betting#49414532)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: Duck-like Jade Chad Space

what's the difference between betting on an individual pitch and betting on the outcome of the game?

it's like betting on the color of the gatorade at the superbowl. the whole point in colluding on something like this is that the colluders aren't significantly impacting the entire game. it's not like this is the black sox.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2betting#49414858)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:45 PM
Author: Blue Masturbator Persian

Cr. And a single player can't throw a game without making it obvious. But a pitch is well within their control.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2betting#49415115)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:53 PM
Author: Cerebral geriatric preventive strike corner

Seems like the path to getting your opposing teams stars suspended. Have a big group place bets on specific pitches all at once and all the same way. Player gets put on 'administrative leave' while Comissioners office investigates.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2betting#49414687)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 4:00 PM
Author: Opaque Center

there was likely more corroborating evidence like cell/text records

also they’d have to throw they same pitches you placed huge bets on

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2betting#49414701)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 4:24 PM
Author: Cerebral geriatric preventive strike corner

the reporting suggests that admin leave was the result solely of the large bets. the corroboration came later sounds like which resulted in the indictment.

no you wouldnt need them to throw the same pitches. you'd just need a lot of ppl betting that a certain pitch would be thrown. if he doesn't throw that pitch, oh well he wasn't able to do it for some other reason.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2betting#49414740)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:29 PM
Author: Duck-like Jade Chad Space

i'm sure the large volume of bets being correct *and* the pitches being extremely poor factored in. at best something like that would trigger in investigation but i don't think anyone's getting put on leave because of irregular betting alone. especially not a star pitcher.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2betting#49414895)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:33 PM
Author: Opaque Center

solely?

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1940843944813949425?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2betting#49414899)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:07 PM
Author: Opaque Center

here’s one of the pitches

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1940843944813949425?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2betting#49414840)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:09 PM
Author: Cerebral geriatric preventive strike corner

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2betting#49414847)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:22 PM
Author: Orchid domesticated resort

Too bad the ump was not colluding in the opposite direction

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2betting#49414868)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 6:15 PM
Author: Coiffed splenetic idiot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2betting#49414950)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 6:22 PM
Author: brass lascivious headpube genital piercing

that is fucking hilarious.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2betting#49414960)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:05 PM
Author: Provocative Pit

was was the voiceover real or ai? did he really say "just a little bit outside" or did someone add that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2betting#49415148)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:10 PM
Author: garnet insane orchestra pit puppy

its real, clearly a major league reference

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2betting#49415167)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 7:34 AM
Author: Glittery Sepia Public Bath

anyone who bets on stupid shit like this deserves to be separated from their $. Also these beaners should be banned and deported.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2betting#49416384)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:55 PM
Author: Blue Masturbator Persian

I'm pretty sure this is all a big nothing burger. It reminds me of the time airline stocks were massively shorted on September 10, 2001. Turns out it was just a big coincidence haha. Same here imo haha.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2betting#49415127)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:11 PM
Author: Olive rigpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2betting#49415170)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 12:00 AM
Author: Opaque Center

lol

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1987600564474253749?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2betting#49415981)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 12:20 AM
Author: Coiffed splenetic idiot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2betting#49416110)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 9:50 AM
Author: Spectacular stock car lodge

could make a good XO $2M hypo -- where is Nazca Redlines.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2betting#49416629)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 10:01 AM
Author: diverse purple step-uncle's house

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2betting#49416653)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 11:00 AM
Author: Wine histrionic plaza shitlib

Lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2betting#49416774)