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Forget calculus, algebra I needs to be retired as a college requirement. [LAT]

How necessary is intermediate algebra, a high school-level c...
ebony half-breed point
  07/02/17
half the college curriculum needs to go
silver step-uncle's house candlestick maker
  11/04/17
"intermediate" algebra sounds a lot like HS Algebr...
Crimson marvelous address corn cake
  07/02/17
http://www.smc.edu/AcademicPrograms/Mathematics/Documents/Co...
ebony half-breed point
  07/02/17
Look at all of that patriarchy.
Crimson marvelous address corn cake
  07/02/17
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Chocolate macaca private investor
  07/18/17
Damn i can't remember how to do some of this. I'm gonna be u...
Irate new version menage
  07/18/17
But gender studies is a must take course, right?
Clear useless brakes kitchen
  07/02/17
keep talking shit about gender theory
ultramarine parlor
  01/11/18
Doesn't stats use algebra too? What about the big push for e...
lilac fantasy-prone university
  07/02/17
Anyone going to a California public school is never going to...
Clear useless brakes kitchen
  07/02/17
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thriller red tank milk
  11/08/17
This is why we need a "vocational track".
hideous casino sound barrier
  07/02/17
This is why Idiocracy was a 180 as fuck movie.
Clear useless brakes kitchen
  07/02/17
Good luck with that in an age of automation, bro. Gazprom ha...
Clear useless brakes kitchen
  07/02/17
I knew shit was going to get bad when they stopped teaching ...
Clear useless brakes kitchen
  07/02/17
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ebony half-breed point
  07/02/17
http://i.imgur.com/OxRbnYU.jpg
Crimson marvelous address corn cake
  07/02/17
i LOL'd
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ebony half-breed point
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Poppy fluffy doctorate theatre
  07/18/17
180
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onyx ape
  01/11/18
lmao
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In the computer age, who needs cursive.
chrome cheese-eating puppy den
  01/11/18
For shitliberal arts kids who will take only one math course...
mauve bossy dog poop
  07/02/17
You generally cant get a liberal arts degree without 1 math ...
Clear useless brakes kitchen
  07/02/17
Guess you're right. It's just so basic to most of us that it...
mauve bossy dog poop
  07/02/17
If you can't do algebra you aren't doing shit.
ebony half-breed point
  07/02/17
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electric box office
  11/08/17
They wouldn't be smart enough for stats, either. You think t...
sinister hell
  07/18/17
lmao most people at my school took algebra in middle school ...
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  07/02/17
i had algebra in 8th grade and calc BC in HS and I feel only...
Mentally impaired sanctuary yarmulke
  07/02/17
Don't be shy, the phrase "extremely average" shows...
ebony half-breed point
  07/02/17
Hey bro how'd your math degree from UT work out for you? You...
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  07/02/17
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I flat out told my high school algebra teacher that I was ne...
Trip demanding headpube idiot
  07/02/17
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-california-communit...
ebony half-breed point
  07/18/17
Algebra legitimately arises in ordinary professional and sem...
sinister hell
  07/18/17
Twist: they all should be doing vocational training
low-t startling jap
  07/18/17
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onyx ape
  01/11/18
can't remember the last time algebra or calculus was useful ...
Flirting provocative stage
  07/18/17
You've never calculated accrual of interest over time or ask...
sinister hell
  07/18/17
they have web calculators for that
Flirting provocative stage
  07/18/17
Dumbs wouldn't even know how to frame the issue and ask the ...
sinister hell
  07/18/17
how are they going to do their chemistry and physics classes...
cerebral rehab philosopher-king
  07/18/17
Tools of the cishetero patriarchy.
sinister hell
  07/18/17
"Back in the 1950s, Chuck Berry recorded 'School Days,'...
Flirting provocative stage
  07/30/17
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Slimy histrionic depressive
  07/30/17
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Turquoise Resort
  11/04/17
Now listening to chuck berry all morning thank
thriller red tank milk
  11/08/17
Good. A college degree will become a stigma.
Henna abode potus
  07/30/17
Makes sense. College is basically HS at this point. We need ...
spruce curious gaping
  07/30/17
That's not David Lat
well-lubricated massive native
  07/30/17
Teaching a pig to sing exasperates you and annoys the pig. G...
pea-brained dark roast beef
  07/30/17
Lol, it makes me mad that this shit is not on the SAT. It's ...
Mind-boggling Buff Gas Station Quadroon
  07/30/17
"A good high school algebra course prepares you to do v...
Flirting provocative stage
  08/10/17
"Pre-algebra is the culmination of the math that averag...
Flirting provocative stage
  11/04/17
"I never use one of algebra's most famous formulas, the...
Flirting provocative stage
  11/04/17
Almost all the "math" I run across is not really e...
swashbuckling volcanic crater
  11/04/17
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Flickering Fighting Nibblets Windowlicker
  11/04/17
Depends on whether you subscribe to the classic definition o...
swashbuckling volcanic crater
  11/04/17
According to this book, applied math basically falls into th...
Flirting provocative stage
  11/19/17
I have a math degree so I am as big a partisan of mathematic...
swashbuckling volcanic crater
  11/04/17
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Flickering Fighting Nibblets Windowlicker
  11/04/17
Then they should drop algebra to do more literacy.
swashbuckling volcanic crater
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Flickering Fighting Nibblets Windowlicker
  11/04/17
why not throw out all hard science while we're at it, probab...
Sienna house
  11/04/17
I don't see whats wrong with someone who goes to college wan...
swashbuckling volcanic crater
  11/04/17
so we're letting junior high kids pick their majors and care...
Sienna house
  11/04/17
If college was about people only studying what they might us...
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  01/11/18
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Tan Corner National Security Agency
  11/04/17
Might be more useful to them in terms of getting a job than ...
swashbuckling volcanic crater
  11/04/17
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Tan Corner National Security Agency
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I think the Germans do education very well with their system...
swashbuckling volcanic crater
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Flickering Fighting Nibblets Windowlicker
  11/04/17
Germans respect blue collar work, dumbass.
Confused opaque piazza
  11/08/17
The idea of general ed requirements in a degree would seem q...
low-t startling jap
  11/04/17
he's right about rote memorization
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  11/08/17
If you’re learning math via rote memorization you’re doing i...
thriller red tank milk
  11/08/17
Cr
transparent offensive faggot firefighter
  11/08/17
People would be better off learning things like personal fin...
Flirting provocative stage
  11/08/17
Those wanting to review their pre-algebra may want to check ...
Flirting provocative stage
  01/11/18
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ebony half-breed point
  01/11/18
SUN'S UP, A LITTLE AFTER TWELVE MAKE BREAKFAST FOR MYSELF ...
Flirting provocative stage
  01/11/18
what's the answer to the polynomial simplification in the ar...
vermilion kitty cat main people
  01/11/18
[5(x-3)]/[x^2(y+6)], I think
soul-stirring dingle berry plaza
  01/11/18
Libs won’t be happy until all real learning is canned in fav...
cracking geriatric stage patrolman
  01/11/18
"Libs" "happy"
Flirting provocative stage
  01/11/18
Math is one of the fundamental keys to understanding the wor...
Adulterous spot
  01/11/18
yep
Flirting provocative stage
  01/11/18
I hated linear algebra and multivariable calculus, but its a...
Amber station giraffe
  01/11/18
yep sounds pretty practical
Flirting provocative stage
  01/11/18
For many, college needs to be retired as a requirement.
sinister hell
  04/20/18


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Date: July 2nd, 2017 7:06 AM
Author: ebony half-breed point

How necessary is intermediate algebra, a high school-level course on factoring trinomials, graphing exponential functions and memorizing formulas that most non-math or science students will rarely use in everyday life or for the rest of college?

http://www.latimes.com/local/education/la-me-intermediate-algebra-qa-20170630-htmlstory.html

"Diversity" leading to dumbing down of life.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33687803)



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Date: November 4th, 2017 5:48 AM
Author: silver step-uncle's house candlestick maker

half the college curriculum needs to go

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#34601502)



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Date: July 2nd, 2017 7:13 AM
Author: Crimson marvelous address corn cake

"intermediate" algebra sounds a lot like HS Algebra I.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33687806)



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Date: July 2nd, 2017 7:15 AM
Author: ebony half-breed point

http://www.smc.edu/AcademicPrograms/Mathematics/Documents/Course_Documents/M20_Final_Rev.pdf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33687807)



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Date: July 2nd, 2017 7:39 AM
Author: Crimson marvelous address corn cake

Look at all of that patriarchy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33687825)



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Date: July 18th, 2017 1:26 AM
Author: Chocolate macaca private investor



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Date: July 18th, 2017 1:57 AM
Author: Irate new version menage

Damn i can't remember how to do some of this. I'm gonna be useless by the time my kids are taking this shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33799943)



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Date: July 2nd, 2017 7:36 AM
Author: Clear useless brakes kitchen

But gender studies is a must take course, right?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33687820)



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Date: January 11th, 2018 8:03 AM
Author: ultramarine parlor

keep talking shit about gender theory

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Date: July 2nd, 2017 7:47 AM
Author: lilac fantasy-prone university

Doesn't stats use algebra too? What about the big push for every minority to be "coding"? If you can't do basic algebra, you don't have a prayer of being able to code an app.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33687830)



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Date: July 2nd, 2017 7:53 AM
Author: Clear useless brakes kitchen

Anyone going to a California public school is never going to do CS in the first place. It's all Mexicans now. They just need classes in custodial studies and security guard certification prep.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33687832)



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Date: November 8th, 2017 10:09 AM
Author: thriller red tank milk



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Date: July 2nd, 2017 7:54 AM
Author: hideous casino sound barrier

This is why we need a "vocational track".

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33687833)



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Date: July 2nd, 2017 7:54 AM
Author: Clear useless brakes kitchen

This is why Idiocracy was a 180 as fuck movie.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33687834)



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Date: July 2nd, 2017 7:58 AM
Author: Clear useless brakes kitchen

Good luck with that in an age of automation, bro. Gazprom has a new undersea welding robot that's going to put 99% of its underwater welders out of a job. Underwater welding was like a $100 an hour gig. Every remotely decent vocational gig is going to a robot in the next 30 years.



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Date: July 2nd, 2017 7:56 AM
Author: Clear useless brakes kitchen

I knew shit was going to get bad when they stopped teaching kids cursive so now we have a whole generation that cant even sign their own names with a freakin pen properly. Kids who couldnt bother to learn cursive cant be bothered to learn quadratic equations. Shit is a slippery slope. Meanwhile in China they come out of HS knowing more math than ARE math majors. LJL at America's future.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33687837)



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Date: July 2nd, 2017 7:57 AM
Author: ebony half-breed point

DESCRIBE russian cursive

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Date: July 2nd, 2017 8:12 AM
Author: Crimson marvelous address corn cake

http://i.imgur.com/OxRbnYU.jpg

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Date: July 2nd, 2017 9:11 AM
Author: Mentally impaired sanctuary yarmulke

i LOL'd

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33687942)



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Date: July 2nd, 2017 9:12 AM
Author: ebony half-breed point



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Date: July 18th, 2017 3:21 AM
Author: Poppy fluffy doctorate theatre



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Date: November 4th, 2017 3:46 AM
Author: Vivacious abusive orchestra pit newt

180

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Date: January 11th, 2018 4:54 AM
Author: onyx ape



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Date: January 11th, 2018 4:57 AM
Author: soul-stirring dingle berry plaza

lmao

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Date: January 11th, 2018 7:46 AM
Author: Boyish genital piercing place of business



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Date: January 11th, 2018 1:48 PM
Author: chrome cheese-eating puppy den

In the computer age, who needs cursive.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#35132756)



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Date: July 2nd, 2017 7:58 AM
Author: mauve bossy dog poop

For shitliberal arts kids who will take only one math course, an equally rigorous stats course would be a better alternative, I think. It can really lend a lot of insight into life, and it might actually better prepare them to see though some of the bs they'll be served up in other classes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33687840)



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Date: July 2nd, 2017 8:00 AM
Author: Clear useless brakes kitchen

You generally cant get a liberal arts degree without 1 math course (usually Calc I) and stats. Stats is a requirement even at most TTT colleges. You cant do your senior thesis is most majors without stats and usually econometrics on top of stats 101. This is why doing away with Algebra I is retarded. You cant do stats 101 without Algebra I.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33687842)



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Date: July 2nd, 2017 8:05 AM
Author: mauve bossy dog poop

Guess you're right. It's just so basic to most of us that it's hard to believe the some kids need to taught it in college

Edit: OTOH, don't most of them have this under their belt, but they're too dumb to place into calc or even precalc, so they get relegated to repeating a high school course.

Most ttt schools I'm familiar with don't require stats for non social science majors

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33687844)



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Date: July 2nd, 2017 8:04 AM
Author: ebony half-breed point

If you can't do algebra you aren't doing shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33687843)



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Date: November 8th, 2017 10:29 AM
Author: electric box office



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Date: July 18th, 2017 1:27 AM
Author: sinister hell

They wouldn't be smart enough for stats, either. You think they'll be able to grasp basic conditional probability?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33799840)



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Date: July 2nd, 2017 9:00 AM
Author: charcoal erotic meetinghouse faggotry

lmao most people at my school took algebra in middle school

sad!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33687921)



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Date: July 2nd, 2017 9:15 AM
Author: Mentally impaired sanctuary yarmulke

i had algebra in 8th grade and calc BC in HS and I feel only extremely average in my MAFF skills

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33687956)



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Date: July 2nd, 2017 9:16 AM
Author: ebony half-breed point

Don't be shy, the phrase "extremely average" shows you are a mathematical fool. HTH.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33687960)



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Date: July 2nd, 2017 9:18 AM
Author: Drab Public Bath Azn

Hey bro how'd your math degree from UT work out for you? You're probably at some hedge fund or something right?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33687965)



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Date: July 18th, 2017 2:14 AM
Author: Hairless space

lmao brutal

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Date: July 18th, 2017 3:06 AM
Author: Wonderful lodge community account



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Date: November 8th, 2017 10:11 AM
Author: thriller red tank milk

lmao

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Date: January 11th, 2018 7:48 AM
Author: 180 bawdyhouse background story



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Date: July 2nd, 2017 9:46 AM
Author: Trip demanding headpube idiot

I flat out told my high school algebra teacher that I was never going to use this shit so why were they making me learn it.

Today, in my white collar non-STEM office job, I regularly have to solve for X and use basic algebra.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33688030)



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Date: July 18th, 2017 12:49 AM
Author: ebony half-breed point

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-california-community-colleges-algebra-20170717-story.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33799570)



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Date: July 18th, 2017 1:25 AM
Author: sinister hell

Algebra legitimately arises in ordinary professional and semi-professional life (e.g., solving for an unknown, working with interest rates).

If you can't do basic algebra (which is what they're really talking about), then the degree shouldn't be called a college degree of any sort.

It also happens that algebra requires the ability to engage in formal, abstract thought, which is precisely one of the things we expect a "college" graduate to be able to do.

If you can't do that, what you're learning is either worthless or should be called vocational training.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33799830)



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Date: July 18th, 2017 3:16 AM
Author: low-t startling jap

Twist: they all should be doing vocational training

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33800121)



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Date: January 11th, 2018 4:55 AM
Author: onyx ape



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Date: July 18th, 2017 1:27 AM
Author: Flirting provocative stage

can't remember the last time algebra or calculus was useful to me. better to learn stuff like personal finance and business, the legal system, healthcare, auto mechanics.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33799842)



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Date: July 18th, 2017 1:32 AM
Author: sinister hell

You've never calculated accrual of interest over time or asked what rate you'll need to reach a goal? You've never solved for an unknown?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33799877)



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Date: July 18th, 2017 1:43 AM
Author: Flirting provocative stage

they have web calculators for that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33799926)



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Date: July 18th, 2017 2:25 AM
Author: sinister hell

Dumbs wouldn't even know how to frame the issue and ask the question.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33800024)



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Date: July 18th, 2017 3:11 AM
Author: cerebral rehab philosopher-king

how are they going to do their chemistry and physics classes without basic algebra?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33800112)



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Date: July 18th, 2017 3:39 AM
Author: sinister hell

Tools of the cishetero patriarchy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33800147)



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Date: July 30th, 2017 8:57 PM
Author: Flirting provocative stage

"Back in the 1950s, Chuck Berry recorded 'School Days,' a song about the life of a typical high school student. It included the lines 'American history, practical math, you studyin' hard and hopin' to pass.' Practical math back then was a bedrock course in American high schools. You can still find courses in practical math today, but mostly in vocational or trade schools."

"What happened to practical math? The one-word answer is Sputnik. The threat from advanced technology developed by the Soviet Union created a fear of a missile gap, and the powers that be decided that a concerted effort should be made to push engineering, science, and math. Engineering and science use advanced math, and algebra is the language of advanced math. In an attempt to respond to the technological challenge of Sputnik, practical math got phased out, and algebra got phased in."

-The Smart Guide to Practical Math, by Jim Stein (2015)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33887252)



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Date: July 30th, 2017 9:48 PM
Author: Slimy histrionic depressive



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Date: November 4th, 2017 3:15 AM
Author: Turquoise Resort



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Date: November 8th, 2017 10:13 AM
Author: thriller red tank milk

Now listening to chuck berry all morning thank

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Date: July 30th, 2017 9:50 PM
Author: Henna abode potus

Good. A college degree will become a stigma.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33887479)



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Date: July 30th, 2017 9:57 PM
Author: spruce curious gaping

Makes sense. College is basically HS at this point. We need to cater to the lowest common denominator. Unfortunately.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33887508)



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Date: July 30th, 2017 10:06 PM
Author: well-lubricated massive native

That's not David Lat

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33887554)



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Date: July 30th, 2017 10:42 PM
Author: pea-brained dark roast beef

Teaching a pig to sing exasperates you and annoys the pig. Good riddance, dumbs only slow down the smart kids who want to learn. And like I have said before there is a huge gap between being able to "solve for x" on a test and being able to identify and formulate a real life problem in algebraic terms.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33887846)



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Date: July 30th, 2017 10:46 PM
Author: Mind-boggling Buff Gas Station Quadroon

Lol, it makes me mad that this shit is not on the SAT. It's basically a bunch of middle school level word problems, so you're ONE WRONG ARITHMETIC ERROR away from a 740.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33887888)



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Date: August 10th, 2017 1:08 PM
Author: Flirting provocative stage

"A good high school algebra course prepares you to do very well on the SAT test so that you can get into the college of your choice. It also helps you deal with problems involving trains headed toward each other at different speeds and their subsequent fates."

"And just to be as direct as possible about the shortcomings of traditional algebra course content, it's quite typical that even the better students aren't able to make basic financing decisions later. They can solve lots of goofy artificial problems about trains, but they can't tell when changes in interest rates mean that they should think about a mortgage refinance, and they believe amazing and fantastically contradictory probability results."

-Everyday Math for Dummies, by Charles Seiter

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33957084)



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Date: November 4th, 2017 3:00 AM
Author: Flirting provocative stage

"Pre-algebra is the culmination of the math that average people really use."

-The Complete Idiot's Guide to Pre-Algebra, by Szczepanski and Kositsky

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#34601204)



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Date: November 4th, 2017 3:02 AM
Author: Flirting provocative stage

"I never use one of algebra's most famous formulas, the quadratic formula, except when I'm teaching class. You certainly can find ways to use algebra and higher math in your everyday life if you try hard enough, but unless you're in a career that uses numbers, you can probably get away with avoiding it."

-ibid

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#34601209)



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Date: November 4th, 2017 3:26 AM
Author: swashbuckling volcanic crater

Almost all the "math" I run across is not really even math, its just arithmetic. Stuff like calculating the present value of future payments.

The most complicated math I have EVER encountered as a lawyer are the various formulas for valuing options (e.g. Black-Scholes PDEs).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#34601303)



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Date: November 4th, 2017 3:32 AM
Author: Flickering Fighting Nibblets Windowlicker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#34601313)



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Date: November 4th, 2017 3:35 AM
Author: swashbuckling volcanic crater

Depends on whether you subscribe to the classic definition of a college education or regard it as more like four years of training for the modern job market.

That classic education used to involve Latin/Greek and stuff like rhetoric and philosophy and I don't think they are requirements anymore.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#34601321)



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Date: November 19th, 2017 12:19 PM
Author: Flirting provocative stage

According to this book, applied math basically falls into three categories:

1. basic arithmetic, used routinely everyday, usually with a 4-function calculator

2. vocational math for skilled trades like electricians and construction work

3. the math used in scientific and technical fields

There arguably could be fourth category for business, financial and investing math.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#34723229)



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Date: November 4th, 2017 3:21 AM
Author: swashbuckling volcanic crater

I have a math degree so I am as big a partisan of mathematics and mathematical education as anyone but I don't really see the point of making algebra a compulsory subject for college.

Why make people who will very likely never ever use it study it? Wouldn't they be better off studying something that they might use?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#34601296)



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Date: November 4th, 2017 3:25 AM
Author: Flickering Fighting Nibblets Windowlicker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#34601301)



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Date: November 4th, 2017 3:29 AM
Author: swashbuckling volcanic crater

Then they should drop algebra to do more literacy.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#34601307)



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Date: November 4th, 2017 3:43 AM
Author: Flickering Fighting Nibblets Windowlicker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#34601339)



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Date: November 4th, 2017 3:33 AM
Author: Sienna house

why not throw out all hard science while we're at it, probably less than 2% of high school grads use chemistry or physics or bio

and why teach literature, just keep all english education to composition

and who "uses" history anyways

you learn things in high school not just b/c they're valuable but b/c we value them as a culture, or b/c it's important to "teach kids how to think" (e.g. scientifically or mathematically), or b/c they're necessary to move onto higher level work in that discipline, and it's valuable to teach kids those things to give them a chance to proceed to higher-level work

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#34601318)



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Date: November 4th, 2017 3:37 AM
Author: swashbuckling volcanic crater

I don't see whats wrong with someone who goes to college wanting to be say, an English teacher, not having to study any STEM subjects.

Just as if you want to be a mathematician why should you be forced to do anything other than mathematics? Why be forced to do some BS liberal arts subjects as fillers?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#34601325)



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Date: November 4th, 2017 3:44 AM
Author: Sienna house

so we're letting junior high kids pick their majors and careers now?

you didn't read my post. "usefulness" isn't the only reason we teach kids things. idgaf if a mathematician knows the details of the battle of hastings or remembers much shakespeare but he should be culturally-aware and should be taught to express himself effectively. and idgaf if an english prof knows how to do matrix algebra but he should be forced to do math beyond what he might find "immediately useful" to learn to think mathematically and analytically, and god forbid we should expose him as a middle school student to valuable knowledge that he might enjoy and want to continue with.

exposure to new areas of knowledge and testing kids' intellectual limits is an important part of pre-college ed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#34601340)



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Date: January 11th, 2018 8:10 AM
Author: Adulterous spot

If college was about people only studying what they might use it would be two semesters max.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#35131196)



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Date: November 4th, 2017 3:36 AM
Author: Tan Corner National Security Agency



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#34601323)



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Date: November 4th, 2017 3:38 AM
Author: swashbuckling volcanic crater

Might be more useful to them in terms of getting a job than wasting four years on "communications", "gender theory" or "business studies".

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#34601329)



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Date: November 4th, 2017 3:39 AM
Author: Tan Corner National Security Agency



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#34601332)



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Date: November 4th, 2017 3:41 AM
Author: swashbuckling volcanic crater

I think the Germans do education very well with their system of technical tertiary education. Some of the more technical trades do require a decent brain.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#34601336)



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Date: November 4th, 2017 3:41 AM
Author: Flickering Fighting Nibblets Windowlicker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#34601337)



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Date: November 8th, 2017 10:14 AM
Author: Confused opaque piazza

Germans respect blue collar work, dumbass.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#34633579)



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Date: November 4th, 2017 5:35 AM
Author: low-t startling jap

The idea of general ed requirements in a degree would seem quite odd in most countries. The broad part of your education should be over after 18.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#34601484)



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Date: November 8th, 2017 10:10 AM
Author: transparent offensive faggot firefighter

he's right about rote memorization

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#34633558)



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Date: November 8th, 2017 10:16 AM
Author: thriller red tank milk

If you’re learning math via rote memorization you’re doing it wrong. You learn math by solving problems. Rote memorization is for biology.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#34633593)



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Date: November 8th, 2017 10:18 AM
Author: transparent offensive faggot firefighter

Cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#34633603)



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Date: November 8th, 2017 11:55 AM
Author: Flirting provocative stage

People would be better off learning things like personal finance, the legal system, health care, auto repair, home maintenance.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#34634448)



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Date: January 11th, 2018 4:34 AM
Author: Flirting provocative stage

Those wanting to review their pre-algebra may want to check out Math Doesn't Suck: How to Survive Middle School Math without Losing Your Mind or Breaking a Nail, by Danica McKellar. The author is an actress who I haven't heard of but she's been in some TV shows. The book is aimed at tween girls and is written in a chatty, informal way that some people might find helpful. Pre-algebra is basically fractions, decimals, and percents, and some related topics like unit conversions, proportions, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#35130808)



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Date: January 11th, 2018 4:36 AM
Author: ebony half-breed point



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#35130812)



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Date: January 11th, 2018 4:46 AM
Author: Flirting provocative stage

SUN'S UP, A LITTLE AFTER TWELVE

MAKE BREAKFAST FOR MYSELF

LEAVE THE WORK FOR SOMEONE ELSE

PEOPLE SAY, THEY SAY THAT IT'S JUST A PHASE

THEY TELL ME TO ACT MY AGE, WELL I AAAAAAAMMM!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#35130825)



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Date: January 11th, 2018 4:47 AM
Author: vermilion kitty cat main people

what's the answer to the polynomial simplification in the article?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#35130828)



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Date: January 11th, 2018 8:14 AM
Author: soul-stirring dingle berry plaza

[5(x-3)]/[x^2(y+6)], I think

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#35131209)



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Date: January 11th, 2018 7:59 AM
Author: cracking geriatric stage patrolman

Libs won’t be happy until all real learning is canned in favor of indoctrination and tranny/minority studies

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#35131165)



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Date: January 11th, 2018 1:41 PM
Author: Flirting provocative stage

"Libs"

"happy"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#35132700)



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Date: January 11th, 2018 8:08 AM
Author: Adulterous spot

Math is one of the fundamental keys to understanding the world.

Most people also don't need to know about the Golgi Apparatus or inert gasses in their everyday lives either. Should we cut biology and chemistry too?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#35131188)



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Date: January 11th, 2018 1:39 PM
Author: Flirting provocative stage

yep

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#35132684)



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Date: January 11th, 2018 1:53 PM
Author: Amber station giraffe

I hated linear algebra and multivariable calculus, but its actually pretty practical for statistics, machine learning, things like that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#35132783)



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Date: January 11th, 2018 2:04 PM
Author: Flirting provocative stage

yep sounds pretty practical

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#35132906)



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Date: April 20th, 2018 10:45 PM
Author: sinister hell

For many, college needs to be retired as a requirement.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#35886039)