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Question about European feudalism.

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have m...
topaz glittery potus
  06/14/13
just walk outside bro
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  05/29/25
(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)
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Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as ba...
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really depended on the country, the region, and the lord re...
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  07/16/25
It worked out really well for most folks. Asia had similar s...
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  11/11/25
it was a nanny state.
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  11/24/25
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  12/08/25
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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM
Author: topaz glittery potus

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2betting#23393887)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM
Author: kink-friendly orchid trust fund

just walk outside bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2betting#48969812)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM
Author: kink-friendly orchid trust fund

(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2betting#48969813)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM
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Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM
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Date: July 3rd, 2025 8:14 PM
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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:52 PM
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Date: December 29th, 2025 9:19 PM
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Date: January 4th, 2026 8:56 PM
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Date: January 6th, 2026 7:39 PM
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Date: January 12th, 2026 6:44 PM
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Date: January 14th, 2026 6:47 PM
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Date: January 20th, 2026 7:47 PM
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM
Author: Shimmering goal in life parlour

Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence?

yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2betting#48969854)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM
Author: Amethyst Property

Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2betting#48969860)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM
Author: Shimmering goal in life parlour

(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2betting#48969863)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM
Author: Amethyst Property

They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2betting#48969954)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM
Author: Shimmering goal in life parlour

read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2betting#48971066)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: Beady-eyed drab church faggot firefighter

Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2betting#49065184)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:53 PM
Author: Laughsome Doobsian Private Investor



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Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM
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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM
Author: aqua faggotry

what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2betting#48970037)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM
Author: Lilac Pozpig Bawdyhouse

cq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2betting#48970041)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM
Author: flatulent station gay wizard

I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2betting#48985033)



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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM
Author: Beady-eyed drab church faggot firefighter

teen black death survivors were the original Boomers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2betting#49065206)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 4:10 AM
Author: iridescent vivacious kitchen fat ankles



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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM
Author: Cowardly menage pistol

i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2betting#48997602)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM
Author: Walnut set

Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2betting#49065026)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM
Author: Vigorous Pit

really depended on the country, the region, and the lord

removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2betting#49105022)



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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:49 PM
Author: Puce karate hunting ground

It worked out really well for most folks. Asia had similar systems in place for thousands of years and they were stable societies

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2betting#49421865)



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Date: November 24th, 2025 10:06 PM
Author: frozen big-titted degenerate trailer park

it was a nanny state.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2betting#49458174)



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Date: December 8th, 2025 8:26 PM
Author: Puce karate hunting ground

Most societies were nomadic. Home sapiens only became a settled species during the most recent 5% of our time on earth. There's absolutely nothing normal (or even good) about anything we do today, unless your goal is simply to put more people on the earth's surface

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2betting#49495273)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:07 AM
Author: Vigorous Pit

actual feudalism was probably fine and shitty in parts

foursquare feudalism otoh is a lot of fun and harmless if it's not infested with faggots

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2betting#49518563)