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fshek  08/21/05
I thought it was the standard for everythign?
Melanie Wilkes  08/21/05
Apparently, it isn't. In fact, I see one space most places.
fshek  08/21/05
I always use two because that's what we were taught in typin...
Melanie Wilkes  08/21/05
This is what I thought.
Regular Guy.  08/22/05
Depends on the professor/partner. I always use 2, unless to...
......,.........,...........  08/21/05
Everywhere? Or just for legal writing?
fshek  08/21/05
Yes. Formal papers
Mrs. Earl Riche  08/21/05
I'm sorry. Are you using a TYPEWRITER? Didn't think so.
Cruella De Vil  08/21/05
It seems like the correct way should either be two spaces or...
sealclubber  08/21/05
wtf are you talking about?
Turd Blossom  08/21/05
my head just exploded.
Luke_Schenscher_has_a_posse  08/21/05
Is there a BLUEBOOK or ALWD rule on this? Anyone know?
Enron  08/21/05
No bluebook or ALWD as far as I know. also never seen court...
Figure2-2  08/21/05
Most legal writing classes encourage using a style manual al...
pampersis  08/21/05
This is wrong. The most commonly used style manual in legal...
rk982  08/22/05
1 is, per the BB and the CMS.
h4ck3d 4cc0unt  08/21/05
Where in the BB? I assume BB = Bluebook.
fshek  08/21/05
Yea.
h4ck3d 4cc0unt  08/21/05
On EVERY PAGE of the BB. Seriously. Open it. Look for a...
rk982  08/22/05
Why would you use two spaces? Every word processing program ...
zxcvbnm  08/21/05
2 spaces is not unheard of.
replevin  08/21/05
I've seen people use it and it always looks terrible. It's a...
zxcvbnm  08/21/05
Okay, in my job, at a big NYC bank, when we wrote up contrac...
Melanie Wilkes  08/21/05
I'm sure there are times where a period doesn't indicate the...
sealclubber  08/21/05
kill youself for asking this.
ok  08/21/05
I decline to. But if I were you, I would definitely off mys...
fshek  08/21/05
Word gives you a little green squiggle if you don't use two ...
Innocent Stationary Bike  08/21/05
No, it only does that if you have it set to require two spac...
shiveringjenny  08/21/05
I didn't set my Word that way, and it requires two spaces.
Melanie Wilkes  08/21/05
It may not come standard, but you can set it to require one ...
shiveringjenny  08/21/05
Its the default.
Innocent Stationary Bike  08/21/05
Yeah, but that doesn't mean it's mandatory. If you fiddle wi...
shiveringjenny  08/21/05
Your comment made me laugh. That would be funny if MSWord m...
vincec  08/21/05
Yeah, but I took the original post on this subject to be an ...
shiveringjenny  08/21/05
No, no, I didn't mean you did anything wrong. I agreed with...
vincec  08/21/05
Okay, I misinterpreted your post.
shiveringjenny  08/21/05
Why are you shivering?
vincec  08/21/05
It's set that way be default. Indeed, it only *doesn't* do ...
pampersis  08/21/05
That is a holdover from when people first switched to word p...
vincec  08/21/05
Two spaces after the period has always been standard and is ...
Pedicabo Vos  08/21/05
agreed.
vincec  08/21/05
I'm used to it, so I still do it. If I had to, it'd be a lo...
Hazelrah  08/21/05
I'm surprised so many people seem to adhere to this outdated...
zxcvbnm  08/21/05
Um, HTML displays multiple spaces as just one space. In fac...
Hazelrah  08/21/05
it's not possible to use 2 spaces on here, so you wouldn't n...
...../....\...\/....../.....\....  08/21/05
Classic thread on this topic: http://www.xoxohth.com/thre...
lsatdude  08/21/05
What the fuck so there is no standard?
Enron  08/21/05
nope. Old school texts even have like 5 spaces sometimes. ...
Luke_Schenscher_has_a_posse  08/21/05
My menu at Ruth's Chris had at least four spaces between sen...
vincec  08/21/05
Do the 2 spaces in between my two front teeth count?
Enron  08/21/05
I have this old version of Don Quixote from like the 40's. ...
Luke_Schenscher_has_a_posse  08/21/05
Does any one use the MLA Handbook for Writers of Research Pa...
Mrs. Earl Riche  08/21/05
Not I.
Enron  08/21/05
Apparently, neither do you use a grammar book.
gridlocker  08/21/05
Apparently, you do not use grammar books either. tootles.
Nigger  08/21/05
That's true; I don't. But my sentence looks all right to ...
gridlocker  08/21/05
Your sentence was worse than his.
Nigger  08/21/05
My sentence looks all right to me.
gridlocker  08/21/05
Keep telling yourself that until you believe it.
Nigger  08/22/05
I believe it.
gridlocker  08/22/05
I read in some prominent place (perhaps the Chicago Manual o...
galois  08/22/05
It's pretty clear that most print and electronic media use a...
gridlocker  08/22/05
The Michigan Law Review only uses one space.
Fiver  08/22/05
Almost all good law reviews use only one space. This is bec...
rk982  08/22/05
I thought you clerked in CA. It's 5AM there.
I am thinking of aurochs and angels  08/22/05
wow, it's been hammered into my head for at least 10 years
Nacho  08/22/05


Poast new message in this thread




Date: August 21st, 2005 6:39 PM
Author: fshek



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244569&forum_id=2#3647324)




Date: August 21st, 2005 6:40 PM
Author: Melanie Wilkes

I thought it was the standard for everythign?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244569&forum_id=2#3647329)




Date: August 21st, 2005 6:41 PM
Author: fshek

Apparently, it isn't. In fact, I see one space most places.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244569&forum_id=2#3647345)




Date: August 21st, 2005 6:44 PM
Author: Melanie Wilkes

I always use two because that's what we were taught in typing class. One space after comma, two after period. I assumed it was like this for all types of formal writing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244569&forum_id=2#3647372)




Date: August 22nd, 2005 5:18 AM
Author: Regular Guy. (builder of forts, admirer of Andre the Giant and snowboard god)

This is what I thought.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244569&forum_id=2#3650913)




Date: August 21st, 2005 6:40 PM
Author: ......,.........,...........

Depends on the professor/partner. I always use 2, unless told otherwise.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244569&forum_id=2#3647333)




Date: August 21st, 2005 6:41 PM
Author: fshek

Everywhere? Or just for legal writing?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244569&forum_id=2#3647346)




Date: August 21st, 2005 10:14 PM
Author: Mrs. Earl Riche (What's this about, Eugene?)

Yes. Formal papers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244569&forum_id=2#3648729)




Date: August 21st, 2005 6:42 PM
Author: Cruella De Vil ("I was cynical in high school." )

I'm sorry. Are you using a TYPEWRITER? Didn't think so.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244569&forum_id=2#3647353)




Date: August 21st, 2005 6:51 PM
Author: sealclubber

It seems like the correct way should either be two spaces or either one or two spaces, but not one space.

Too many people have two spaces ingrained.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244569&forum_id=2#3647408)




Date: August 21st, 2005 9:13 PM
Author: Turd Blossom

wtf are you talking about?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244569&forum_id=2#3648277)




Date: August 21st, 2005 9:17 PM
Author: Luke_Schenscher_has_a_posse (Ignorant of the facts and the Lord's Word)

my head just exploded.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244569&forum_id=2#3648301)




Date: August 21st, 2005 6:53 PM
Author: Enron

Is there a BLUEBOOK or ALWD rule on this? Anyone know?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244569&forum_id=2#3647420)




Date: August 21st, 2005 7:10 PM
Author: Figure2-2

No bluebook or ALWD as far as I know. also never seen court rules that say one or two. two is fine for everything, including legal writing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244569&forum_id=2#3647488)




Date: August 21st, 2005 9:54 PM
Author: pampersis

Most legal writing classes encourage using a style manual along with the Bluebook. As far as I know, all the style manuals say two spaces after a period.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244569&forum_id=2#3648570)




Date: August 22nd, 2005 7:53 AM
Author: rk982 (it's never legal advice)

This is wrong. The most commonly used style manual in legal writing is the Chicago Manual. While it doesn't have a rule one way or the other, the CMOS uses one space after a period, which suggests that you should too. Oh, and the Bluebook does too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244569&forum_id=2#3650973)




Date: August 21st, 2005 7:53 PM
Author: h4ck3d 4cc0unt (Scalia@gmail.com)

1 is, per the BB and the CMS.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244569&forum_id=2#3647746)




Date: August 21st, 2005 7:54 PM
Author: fshek

Where in the BB? I assume BB = Bluebook.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244569&forum_id=2#3647756)




Date: August 21st, 2005 7:57 PM
Author: h4ck3d 4cc0unt (Scalia@gmail.com)

Yea.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244569&forum_id=2#3647771)




Date: August 22nd, 2005 7:54 AM
Author: rk982 (it's never legal advice)

On EVERY PAGE of the BB.

Seriously. Open it. Look for a period. See how many spaces are after the period. There's your answer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244569&forum_id=2#3650974)




Date: August 21st, 2005 8:21 PM
Author: zxcvbnm

Why would you use two spaces? Every word processing program from the last 20 years has intelligent spacing built-in. Hit the spacebar one, unless you're using a typewriter or you've been asked specifically to make the document look like strange.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244569&forum_id=2#3647925)




Date: August 21st, 2005 8:23 PM
Author: replevin

2 spaces is not unheard of.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244569&forum_id=2#3647934)




Date: August 21st, 2005 8:25 PM
Author: zxcvbnm

I've seen people use it and it always looks terrible. It's a holdover from the typewriter days -- some people don't realize it's not necessary on computer word processors.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244569&forum_id=2#3647944)




Date: August 21st, 2005 8:25 PM
Author: Melanie Wilkes

Okay, in my job, at a big NYC bank, when we wrote up contracts for our clients, I KNOW we used 2 spaces.

I didn't know people didn't use 2 spaces. As I said above, this is what we were specifically taught in typing class (on a computer, not a typewriter).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244569&forum_id=2#3647946)




Date: August 21st, 2005 9:12 PM
Author: sealclubber

I'm sure there are times where a period doesn't indicate the end of a sentence and two spaces would get rid of that ambiguity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244569&forum_id=2#3648267)




Date: August 21st, 2005 9:17 PM
Author: ok

kill youself for asking this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244569&forum_id=2#3648294)




Date: August 21st, 2005 9:23 PM
Author: fshek

I decline to. But if I were you, I would definitely off myself.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244569&forum_id=2#3648349)




Date: August 21st, 2005 9:27 PM
Author: Innocent Stationary Bike

Word gives you a little green squiggle if you don't use two spaces.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244569&forum_id=2#3648383)




Date: August 21st, 2005 9:39 PM
Author: shiveringjenny (I, Garland, will knock you all down!!!)

No, it only does that if you have it set to require two spaces.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244569&forum_id=2#3648450)




Date: August 21st, 2005 9:40 PM
Author: Melanie Wilkes

I didn't set my Word that way, and it requires two spaces.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244569&forum_id=2#3648458)




Date: August 21st, 2005 9:41 PM
Author: shiveringjenny (I, Garland, will knock you all down!!!)

It may not come standard, but you can set it to require one space and it will give you a green squiggle if there are two.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244569&forum_id=2#3648471)




Date: August 21st, 2005 9:41 PM
Author: Innocent Stationary Bike

Its the default.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244569&forum_id=2#3648470)




Date: August 21st, 2005 9:43 PM
Author: shiveringjenny (I, Garland, will knock you all down!!!)

Yeah, but that doesn't mean it's mandatory. If you fiddle with the settings, it asks specifically if you want one space or two. I have it set for one.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244569&forum_id=2#3648486)




Date: August 21st, 2005 9:47 PM
Author: vincec (vincenteceballos@gmail.com)

Your comment made me laugh. That would be funny if MSWord mandated things like this. "If you want to use our program you must always use two spaces after a period and you must never begin a sentence with but or because."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244569&forum_id=2#3648521)




Date: August 21st, 2005 9:49 PM
Author: shiveringjenny (I, Garland, will knock you all down!!!)

Yeah, but I took the original post on this subject to be an argument for two spaces after periods. I'm just saying that you can easily set the program to do something else, so it proves nothing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244569&forum_id=2#3648534)




Date: August 21st, 2005 9:51 PM
Author: vincec (vincenteceballos@gmail.com)

No, no, I didn't mean you did anything wrong. I agreed with your post. I just thought it raised a very funny point and I thought maybe you had done it on purpose.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244569&forum_id=2#3648543)




Date: August 21st, 2005 9:53 PM
Author: shiveringjenny (I, Garland, will knock you all down!!!)

Okay, I misinterpreted your post.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244569&forum_id=2#3648562)




Date: August 21st, 2005 9:53 PM
Author: vincec (vincenteceballos@gmail.com)

Why are you shivering?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244569&forum_id=2#3648564)




Date: August 21st, 2005 9:55 PM
Author: pampersis

It's set that way be default. Indeed, it only *doesn't* do that if you change the settings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244569&forum_id=2#3648578)




Date: August 21st, 2005 9:41 PM
Author: vincec (vincenteceballos@gmail.com)

That is a holdover from when people first switched to word processing software. People were too confused by the apparently sudden need to only space once. You can fix it in your spelling & grammar options, the same place you can choose whether to have a comma before the and in a list (i.e. a bat, a ball, and a glove). I found out about this earlier in the summer and after researching it online, one space appears to be the rule for all normal documents unless, of course, you are actually typing them on a typewriter. As for the contracts at the NYC bank, contracts are sometimes different from normal documents. On the other hand, there is an element of preference. Some people always use full-justified and some people always use left-justified, which is correct?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244569&forum_id=2#3648474)




Date: August 21st, 2005 9:42 PM
Author: Pedicabo Vos

Two spaces after the period has always been standard and is standard for legal writing. HOWEVER, all word processing programs make the space slightly larger after a period, which was intended to eliminate the need to add an extra space. HOWEVER, people were so used to adding two spaces that the practice is still common, which has made the "correct" way to do it impossible to determine.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244569&forum_id=2#3648477)




Date: August 21st, 2005 9:43 PM
Author: vincec (vincenteceballos@gmail.com)

agreed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244569&forum_id=2#3648482)




Date: August 21st, 2005 9:42 PM
Author: Hazelrah

I'm used to it, so I still do it. If I had to, it'd be a lot easier to turn all the double spaces into single ones than the other way around.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244569&forum_id=2#3648479)




Date: August 21st, 2005 10:10 PM
Author: zxcvbnm

I'm surprised so many people seem to adhere to this outdated convention, yet nobody ever uses two spaces on here. If there really was a "right" way to it or a difference in legibility, why wouldn't people use two spaces in everything they wrote?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244569&forum_id=2#3648685)




Date: August 21st, 2005 11:44 PM
Author: Hazelrah

Um, HTML displays multiple spaces as just one space. In fact I just used two spaces after that last period. You can see this if you view the source HTML for this page. I'm also not the only person who did this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244569&forum_id=2#3649461)




Date: August 21st, 2005 11:45 PM
Author: ...../....\...\/....../.....\....

it's not possible to use 2 spaces on here, so you wouldn't notice even if people were typing them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244569&forum_id=2#3649466)




Date: August 21st, 2005 9:47 PM
Author: lsatdude

Classic thread on this topic:

http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=26343&mc=121&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244569&forum_id=2#3648525)




Date: August 21st, 2005 10:12 PM
Author: Enron

What the fuck so there is no standard?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244569&forum_id=2#3648708)




Date: August 21st, 2005 10:13 PM
Author: Luke_Schenscher_has_a_posse (Ignorant of the facts and the Lord's Word)

nope. Old school texts even have like 5 spaces sometimes. Its weird.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244569&forum_id=2#3648719)




Date: August 21st, 2005 10:14 PM
Author: vincec (vincenteceballos@gmail.com)

My menu at Ruth's Chris had at least four spaces between sentences.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244569&forum_id=2#3648722)




Date: August 21st, 2005 10:15 PM
Author: Enron

Do the 2 spaces in between my two front teeth count?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244569&forum_id=2#3648737)




Date: August 21st, 2005 10:15 PM
Author: Luke_Schenscher_has_a_posse (Ignorant of the facts and the Lord's Word)

I have this old version of Don Quixote from like the 40's. Sometimes there will be like 6 spaces inbetween sentences.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244569&forum_id=2#3648745)




Date: August 21st, 2005 10:17 PM
Author: Mrs. Earl Riche (What's this about, Eugene?)

Does any one use the MLA Handbook for Writers of Research Papers (5th/6th edition)?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244569&forum_id=2#3648762)




Date: August 21st, 2005 10:18 PM
Author: Enron

Not I.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244569&forum_id=2#3648770)




Date: August 21st, 2005 11:41 PM
Author: gridlocker

Apparently, neither do you use a grammar book.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244569&forum_id=2#3649424)




Date: August 21st, 2005 11:42 PM
Author: Nigger

Apparently, you do not use grammar books either.

tootles.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244569&forum_id=2#3649438)




Date: August 21st, 2005 11:43 PM
Author: gridlocker

That's true; I don't.

But my sentence looks all right to me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244569&forum_id=2#3649452)




Date: August 21st, 2005 11:47 PM
Author: Nigger

Your sentence was worse than his.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244569&forum_id=2#3649487)




Date: August 21st, 2005 11:51 PM
Author: gridlocker

My sentence looks all right to me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244569&forum_id=2#3649521)




Date: August 22nd, 2005 12:00 AM
Author: Nigger

Keep telling yourself that until you believe it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244569&forum_id=2#3649578)




Date: August 22nd, 2005 12:03 AM
Author: gridlocker

I believe it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244569&forum_id=2#3649597)




Date: August 22nd, 2005 12:16 AM
Author: galois

I read in some prominent place (perhaps the Chicago Manual of Style) that one space is appropriate. Two spaces harken back to the days of typewriters.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244569&forum_id=2#3649676)




Date: August 22nd, 2005 12:17 AM
Author: gridlocker

It's pretty clear that most print and electronic media use at most one full space.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244569&forum_id=2#3649680)




Date: August 22nd, 2005 6:47 AM
Author: Fiver

The Michigan Law Review only uses one space.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244569&forum_id=2#3650955)




Date: August 22nd, 2005 7:55 AM
Author: rk982 (it's never legal advice)

Almost all good law reviews use only one space. This is because almost all professional publications and presses use only one space.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244569&forum_id=2#3650975)




Date: August 22nd, 2005 8:04 AM
Author: I am thinking of aurochs and angels

I thought you clerked in CA. It's 5AM there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244569&forum_id=2#3650979)




Date: August 22nd, 2005 8:23 AM
Author: Nacho
Subject: wow, it's been hammered into my head for at least 10 years

for two spaces. i've gone back into documents and added spaces to mine and even others while editing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=244569&forum_id=2#3650984)