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Are there college-educated people who don't get the logic of the contrapositive?

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Arousing whorehouse
  03/18/17
ask your local gender/ethnic studies department graduates
Vermilion crusty gay wizard indirect expression
  03/18/17
probably like 80%
rebellious disrespectful property tattoo
  03/18/17
That must be an exaggeration
Arousing whorehouse
  03/18/17
you greatly overestimate college graduates
Vermilion crusty gay wizard indirect expression
  03/18/17
I've literally taught them. they don't know shit
rebellious disrespectful property tattoo
  03/18/17
can you explain your experience with trying to teach it to t...
jade buck-toothed orchestra pit tank
  03/18/17
they understand it perfectly when you explain it to them. bu...
rebellious disrespectful property tattoo
  03/18/17
They are generally more confused by the equivalency between ...
diverse double fault range
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Arousing whorehouse
  03/18/17
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Arousing whorehouse
  03/18/17
tons. I would literally drill it into them like a cult chan...
brass maniacal field feces
  03/18/17
What do you mean by "get it"?
Startling heaven
  03/18/17
That it's logically valid.
Twinkling Yapping Forum
  03/18/17
You mean that the contrapositive of a true conditional state...
Startling heaven
  03/18/17
don't get it like not capable of understanding it when it's ...
Orange curious temple
  03/18/17
either not get it when explained or do get it when explained...
jade buck-toothed orchestra pit tank
  03/18/17
what's that?
Mischievous chartreuse athletic conference
  03/18/17
Read In the basement of the ivory tower. actual retards get...
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tmf
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jade buck-toothed orchestra pit tank
  04/27/17
Most college grads don't.
Contagious Rough-skinned Pocket Flask
  04/27/17
explain
jade buck-toothed orchestra pit tank
  04/28/17
You need to have an IQ of around 115 to grasp formal logic. ...
Contagious Rough-skinned Pocket Flask
  04/28/17
read this as "logic of the contraceptive"
slap-happy pistol
  04/27/17
As a former LSAT instructor I'd say 80% can it up quickly en...
vibrant nofapping theater
  04/28/17
Just use unnecessary and insufficient to help explain then.
Bossy Church
  04/28/17
but can they apply it consistently to increasingly abstract ...
jade buck-toothed orchestra pit tank
  04/28/17
first, you are dealing with people who are smarter than aver...
Pearly Rehab
  04/28/17
(guy still DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient questions)
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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:47 PM
Author: Arousing whorehouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860235)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:48 PM
Author: Vermilion crusty gay wizard indirect expression

ask your local gender/ethnic studies department graduates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860237)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:49 PM
Author: rebellious disrespectful property tattoo

probably like 80%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860246)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:54 PM
Author: Arousing whorehouse

That must be an exaggeration

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860271)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:55 PM
Author: Vermilion crusty gay wizard indirect expression

you greatly overestimate college graduates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860274)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 4:20 PM
Author: rebellious disrespectful property tattoo

I've literally taught them. they don't know shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860432)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:01 PM
Author: jade buck-toothed orchestra pit tank

can you explain your experience with trying to teach it to them? what issue do they have with the logic?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860674)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:50 PM
Author: rebellious disrespectful property tattoo

they understand it perfectly when you explain it to them. but if it comes up in the wild, forget about it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861332)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:50 PM
Author: diverse double fault range

They are generally more confused by the equivalency between converse and inverse

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860254)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 4:19 PM
Author: Arousing whorehouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860425)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:42 PM
Author: Arousing whorehouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860937)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:59 PM
Author: brass maniacal field feces

tons. I would literally drill it into them like a cult chant when I taught it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861064)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:01 PM
Author: Startling heaven

What do you mean by "get it"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861081)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:05 PM
Author: Twinkling Yapping Forum

That it's logically valid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861108)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:06 PM
Author: Startling heaven

You mean that the contrapositive of a true conditional statement is always true?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861116)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:07 PM
Author: Orange curious temple

don't get it like not capable of understanding it when it's explained? or like they come out of college, graduating and aren't familiar with it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861123)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:34 PM
Author: jade buck-toothed orchestra pit tank

either not get it when explained or do get it when explained, but not able to apply it to statements whose logic does not correlate to any real-life situation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861648)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:06 PM
Author: Mischievous chartreuse athletic conference

what's that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861443)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:08 PM
Author: fragrant skinny woman famous landscape painting

Read In the basement of the ivory tower. actual retards get college degrees, bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861460)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 11:58 PM
Author: jade buck-toothed orchestra pit tank



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32863514)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 1:13 AM
Author: jade buck-toothed orchestra pit tank



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32864062)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 10:52 AM
Author: jade buck-toothed orchestra pit tank



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32865145)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 11:09 AM
Author: Judgmental greedy circlehead fanboi



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32865235)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 6:23 PM
Author: jade buck-toothed orchestra pit tank



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32868476)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 6:24 PM
Author: marvelous medicated organic girlfriend

tmf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32868488)



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Date: March 22nd, 2017 3:40 PM
Author: jade buck-toothed orchestra pit tank



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32890290)



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Date: April 14th, 2017 1:26 AM
Author: jade buck-toothed orchestra pit tank



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33070179)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:46 PM
Author: jade buck-toothed orchestra pit tank



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181541)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:53 PM
Author: Contagious Rough-skinned Pocket Flask

Most college grads don't.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181585)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:12 AM
Author: jade buck-toothed orchestra pit tank

explain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181727)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:15 AM
Author: Contagious Rough-skinned Pocket Flask

You need to have an IQ of around 115 to grasp formal logic. The median college grad IQ is lower. QED.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181738)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:59 PM
Author: slap-happy pistol

read this as "logic of the contraceptive"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181634)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:15 AM
Author: vibrant nofapping theater

As a former LSAT instructor I'd say 80% can it up quickly enough when you explain it to them. They are DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient conditions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181742)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:17 AM
Author: Bossy Church

Just use unnecessary and insufficient to help explain then.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181755)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:21 AM
Author: jade buck-toothed orchestra pit tank

but can they apply it consistently to increasingly abstract situations?

how did they do on those grouping games with chains of conditional statements?

also describe the DEVASTATION

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181773)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:27 AM
Author: Pearly Rehab

first, you are dealing with people who are smarter than average college students if you are an lsat instructor.

second, you didn't say how many got it before you explained it

third, i'd like to hear more about your n vs s stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181802)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:36 PM
Author: Ocher stock car

(guy still DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient questions)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359479)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:35 PM
Author: Ocher stock car



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359469)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:46 AM
Author: jade buck-toothed orchestra pit tank



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181919)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 8:06 AM
Author: jade buck-toothed orchestra pit tank



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33182675)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 8:20 AM
Author: jade buck-toothed orchestra pit tank



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33182732)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 9:48 AM
Author: jade buck-toothed orchestra pit tank



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33183130)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 2:18 PM
Author: jade buck-toothed orchestra pit tank



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33185399)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:23 PM
Author: jade buck-toothed orchestra pit tank



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359387)



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Date: June 15th, 2017 8:39 PM
Author: jade buck-toothed orchestra pit tank



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33568398)