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Date: August 16th, 2014 1:00 PM Author: Floppy public bath http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BufcBAlyU04&list=UUCl1y2iHTY34Zlmgw89l_yQ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#26140446) |
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Date: August 17th, 2014 8:34 AM Author: Arousing effete set rigor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#26145759) |
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Date: February 20th, 2015 5:09 AM Author: aphrodisiac rose office "they make 600,000, 700,000 dollars"
wut |
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Date: February 20th, 2015 5:11 AM Author: Fiercely-loyal brunch cr. wtf?? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#27354729) |
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Date: May 6th, 2015 11:14 PM Author: Hairraiser national generalized bond partners. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#27837857) |
Date: August 16th, 2014 1:16 PM Author: hateful sable ticket booth He definitely poasts. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#26140497) |
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Date: August 16th, 2014 1:23 PM Author: Insecure Range (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#26140510) |
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Date: February 20th, 2015 5:14 AM Author: Fiercely-loyal brunch cr. see 3:40. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#27354737) |
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Date: August 16th, 2014 1:23 PM Author: coral idiot Hundreds of lawyers billing 2300, 2400, 2500 hours ....
It nearly killed me the year I billed 2000. Now that is a floor, what once was seen as mental illness is now a floor.
LOL
Try 3000 boomer scum. |
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Date: August 16th, 2014 1:28 PM Author: Floppy public bath 3000? really? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#26140524) |
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Date: August 16th, 2014 1:58 PM Author: hateful sable ticket booth 50% padding. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#26140594) |
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Date: August 16th, 2014 2:02 PM Author: coral idiot 100% no life.
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Date: August 16th, 2014 2:15 PM Author: aqua mewling dingle berry crotch why did you get partnership-pwn3d if u bill that much (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#26140659) |
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Date: August 16th, 2014 3:01 PM Author: coral idiot Punted not pwned (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#26140920) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2015 12:11 AM Author: Crawly mad-dog skullcap LJL (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#27169021) |
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Date: August 16th, 2014 3:05 PM Author: brindle hyperventilating place of business trailer park If I see 3000, I see poor management by the firm. It's not worth the negative collateral risks, especially if the attorney is actually valuable to the practice, but even if they're just churning and burning some junior. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#26140935) |
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Date: August 16th, 2014 2:08 PM Author: vivacious site fortuitous meteor Nobody is billing 2500. Nobody is billing 2300 except in an outlier year or two and if you are you aint going to still be practicing in 5 years -- that's for sure. If you are over 2000 you are good. Plenty of firms if you are over 1800-1850 you are golden.
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Date: August 16th, 2014 2:54 PM Author: Well-lubricated Skinny Woman Your shitlaw perspectives are not relevant to this topic. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#26140891) |
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Date: August 16th, 2014 3:09 PM Author: orange abode marketing idea 1800 you can stick around for three years or so if you do good work and people like you which is all most people want. But people won't take your long term success at the firm seriously (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#26140949) |
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Date: August 16th, 2014 3:10 PM Author: passionate yellow corner blood rage Dude, this is totally wrong. If you are a 4th or 5th year at a good/great firm in Philly (not NYC which is much worse), 2000 is the absolute minimu not to get fired (with no hours bonus) and most good associates are north of 2200. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#26140958) |
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Date: August 16th, 2014 3:12 PM Author: mahogany outnumbered hall This is consistent with my experience these last few years (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#26140969) |
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Date: August 16th, 2014 3:12 PM Author: electric ruddy police squad The average person at a biglaw firm bills something like 1700 hours. But consider this is skewed by the great number of people coming/going.
That said, there are a ton of lawyers who bill 2200+ hours, which is a shitton. What I haven't been able to figure out is how much of this is their choice. |
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Date: August 16th, 2014 3:14 PM Author: passionate yellow corner blood rage Fucking bullshit. No associate is billing 1700 hours in BIGLAW. That is a fucking joke. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#26140976) |
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Date: August 16th, 2014 3:14 PM Author: Beta insane cumskin first years routinely bill like 1200 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#26140979) |
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Date: August 16th, 2014 3:15 PM Author: passionate yellow corner blood rage LOL. You are fucking insane. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#26140986) |
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Date: August 16th, 2014 3:23 PM Author: Beta insane cumskin ??? were u midlaw? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#26141046) |
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Date: February 20th, 2015 6:36 AM Author: multi-colored pearly people who are hurt you're literally stupid, rudolph (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#27354806) |
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Date: August 16th, 2014 3:19 PM Author: orange abode marketing idea Lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#26141019) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2015 12:02 AM Author: dashing yarmulke Poor j shad (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#27168958) |
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Date: August 16th, 2014 3:16 PM Author: electric ruddy police squad I pointed out the number is skewed, but it is the number. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#26140992) |
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Date: August 16th, 2014 3:17 PM Author: passionate yellow corner blood rage If that is the number it is only the number because they are counting in maternity leave and old as fuck cruiser partners as if they are actual attorneys. If the number is anything other than associates' hours for the entire year, it is a meaningless number. No associates bill 1700 in BIGLAW brother. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#26141010) |
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Date: August 16th, 2014 3:20 PM Author: electric ruddy police squad Just associates, not partners.
And another metric, our bonus is something like 1900-2000 hours. Roughly 1/3 of associates make that. Again, part of that is because people are coming and going, but just trying to point out facts as opposed to the bullshit you are spouting. |
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Date: August 16th, 2014 3:23 PM Author: passionate yellow corner blood rage Bro, your firm is TTT. Sorry. No legit BIGLAW firm has Associates averaging 1700. saytpf. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#26141042) |
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Date: August 16th, 2014 3:26 PM Author: electric ruddy police squad The finance guy said we were trailing our peers but not by much.
But yeah, it sounds like you're the problem with big law. When you hear that a firm's associates are averaging around 50 hours a week in the office, you scoff and dismiss it as a shitty firm.
What the fuck is wrong with you? Go live your life. |
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Date: August 16th, 2014 3:26 PM Author: mahogany outnumbered hall Rudolph never not being (Rudolph)
my v10 firm gives us average associate hours every year, and it is fucking low as shit (well south of 1800, so south that the managing partner admonished us all a few years ago that we need to consider 1600 hours a year as the MINIMUM), and so low that it can't just be maternity leave and turnover. That's not saying everyone is billing south of 1600 hours, but enough are to drive all the 2200-3000 hour associates averages way down. Much of that is slow practice groups over the past few years (I'm looking at you real estate), but also much of it is people doing just enough to not get fired, and at 2000 hours a year (at my firm in my group at least) you are comfortably in the not-being fired range (note, 2000 hours still means you need to be available at night/weekends when shit comes up). In fact, whenever I start billing 70-80 hour weeks, I have partners telling me to tone it down so I don't burn out on them. |
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Date: August 16th, 2014 3:29 PM Author: orange abode marketing idea Real estate has been going off like gangbusters the last year and a half. Saytpf. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#26141076) |
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Date: January 19th, 2015 4:05 AM Author: Razzle Pervert Volcanic Crater (DPW associate) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#27144460) |
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Date: August 20th, 2014 12:53 PM Author: charismatic internal respiration half-breed I have billed 2900 in a year. We had two cases go to jury trial. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#26169269) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2014 10:42 PM Author: Razzle Pervert Volcanic Crater Many people are billing 2500 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#26186947) |
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Date: August 16th, 2014 3:10 PM Author: electric ruddy police squad This guy is a bit of a douche. "They look at what the starting salary is rather than the mentoring programs or the work"
The work is shit and mentoring programs don't matter. I've seen movies from the 80's - surprise! People cared about money then too.
If firms started offering federal judge perks - great hours, tenure, and pensions, maybe we'd care about more than getting cash for our labor. |
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Date: August 16th, 2014 3:11 PM Author: passionate yellow corner blood rage So, what you are saying then is the firm work is fungible? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#26140962) |
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Date: August 16th, 2014 3:14 PM Author: electric ruddy police squad It's pretty fungible, especially at the lower levels. You're not going to be more satisfied working on a case for a fortune 100 company than you are a fortune 500 company. Look at salary and hours, not rankings. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#26140978) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2014 10:39 PM Author: Motley Party Of The First Part Nibblets Work isn't invariably shit, but there's not a hell of a lot to go on as a law student, and really doubt you can select for "mentoring" except to the extent that you are able to weed out firms with clearly terrible partners. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#26186916) |
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Date: February 20th, 2015 5:15 AM Author: Fiercely-loyal brunch cr. he goes full shitboomer at the end. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#27354739) |
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Date: February 20th, 2015 5:16 AM Author: aphrodisiac rose office titcr. just do don't worry about starting salary but go to law school that costs $275K (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#27354741) |
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Date: August 21st, 2014 10:22 PM Author: Floppy public bath (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#26180090) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2014 10:28 PM Author: Motley Party Of The First Part Nibblets Hours seem off. My firm gave averages in past years, and they were well below 2000 in every group. One of the more recent partners in my group is also on record saying he has never billed 2000 hours. I've always been in the 1900 range myself and the only feedback I've received on hours is to try to keep things in balance and "have a life." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#26186845) |
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Date: September 13th, 2014 5:39 PM Author: slimy meetinghouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#26322707) |
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Date: September 13th, 2014 5:58 PM Author: wine theatre azn Half the problem is the meaningless deadlines set by the courts, which result in even more meaningless internal deadlines set by partners and senior associates... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#26322846) |
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Date: September 13th, 2014 6:20 PM Author: Mischievous Potus Masturbator Lol just meet your filing deadline faggot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#26322951) |
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Date: January 19th, 2015 1:20 AM Author: Greedy opaque quadroon This, except don't forget to add the client-driven deadline in the middle of those two things. Goes like this:
Court thinks: One week is plenty of time to write up a response to my sua sponte idea for why judgment should not be entered for the plaintiff! After all, this is a Biglaw firm for a F500 client and I'm only giving them 5 pages anyway.
Client thinks: Crap! The judge is thinking about ruling against us!!! That would be a total disaster not just for this case, but all the copycat cases sure to follow. I need to make sure Biglaw firm doesn't fuck this up. *Tells Top-level Parter partner to get him a draft of the response in 48 hours*
Top-level Partner thinks: Holy shit, this is one of our firm's most important client and if we fuck this up, we risk ruining our relationship with them. I better make sure Junior Partner has this covered. *Tells Junior Partner to get him a draft in the next 24 hours (i.e., high noon the following day)*
Junior Partner thinks: Fuck. I don't even know what the judge was talking about at the hearing, and I've got three other briefs going out today. Will have to look at this first thing tomorrow morning. *Tells Senior Associate to have him a draft first thing tomorrow morning.*
Senior Associate thinks: If I do good job on this, I can make PARTNER here! I can do this! Everyone will think I'm a GENIUS!!! Now, how much of this can I dump on the junior associates? *Tells Junior Associates to get him their respective assignments in 3 hours -- but asks so many follow-up questions that they all end up pulling all nighters.*
Junior Associates think: Fuck.
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Date: January 19th, 2015 1:22 AM Author: aggressive pit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#27143743) |
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Date: January 19th, 2015 4:19 AM Author: swollen contagious church are the Junior Associates xo poasters? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#27144486) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2015 11:51 PM Author: Greedy opaque quadroon TLS (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#27168888) |
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Date: February 20th, 2015 5:01 AM Author: Fiercely-loyal brunch 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#27354716) |
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Date: February 20th, 2015 5:08 AM Author: aphrodisiac rose office 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#27354725) |
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Date: October 4th, 2014 1:40 PM Author: slimy meetinghouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#26455262) |
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Date: January 18th, 2015 8:48 PM Author: swollen contagious church 180 thread (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#27141627) |
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Date: January 19th, 2015 1:45 AM Author: Insanely creepy macaca persian MENTAL. ILLNESS. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#27143903) |
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Date: January 19th, 2015 1:54 AM Author: swollen contagious church And that's just the minimum! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#27143968) |
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Date: February 20th, 2015 4:27 AM Author: Violent point turdskin (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#27354686) |
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Date: February 20th, 2015 5:12 AM Author: Fiercely-loyal brunch is this the same production company as the k&e on balance vid? same soppy music. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#27354731) |
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Date: February 20th, 2015 5:12 AM Author: aphrodisiac rose office cr this music is awful (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#27354732) |
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Date: May 6th, 2015 11:02 PM Author: slimy meetinghouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2646988&forum_id=2#27837781) |