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Date: July 29th, 2014 4:02 PM Author: Pale orchestra pit juggernaut
Reality: she was unfaithful regardless of the relationship's status
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2631120&forum_id=2#26023210)
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Date: July 29th, 2014 5:05 PM Author: nubile clown
my knowledge of this is purely anecdotal, it's true
and I know it's probably common pov that an unattractive guy would be loyal/grateful/etc.
but insecurity or brokenness, in men and women, is the root of infidelity/shadiness
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2631120&forum_id=2#26023592) |
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Date: July 29th, 2014 5:29 PM Author: nubile clown
you're right
being unattractive doesn't necessarily make one insecure
however, I will stick to my point fully that being insecure/broken does increase the odds of one being unfaithful
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2631120&forum_id=2#26023751) |
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Date: July 29th, 2014 5:31 PM Author: sick useless selfie
yes, it does
the problem wasn't with saying unattractive people were insecure, it was with saying attractive people were secure
also, attractive people cheat all the fucking time, there are fewer consequences to them and they can find someone new far more easily
the idea that it's more likely that an unattractive person cheats is the worst sort of female rationalization (see tinder threads) and i know you can do better
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2631120&forum_id=2#26023758) |
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Date: July 29th, 2014 5:34 PM Author: nubile clown
yeah, for sure - I suppose when we started this convo the word shady was being used which triggered a different image of the situation at hand
here's my thought on shadiness:
a guy who is perceived as loyal and good and like he's not a threat can be sneak-attack shitty based on some long-term, deep-rooted past of being rejected or unnoticed by women and then boom, maybe one day he gets more attention than he ever did, and he can't resist that wish fulfillment
but overall, yeah, all people are insecure in some ways and those insecurities might breed a cheater
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2631120&forum_id=2#26023778) |
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Date: July 29th, 2014 5:40 PM Author: nubile clown
how about we just say in most cases
also using tiger woods as an example is hilarious
he's a super famous athlete
the average unattractive dude doesn't have that access
and yes, I do believe that insecurity is still applicable lol
we just may not agree on this
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2631120&forum_id=2#26023820) |
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Date: July 29th, 2014 5:47 PM Author: sick useless selfie
we're talking about attractive people, not unattractive people. those were the ones you said are "safe".
the point isn't to win an argument with you or make fun of you or anything because i don't think we're in a real xo argument and i like you a lot. but it is important to point out the real and vicious ways in which hypergamy manifests itself more or less everywhere in the female psyche. i mean you seem to literally be saying that having *greater* access to other women makes a man *less* likely to cheat. this is EXACTLY the sort of rationalization we see from women in tinder pumo's threads. there is a trait you see yourself as valuing (integrity/honesty/fidelity or whatever) and having that as part of your romantic self-image makes you feel good. it's not superficial to value the steadfast reliable people. and then what do women do when they are always drawn to the most attractive guys and friendzone the reliable wizards? well, just like shrews who write articles lambasting the male privilege of "nice guys" but get wet watching bonobos fuck each other and reading chads' lick messages on tinder, women find a way to link the trait they actually like (in this case, physical attractiveness) to the (unrelated or even inversely correlated) trait they think they're supposed to like, which society says they should like, which they can look in the mirror and tell themselves they like.
and it's not even a problem that you do it but there is an entire culture now devoted to justifying these sorts of reactions, while all the mainstays which in older times might (in lieu of actual cuckolding which was quite common) allowed men with the "i'm a good person because i say i like these" traits access to the gene pool as well as the chads and alphas of the world have dissolved.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2631120&forum_id=2#26023860) |
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Date: July 29th, 2014 5:54 PM Author: nubile clown
first note: I never said attractive people are safe
this conversation started within the context of a shady, self-identified unattractive male
secondly, there are one million ways to skin the cat that is infidelity and the roots of it
access to women versus probability of being able to fuck them are different things, by the way
you seem upset, though, and honestly I'm not quite sure I understand your second paragraph, so I won't dispute it (sorry)
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2631120&forum_id=2#26023905) |
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Date: July 29th, 2014 5:58 PM Author: nubile clown
I suppose I'm just confused at this point
you seem mad at female dating and mating habits
I'm not sure I'm being dishonest about the fact that I believe all types of men, particularly insecure, unattractive ones might fall victim to some temptation
and women, obviously
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2631120&forum_id=2#26023947) |
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Date: July 29th, 2014 6:07 PM Author: nubile clown
this wasn't a campaign against unattractive people
or a stroking of the virtues of those who are attractive -- or my assumption that by being attractive one has more virtue
I just discussed one end of the equation (that unattractive dudes - who, by the way, self-identify that way - might be SURPRISINGLY shadier and more likely to have a hole in their soul to fill through opportunities presented to them), but that doesn't mean I believe that attractive dudes are secure, stable, and good-to-go
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2631120&forum_id=2#26024010)
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Date: July 29th, 2014 6:14 PM Author: sick useless selfie
my belief is that this is very false, and i also believe self-reporting can't be trusted when it comes to this (no, i don't particularly trust men to be self-reflective about these issues either). i think women like to think things like this, that everything is about emotions and feelings and trying to heal past traumas and victimizations and stuff like that, and i think men when given the opportunity will probably latch on to things like this in order to justify their own cheating behaviors. it is worth noting that in order to become romantically involved with someone of the opposite gender, and a fortiori in order to cheat, men must do different things than women must. these things are generally not linked to insecurity in the ways that female promiscuity might be. they are linked to attractiveness, confidence, height, emotional disregard, and other chad mcalpha bonobocock leitmotifs.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2631120&forum_id=2#26024037) |
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Date: July 29th, 2014 6:24 PM Author: orange cruise ship windowlicker
men cheat bc they're insecure
and women like confident guys NOT assholes, ok??? haven't you ever heard the way chad fratbro talks to his fratbros in the fratbrohouse? it's 100% respectful anti patriarchal feminism mixed with bouts of profound sadness & regret about their insecurity leading them to betray their cherished partners
unlike sexist rapist BETA VIRGIN ASSHOLES who couldn't make the lacrosse team
jfc wake up and listen you patriarchal thug #yesallwomen
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2631120&forum_id=2#26024103) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2014 4:59 AM Author: Dull halford
180
"men cheat bc they're insecure "
i particularly hate this one...
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2631120&forum_id=2#26189030) |
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Date: July 29th, 2014 7:02 PM Author: sick useless selfie
of course men can do monogamy and i personally have never even considered cheating on a significant other. like anybody else i also have both male and female friends who cheat. the ones who cheat are more attractive than the ones who don't and the men who cheat are more likely to talk about it openly as though it's a completely natural continuation/extension of normal male courtship attempts than the women who cheat. i would expect neither of those things to surprise anybody but apparently the first surprises cac and the second surprises you.
i'm not sure i've made myself clear on why it matters for cheating that men have to make an effort in a way women don't. for men, most of the time, and especially men who are both unattractive and insecure, soul-edifying women who want to be around them and make them feel worthwhile and cared for don't simply pop up in groceries or in bars. they are created by the men themselves out of perseverance, tactical insight, and dumb luck, like pygmalion's statue made flesh. a man who wants to cheat, like a man who wants to have sex in the first place, must be able to try and fail and try again and so on, without being cut deep by rejections and without doubting his ability to eventually sculpt something lifelike.
and all sorts of men fall by the wayside in this process, and more than anything else what bothers us on xo about feminism is that feminists seem to believe this failure has a moral component, beyond lack of self-belief or an incapacity to as it were put in the time. the ones too sensitive for casual sex are old-fashioned prudes. the ones who don't want to be taken for predators are passive-aggressive or "nice" with the quotes around. and now the insecure ones are unreliable. the world will keep spinning around the sun and genghis khan's myriad whores will keep finding ways to say that their brothers and cousins and neighbors and friends are not just non-warlords, not just insufficiently attractive and confident and self-interested to continue their line, but bad people for being so. so it goes. that is hypergamy.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2631120&forum_id=2#26024293) |
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Date: July 29th, 2014 5:26 PM Author: nubile clown
it's important to slap the wrist of any bad behavior
what she did is far worse obviously
and dump-worthy
that you read my post in this thread as some kind of advocacy for infidelity is bizarre
I understand that in a moment of extreme confusion or suspicion that looking at someone's phone might be the only way to discover some truth, but surely the symptoms that led up to this were enough to dump her without the final stab of such an act
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2631120&forum_id=2#26023735)
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Date: July 29th, 2014 5:41 PM Author: nubile clown
my side is what's right
not my gender
hth
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2631120&forum_id=2#26023825) |
Date: July 29th, 2014 4:04 PM Author: aquamarine stimulating gay wizard laser beams
She's letting you know how little value you bring to the relationship. She can be back on the cock horse within 24 hours if she wanted to.
It's just a power play, so ignore her feeble attempts.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2631120&forum_id=2#26023233) |
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Date: July 29th, 2014 4:58 PM Author: Stubborn jade nibblets
This...
My gf tries to pull this shit from time to time when we're fighting. she'll subtly make hints at how dudes hit on her at the bar.
My response... if you think you can find someone better or you aren't happy with me, by all means go for it.
She shuts up right away and says some shit about how she doesn't want to be with anyone else but I should do x and y differently.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2631120&forum_id=2#26023551) |
Date: July 29th, 2014 6:28 PM Author: irradiated black woman
"racy pictures of her in a dress"
does not compute
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2631120&forum_id=2#26024122) |
Date: July 29th, 2014 10:16 PM Author: aqua den athletic conference
OOO THAT DRESS SO SCANDALOUS
YOU KNOW ANOTHER NIGGA COULDNT HANDLE IT
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2631120&forum_id=2#26025440) |
Date: July 30th, 2014 11:35 AM Author: Splenetic scourge upon the earth
worst part is that as soon you break up with her, she has someone lined up to fuck her senseless aka photo receiver dude
you need to line someone up to fuck FIRST and then dump her so she isnt the only one falling straight into rebound sex or you'll feel like shit and regret dumping her
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2631120&forum_id=2#26028401)
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