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Up for partner this year and want to killself. Taking questions
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Date: April 20th, 2017 7:29 PM Author: razzle ocher fanboi V20. It will be income because I'm a litigator. Taking questions until I get off the train. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33121894) |
Date: April 20th, 2017 7:30 PM Author: Useless chad milk compensation of income partner?
odds and timeline of becoming equity? |
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Date: April 20th, 2017 7:31 PM Author: razzle ocher fanboi $500-600k. If I do very well, 2-3 years. If not, who knows. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33121908) |
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Date: April 20th, 2017 7:32 PM Author: Useless chad milk fuck my ass (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33121913) |
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Date: April 20th, 2017 7:36 PM Author: razzle ocher fanboi The minority make equity on that timeline. But I'm in one of the better groups. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33121936) |
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Date: April 20th, 2017 7:47 PM Author: exciting stage pistol Are you chill with junior associates (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33121988) |
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Date: April 20th, 2017 7:56 PM Author: razzle ocher fanboi I think I have a reputation as one of the best supervisors. I try not to overwork people and, when I have to, I try to make sure they're at least involved in the strategy (not that this really makes it better). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122032) |
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Date: April 20th, 2017 8:02 PM Author: exciting stage pistol It makes it better
If you could give your 28yr old self a piece of advice, what would it be? |
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Date: April 20th, 2017 8:12 PM Author: razzle ocher fanboi My firm will never admit this, but it is sort of a lifestyle firm for junior associates. If they turn down work, nobody will bother them. If they want to take off, nobody asks them to cancel their trip. So, enjoy it as a junior. Take lots of vacations, travel abroad, and bill the minimal number of hours. If you happen to stay until you're a senior associate, nobody knows or remembers what you did as a junior (unless your work was shit). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122160) |
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Date: April 20th, 2017 8:31 PM Author: exciting stage pistol So if you had billed less and taken more vacations as a 28yr old, you wouldnt want to killself now? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122319) |
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Date: April 20th, 2017 8:43 PM Author: razzle ocher fanboi No. It's tough now. I just wish I did more when it was easier to do it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122404) |
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Date: April 20th, 2017 7:52 PM Author: Bistre trip base If you don't have a ridiculous lifestyle, you could theoretically retire after 2-3 years as an income partner. Why not do that? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122015) |
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Date: April 20th, 2017 7:56 PM Author: razzle ocher fanboi Not even close. I live in an expensive area and have a family. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122042) |
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Date: April 20th, 2017 7:57 PM Author: Learning disabled area water buffalo you could retire on a few million and live a middle-class lifestyle but you won't. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122046) |
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Date: April 20th, 2017 7:58 PM Author: Bossy sapphire boltzmann hard to save a few million after just a few years even at his salary... unless he has a significant chunk already saved up. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122052) |
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Date: April 20th, 2017 7:58 PM Author: razzle ocher fanboi I don't have a few million and, you're right, I won't. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122055) |
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Date: April 20th, 2017 8:29 PM Author: Duck-like Cerebral Spot Tank i don't know that "retirement" is a real thing anymore in that people who retire really stop being productive in a lot of facets of life. if anything, jump to something new, start a business, etc. but don't ever fully "retire". (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122296) |
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Date: April 20th, 2017 7:56 PM Author: Learning disabled area water buffalo golden handcuffs. hedonic treadmill. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122043) |
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Date: April 20th, 2017 7:57 PM Author: Bossy sapphire boltzmann What's the lowest you've billed in a year?
Highest you've billed in a year?
Average you've billed in a year?
If you don't make partner the first time, do they kick you out or do they basically let you chill as long as you are making the firm money, and reconsider you in subsequent years? |
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Date: April 20th, 2017 8:03 PM Author: razzle ocher fanboi Lowest is probably 1850 or 1900 (early in my career). Highest is last year at 2850. Average isn't that high -- probably 2100. But the last few years have been way above average.
My group will keep you around if you're making money, especially because there is a lack of good senior associates. Probably defer deciding your progression for a bit and eventually make you counsel. |
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Date: April 20th, 2017 8:11 PM Author: Crusty clear persian this sounds like my firm. although billing 2850 and around there the few years before partnership decision would pretty much guarantee you be made partner first time up.
the people not making partner are all billing below 2000... but even they are sticking around as long as they are liked and billing at least 1800 (i.e., making the firm money). |
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Date: April 20th, 2017 8:45 PM Author: Frozen stead cuckold wow, that is uber killself territory (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122416) |
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Date: April 20th, 2017 7:58 PM Author: Heady property was it worth the grind, in terms of your mental health? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122051) |
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Date: April 20th, 2017 8:05 PM Author: razzle ocher fanboi I don't know. It has been tough. I like the work, hate the hours, and most of all hate the stress it puts on my wife. Being rich is great but I'm not sure I'm going to stick it out long term. I may get the title and then start looking elsewhere. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122098) |
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Date: April 21st, 2017 9:55 AM Author: talking den gunner Lol why the fuck would she be stressed. I'm assuming sahm (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33125581) |
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Date: April 20th, 2017 7:59 PM Author: Mint vengeful parlor jfc xo the question you need to ask OP is:
"why do you want to kill yourself, bro? what is wrong with life?" |
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Date: April 20th, 2017 8:00 PM Author: Glassy aromatic potus We're all mentally ill here.
part of the implicit agreement when you hit the poast button |
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Date: April 20th, 2017 8:00 PM Author: Mint vengeful parlor Yes but there is a wide spectrum of mental illness brother (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122069) |
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Date: April 20th, 2017 8:03 PM Author: Glassy aromatic potus All sane poasters are alike. Every mentally ill poaster is mentally ill in his own way. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122083) |
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Date: April 21st, 2017 1:12 AM Author: unhinged scarlet international law enforcement agency Underrated (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33124472) |
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Date: April 20th, 2017 8:02 PM Author: Painfully honest odious private investor box office (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122074) |
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Date: April 20th, 2017 7:59 PM Author: Flushed alcoholic legend mental disorder How much weight have you gained since you were a first-year? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122061) |
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Date: April 20th, 2017 8:03 PM Author: Heady property and how are you doing in terms of alcohol/cocaine? are you stable or everyday? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122087) |
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Date: April 20th, 2017 8:08 PM Author: razzle ocher fanboi Fatter. No drugs but drink more than I should. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122119) |
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Date: April 20th, 2017 8:00 PM Author: Sepia bonkers personal credit line plaza when did you realize you wanted to die despite being richer than 99.99% of people in the world
i don't even mean that passive-aggressively, i am totally willing to buy that luxurious material goods can accompany a life which is still miserable |
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Date: April 20th, 2017 8:07 PM Author: razzle ocher fanboi I'm generally not miserable. The only times I am is when I have to miss my child's school event, work a lot on a vacation, etc. Those make me re-think my choice . (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122115) |
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Date: April 20th, 2017 8:10 PM Author: naked stirring haunted graveyard native Look around once you get the partner title. It may help with finding something else. You will never get back those childhood moments. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122135) |
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Date: April 20th, 2017 8:17 PM Author: razzle ocher fanboi Agreed. We are done having kids and the youngest adores me. I want to be there for as much stuff as possible. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122193) |
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Date: April 20th, 2017 8:27 PM Author: galvanic startling point Can we be honest. To the extent you "look around" it will be at other law firms to go do the exact same thing with perhaps marginally better hours. You have it in you to bill 3000 hours a year with small children. You won't quit now, or even 5 years from now when they barely know you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122271) |
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Date: April 20th, 2017 8:32 PM Author: thriller stubborn halford sandwich (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122323) |
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Date: April 20th, 2017 8:33 PM Author: Beady-eyed pozpig set lol cr, this faggot will die as a senior a law firm partner (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122341) |
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Date: April 20th, 2017 8:41 PM Author: razzle ocher fanboi Wrong. Zero chance I leave for another law firm -- whether big law, mid-size, or small. The quality of life isn't that much better and I have to prove myself all over again.
If I leave, it will be for an in-house job, but not at a giant company. It will have to be a small company or start-up where I can shape the culture and hire my own people. |
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Date: April 21st, 2017 9:52 AM Author: diverse costumed goal in life forum As a former attorney turned biz person, no startup is hiring litigators. Nor is a small company. Realistically, the options for litigators are pretty minimal--if your goal is to get out of law firm life (which is great, btw), I'd start laying tracks for this ASAP. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33125557) |
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Date: April 20th, 2017 8:46 PM Author: Blue rambunctious lodge cuck dont really have any (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122424) |
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Date: April 20th, 2017 8:49 PM Author: brilliant library rigor one choice. you have a rig of coke and a rig of dope. which one do you choose (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122443) |
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Date: April 20th, 2017 8:51 PM Author: exhilarant turdskin striped hyena When you're a "partner," will you still be a bitch who takes direction from other lawyers? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122455) |
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Date: April 20th, 2017 8:55 PM Author: Flushed alcoholic legend mental disorder jesus, just ram it in with no lube at all. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122499) |
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Date: April 21st, 2017 10:04 AM Author: Glittery chocolate address anyone who isn't a huge rainmaker ultimately falls into this category. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33125651) |
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Date: April 20th, 2017 8:57 PM Author: Mentally impaired 180 stag film I'm a 6th year and I finally got the balls to turn down work once I have enough to barely hit the 2000-2100 range. My life has improved remarkably since I started this. I'd honestly rather make 350 (or whatever I make after bonus) and have no partnership chance than put in even 2500 hours for a sure shot at partner level dough. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122519) |
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Date: April 21st, 2017 1:25 AM Author: Talented Cheese-eating Dilemma Gay thread, what's with all these urbanbaby tards thinking "I want to kill myself" means "I want to irl kill myself to death not flame"
Anytime I'm sluggish in the afternoon and I come back from the shitter and have a voicemail, I think "if this is someone wanting me to do work I'm gonna fucking kill myself." Chill out concernmos |
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Date: April 21st, 2017 9:58 AM Author: Glittery chocolate address at least you are at a lockstep firm. I am at a v50-60 (sub v50 obviously) and am a senior associate in a major market making 260k. I am eligible for partner this year (no idea yet if I'm being put up) and believe that first year partners make under 350k base. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33125604) |
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Date: April 21st, 2017 10:00 AM Author: bat-shit-crazy casino idea he suggested happy w/ decision to go into law? what were your other options? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33125623) |