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Date: November 3rd, 2012 5:23 PM Author: Aphrodisiac Old Irish Cottage Internal Respiration Clerked for a year, started biglaw in september. i've never been so miserable in my life. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2101159&forum_id=2#21954394) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2012 5:24 PM Author: High-end School Cafeteria What are you disliking most (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2101159&forum_id=2#21954400) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2012 5:25 PM Author: Aphrodisiac Old Irish Cottage Internal Respiration the partners treat us like crap. the inconsistency in the hours - some days there is nothing to do, other days i am there for 20 hours. and the work is fucking boring. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2101159&forum_id=2#21954420) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2012 5:24 PM Author: Soul-stirring generalized bond what sucks about it.
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Date: November 3rd, 2012 5:24 PM Author: mind-boggling chapel pocket flask DESCRIBE a typical day of your in excruciating detail plz. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2101159&forum_id=2#21954406) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2012 5:28 PM Author: Aphrodisiac Old Irish Cottage Internal Respiration there isn't a typical day. some days i get in at 9, surf the net for a few hours, work on a memo for a few hours, surf the net some more. on other days, i get in at 9 and am slammed until midnight. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2101159&forum_id=2#21954438) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2012 10:20 PM Author: Nudist flesh field legend I'm happier on slammed days than on non-slammed days, unless I made the mistake of making plans to do something other than work (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2101159&forum_id=2#21956509) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2012 5:25 PM Author: heady onyx senate striped hyena i was a clerk too and found the transition difficult. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2101159&forum_id=2#21954409) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2012 5:26 PM Author: Aphrodisiac Old Irish Cottage Internal Respiration did you adjust? how long did it take? any tips? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2101159&forum_id=2#21954427) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2012 5:28 PM Author: heady onyx senate striped hyena no i never really adjusted that well. you gotta realize that being aspie, academic brainy egghead hurts you, that 99% of the job is about appearances and typos, and that ur legal briefs and writing need to be very basic and simple. dont get clever, partners hate it. pay attention to deadlines. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2101159&forum_id=2#21954440) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2012 5:30 PM Author: Aphrodisiac Old Irish Cottage Internal Respiration good tips. are you still in biglaw? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2101159&forum_id=2#21954449) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2012 5:33 PM Author: heady onyx senate striped hyena yeah i lateraled from a very prestigious firm to a very unprestigious firm. it made a big difference but I'd stick it out at the better ranked firm for another year or two if I could do it over again. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2101159&forum_id=2#21954457) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2012 5:50 PM Author: alcoholic bateful mad-dog skullcap wat's the big difference? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2101159&forum_id=2#21954556) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2012 5:56 PM Author: heady onyx senate striped hyena lower expectations for quality of work, lower hours (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2101159&forum_id=2#21954591) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2012 5:25 PM Author: Ruddy swashbuckling area main people What aspects of Biglaw are most detestable to you? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2101159&forum_id=2#21954414) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2012 5:27 PM Author: Aphrodisiac Old Irish Cottage Internal Respiration the focus on billing. it's all that anyone cares about and it sucks (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2101159&forum_id=2#21954431) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2012 9:11 PM Author: Mildly autistic electric base that and DONT MAKE ANY TYPOS (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2101159&forum_id=2#21956056) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2012 10:36 PM Author: indigo sanctuary also, if they ask you to compare doc A against doc B, you better not miss anything, or shit will hit the ceiling and the world will end. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2101159&forum_id=2#21956617) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2012 9:58 PM Author: Chrome school filthpig Ok but billables is how they make money. Obviously if these guys are going to have a house in Scarsdale and a vacation home in a prestigious place, they need to be making a shitload of money year in year out. So if you work for a top firm, they're going to find as many billable hours as they can for you while you're there. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2101159&forum_id=2#21956384) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2012 7:47 PM Author: Arrogant Lay It's actually not so bad. Suck it up, pussy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2101159&forum_id=2#21955390) |
Date: November 3rd, 2012 5:27 PM Author: violet ape guess what? all corporate jobs suck. deal with it, go the public sector, or become a monk. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2101159&forum_id=2#21954432) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2012 5:28 PM Author: Aphrodisiac Old Irish Cottage Internal Respiration i was an engineer for three years before law school and it wasn't nearly as bad. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2101159&forum_id=2#21954443) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2012 5:37 PM Author: Rusted sandwich indian lodge and you were paid sccordingly (1/3 of what you make now). you can always go back to that, no one is forcing you to stick sround (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2101159&forum_id=2#21954473) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2012 5:41 PM Author: Aphrodisiac Old Irish Cottage Internal Respiration i actually enjoy law. i just hate the billing/biglaw model. goal is to get a year or two of experience and go to government or in-house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2101159&forum_id=2#21954496) |
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Date: November 4th, 2012 5:09 AM Author: iridescent comical cruise ship What kind of in-house gig do you expect to get with one or two years of experience? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2101159&forum_id=2#21958453) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2012 5:36 PM Author: Spectacular famous landscape painting feces they don't all suck to the same degree. the billable hour is what makes law particularly shitty, although most people would find the subject matter equally repulsive (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2101159&forum_id=2#21954466) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2012 5:51 PM Author: violet ape nah, law is pretty interesting stuff. I'm not sure what else you think would be "interesting" subject matter at high-levels of corporate america. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2101159&forum_id=2#21954568) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2012 7:55 PM Author: Spectacular famous landscape painting feces of the, say, 250 people i know practicing biglaw, i would say around 5 of them find the subject matter interesting. and none of these 5 are people you would want to hang out with. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2101159&forum_id=2#21955467) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2012 7:57 PM Author: mewling parlor those 5 will become partners (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2101159&forum_id=2#21955489) |
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Date: November 25th, 2014 7:14 PM Author: grizzly charismatic meetinghouse knife (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2101159&forum_id=2#26799433) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2012 9:18 PM Author: Self-centered bbw cumskin Not true at all in the context of working in biglaw. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2101159&forum_id=2#21956103) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2012 9:17 PM Author: Self-centered bbw cumskin Nope. Biglaw sucks more. Sorry. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2101159&forum_id=2#21956099) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2012 5:41 PM Author: Peach Hominid Affirmative Action i went biglaw -> plaintiffs' firm. was so miserable in biglaw life wasn't even worth living. it's like night and day bro now. law isn't bad at all when you have freedom to take your time on stuff and not think about all work in terms of how many hours you can bill. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2101159&forum_id=2#21954498) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2012 5:50 PM Author: Aphrodisiac Old Irish Cottage Internal Respiration was it a big pay cut? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2101159&forum_id=2#21954563) |
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Date: November 4th, 2012 9:13 AM Author: multi-colored ivory rehab background story This is relevant to my interests. What kind of plaintiffs' firm? Don't you still have to keep your hours ? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2101159&forum_id=2#21958600) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2012 6:56 PM Author: sick hospital same situation here. totally miserable. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2101159&forum_id=2#21954990) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2012 6:57 PM Author: excitant mustard nowag degenerate life sucks (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2101159&forum_id=2#21954998) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2012 7:51 PM Author: indigo sanctuary been in biglaw 2.5 years, life has never been so shitty. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2101159&forum_id=2#21955430) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2012 7:53 PM Author: Free-loading dysfunction This is correct. Definitive low point for most people. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2101159&forum_id=2#21955451) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2012 7:58 PM Author: indigo sanctuary that's interesting. didn't not know 2.5 yr is the definitive low point for most. more analysis please (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2101159&forum_id=2#21955493) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2012 8:03 PM Author: Free-loading dysfunction Oh I just meant biglaw in general. 2.5 years isn't the low point. It just keeps getting worse. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2101159&forum_id=2#21955529) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2012 7:56 PM Author: mewling parlor do you guys constantly type your hours into an excel spreadsheet? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2101159&forum_id=2#21955471) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2012 7:57 PM Author: indigo sanctuary no, there's an app for that
most young associates do it themselves, some use secretaries |
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Date: November 3rd, 2012 8:01 PM Author: mewling parlor whats the bigdeal just set time aside everyday to do it |
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Date: November 3rd, 2012 10:01 PM Author: Chrome school filthpig If you're questioning why billables are shitty, it's not the time entry itself. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2101159&forum_id=2#21956394) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2012 8:00 PM Author: Aggressive friendly grandma principal's office boo fucking hoo. you knew what you signed up for. some of us didn't get the option just because we graduated at the wrong time. don't come fucking whining to me that your loans can be paid off in a handful of years. go fuck yourself. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2101159&forum_id=2#21955507) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2012 9:09 PM Author: Territorial bawdyhouse LOL (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2101159&forum_id=2#21956036) |
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Date: March 27th, 2014 8:25 AM Author: Nudist flesh field legend I can see it in your eyes . . . (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2101159&forum_id=2#25269834) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2012 9:12 PM Author: Tantric Clear Twinkling Uncleanness Stag Film Move to a better firm. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2101159&forum_id=2#21956063) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2012 9:19 PM Author: Mildly autistic electric base i daily want to kill self. i feel like the dog who caught the car. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2101159&forum_id=2#21956110) |
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Date: November 4th, 2012 9:03 AM Author: Aphrodisiac Old Irish Cottage Internal Respiration exactly how i feel. i worked so hard in law school to secure a biglaw offer. now i feel like it's a death sentence. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2101159&forum_id=2#21958585) |
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Date: November 4th, 2012 9:32 AM Author: indigo sanctuary biglaw ain't a death sentence bro, assuming you ain't an idiot (pay down debt/save diligently, no lifestyle inflation, etc) you should have a nice equity cushion and a marketable resume in a few years. Make the jump to nicer ship (fed/state gov, inhouse, open a bakery) and you are golden. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2101159&forum_id=2#21958638) |
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Date: November 4th, 2012 9:33 AM Author: Free-loading dysfunction bakery is credited. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2101159&forum_id=2#21958639) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2012 10:23 PM Author: Black home depressive Firm level and city can be huge factors in how much it sucks. IME top firm was way more unpleasant than say v50 in terms of atmosphere (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2101159&forum_id=2#21956527) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2012 10:37 PM Author: indigo sanctuary V50 can still be pretty shitty. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2101159&forum_id=2#21956624) |
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Date: November 4th, 2012 4:25 AM Author: Bossy den not biglaw but i feel like law has consumed my life and there is very little else in it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2101159&forum_id=2#21958400) |
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Date: March 26th, 2014 11:53 PM Author: blathering theater start own firm or get out of law completely. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2101159&forum_id=2#25268691) |
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Date: November 25th, 2014 7:20 PM Author: gold razzle stage turdskin i actually don't mind biglaw. working for decent people goes a long way for this. yea the hours are long and the work is boring. but you know what your getting yourself into and for most people there is a finite timeline. keep your eyes on that finish line (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2101159&forum_id=2#26799467) |