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Are there college-educated people who don't get the logic of the contrapositive?

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Crystalline thriller locus
  03/18/17
ask your local gender/ethnic studies department graduates
Excitant Parlour
  03/18/17
probably like 80%
abnormal dilemma
  03/18/17
That must be an exaggeration
Crystalline thriller locus
  03/18/17
you greatly overestimate college graduates
Excitant Parlour
  03/18/17
I've literally taught them. they don't know shit
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  03/18/17
can you explain your experience with trying to teach it to t...
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they understand it perfectly when you explain it to them. bu...
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They are generally more confused by the equivalency between ...
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Crystalline thriller locus
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tons. I would literally drill it into them like a cult chan...
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  03/18/17
What do you mean by "get it"?
Fuchsia selfie knife
  03/18/17
That it's logically valid.
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  03/18/17
You mean that the contrapositive of a true conditional state...
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don't get it like not capable of understanding it when it's ...
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  03/18/17
either not get it when explained or do get it when explained...
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what's that?
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Read In the basement of the ivory tower. actual retards get...
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Most college grads don't.
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  04/27/17
explain
hyperactive casino
  04/28/17
You need to have an IQ of around 115 to grasp formal logic. ...
diverse territorial french chef
  04/28/17
read this as "logic of the contraceptive"
buck-toothed crotch quadroon
  04/27/17
As a former LSAT instructor I'd say 80% can it up quickly en...
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  04/28/17
Just use unnecessary and insufficient to help explain then.
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but can they apply it consistently to increasingly abstract ...
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(guy still DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient questions)
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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:47 PM
Author: Crystalline thriller locus



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:48 PM
Author: Excitant Parlour

ask your local gender/ethnic studies department graduates

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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:49 PM
Author: abnormal dilemma

probably like 80%

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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:54 PM
Author: Crystalline thriller locus

That must be an exaggeration

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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:55 PM
Author: Excitant Parlour

you greatly overestimate college graduates

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Date: March 18th, 2017 4:20 PM
Author: abnormal dilemma

I've literally taught them. they don't know shit

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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:01 PM
Author: hyperactive casino

can you explain your experience with trying to teach it to them? what issue do they have with the logic?

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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:50 PM
Author: abnormal dilemma

they understand it perfectly when you explain it to them. but if it comes up in the wild, forget about it

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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:50 PM
Author: alcoholic temple main people

They are generally more confused by the equivalency between converse and inverse

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Date: March 18th, 2017 4:19 PM
Author: Crystalline thriller locus



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:42 PM
Author: Crystalline thriller locus



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:59 PM
Author: fluffy boyish ratface house

tons. I would literally drill it into them like a cult chant when I taught it.

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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:01 PM
Author: Fuchsia selfie knife

What do you mean by "get it"?

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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:05 PM
Author: Topaz gaped candlestick maker market

That it's logically valid.

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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:06 PM
Author: Fuchsia selfie knife

You mean that the contrapositive of a true conditional statement is always true?

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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:07 PM
Author: Transparent laser beams

don't get it like not capable of understanding it when it's explained? or like they come out of college, graduating and aren't familiar with it?

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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:34 PM
Author: hyperactive casino

either not get it when explained or do get it when explained, but not able to apply it to statements whose logic does not correlate to any real-life situation.

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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:06 PM
Author: Mewling rough-skinned brunch fat ankles

what's that?

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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:08 PM
Author: Slimy Factory Reset Button Kitchen

Read In the basement of the ivory tower. actual retards get college degrees, bro.

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Date: March 18th, 2017 11:58 PM
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Date: March 19th, 2017 6:24 PM
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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:53 PM
Author: diverse territorial french chef

Most college grads don't.

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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:12 AM
Author: hyperactive casino

explain

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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:15 AM
Author: diverse territorial french chef

You need to have an IQ of around 115 to grasp formal logic. The median college grad IQ is lower. QED.

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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:59 PM
Author: buck-toothed crotch quadroon

read this as "logic of the contraceptive"

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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:15 AM
Author: Big-titted spot turdskin

As a former LSAT instructor I'd say 80% can it up quickly enough when you explain it to them. They are DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient conditions.

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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:17 AM
Author: Mustard principal's office

Just use unnecessary and insufficient to help explain then.

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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:21 AM
Author: hyperactive casino

but can they apply it consistently to increasingly abstract situations?

how did they do on those grouping games with chains of conditional statements?

also describe the DEVASTATION

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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:27 AM
Author: Yellow nubile pit

first, you are dealing with people who are smarter than average college students if you are an lsat instructor.

second, you didn't say how many got it before you explained it

third, i'd like to hear more about your n vs s stuff

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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:36 PM
Author: Vigorous sable internal respiration

(guy still DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient questions)

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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:35 PM
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