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Was making 105K got job offer for 135K, gave 2 wks, current emplr: 150K counter
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Date: November 20th, 2017 5:45 PM Author: chestnut doobsian location I spent a year looking for jobs only to stay at my current employer with an added title ("promotion") and a salary bump to 150K which also increases my bonus and 401K match
their one ask as I wrote below: "commit to staying long term" so I said yes, but I'm an at will employee ... in 2-3 years if I leave, I can say it's been 5-6 good years here, I can't stay longer ... probably going to be pretty angry when I leave then, but c'mon
played some high stakes chicken but I was willing to walk and that's the key
anyone else ever do this |
Date: November 20th, 2017 5:46 PM Author: Light Mental Disorder fuck yes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803924&forum_id=2#34734235) |
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Date: November 20th, 2017 5:46 PM Author: Internet-worthy Aggressive Deer Antler Garrison 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803924&forum_id=2#34734239) |
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Date: November 20th, 2017 5:47 PM Author: chestnut doobsian location the deputy CEO was like "idk if we can match this (135K)"
CEO had a few years of clients saying nice shit about me, apparently told my boss no way can we lose (pumo), offer more
I was totally fucking stunned
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Date: November 20th, 2017 5:48 PM Author: Motley Corner Degenerate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803924&forum_id=2#34734246) |
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Date: November 20th, 2017 5:49 PM Author: chestnut doobsian location ty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803924&forum_id=2#34734254) |
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Date: November 20th, 2017 5:48 PM Author: chestnut doobsian location THEY HAD ONE ASK: "please commit to staying here for a longer term"
I said yes, naturally, but in 2-3 years if I find a better gig I'm going to tell them it's just time after having worked there 5-6 years .... probably will hurt my reference from them, but I plan to use clients as my reference instead
they probably think I intend to stay for 10 years, but I was like "are you asking me to sign something? I'm still an at will employee, right?"
"Yes."
So basically they asked me to "commit" but I really don't think I owe them shit years down the line. |
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Date: November 20th, 2017 5:51 PM Author: Exciting milky police squad office You don't owe them shit TODAY hombre. If in 6 months you get a better job offer it's time to skedaddle. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803924&forum_id=2#34734268) |
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Date: November 20th, 2017 5:52 PM Author: chestnut doobsian location and when they say "you promised to stay!" obviously they can't force me ... I guess the only downside is that I hurt the "relationship" for future references so I should find client ones as clients won't care (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803924&forum_id=2#34734281) |
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Date: November 20th, 2017 5:51 PM Author: walnut indirect expression cuckoldry "Sure, just write up an employment contract with that. Let's make it mututal."
"Oh, that's not what you had in mind, you still want an 'at will relationship?" |
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Date: November 20th, 2017 5:52 PM Author: chestnut doobsian location I literally said "I'm still an at will employee, right?" which obviously I am ... but I guess my point is that it's a completely non-binding agreement the only downside is that it hurts my relationship with them
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Date: November 20th, 2017 5:53 PM Author: Motley Corner Degenerate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803924&forum_id=2#34734290) |
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Date: November 20th, 2017 5:54 PM Author: chestnut doobsian location they might not even fucking remember
the problem is that my employer has a lot of "lifers" so to them it's weird to job hop but millennials need to
to me 3 years is a long time -- that will be one of my defenses, not that it matters, but I'll tell them 3 years in this industry is a "long time"
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Date: November 20th, 2017 5:53 PM Author: cream aphrodisiac field ladyboy You didn't play any chicken because you had another offer lined up. Congrats on the pay bump. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803924&forum_id=2#34734294) |
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Date: November 20th, 2017 5:54 PM Author: chestnut doobsian location I guess that's fair, it's more like I tried to flex leverage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803924&forum_id=2#34734301) |
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Date: November 20th, 2017 5:55 PM Author: Lemon hell dog poop Sick neg (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803924&forum_id=2#34734306) |
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Date: November 20th, 2017 6:49 PM Author: cream aphrodisiac field ladyboy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803924&forum_id=2#34734744) |
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Date: November 20th, 2017 5:54 PM Author: plum lascivious brethren bawdyhouse 180 but they were underpaying you bigly for a year (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803924&forum_id=2#34734298) |
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Date: November 20th, 2017 5:55 PM Author: chestnut doobsian location I think so but TBF I also finally "came of age" w/ my # of years and experience so it was time someone made me that offer ... I think I can make the claim that it was the moment on the axis when I should be paid more, not before the offer came (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803924&forum_id=2#34734303) |
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Date: November 20th, 2017 5:56 PM Author: plum lascivious brethren bawdyhouse my current employer undercuts everyone but ALWAYS matches any competing offers via promotions or raises, i'm told. i kind of just want to shop around for offers and get the salary bump (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803924&forum_id=2#34734312) |
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Date: November 20th, 2017 5:57 PM Author: chestnut doobsian location it's hilarious to me in some ways that's basically why I did all those job interviews and apps ... all just to get some HR person at a competitor to write me an offer letter (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803924&forum_id=2#34734323) |
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Date: November 20th, 2017 5:59 PM Author: plum lascivious brethren bawdyhouse ....which could easily be faked (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803924&forum_id=2#34734336) |
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Date: November 20th, 2017 6:15 PM Author: Rose Irradiated Shrine Giraffe Yeah and then when your employers says “see ya” You look like a shithead and your career is ruined at your current company (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803924&forum_id=2#34734480) |
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Date: November 20th, 2017 6:17 PM Author: plum lascivious brethren bawdyhouse Yes, but if you plan on quitting anyway it might be worth a try if youre balzy and DGAF (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803924&forum_id=2#34734499) |
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Date: November 20th, 2017 5:55 PM Author: Floppy cordovan business firm nibblets This bump will make a yuge difference in your compensation month to month. Congratulations. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803924&forum_id=2#34734308) |
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Date: November 20th, 2017 5:56 PM Author: chestnut doobsian location just in terms of take home? I know, it lets me save a lot more $$$
any thoughts on the "long time" commitment they made me "agree" to? I know I can leave whenever I want, but it'll probably piss them off, but if I stay 2-3 years I think that's sufficient |
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Date: November 20th, 2017 6:01 PM Author: Seedy Mauve Party Of The First Part who gives a shit. If the economy took a shit, they wouldn't have any problem letting you go if it came to that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803924&forum_id=2#34734352) |
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Date: November 20th, 2017 6:07 PM Author: chestnut doobsian location yeah, these are the obvious retorts, I just don't want bad relations because I genuinely like them but obviously at the end of the day im looking out for number one (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803924&forum_id=2#34734390) |
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Date: November 20th, 2017 6:08 PM Author: Seedy Mauve Party Of The First Part It sounds like there shouldn't be an issue as long as they keep paying you what you're worth. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803924&forum_id=2#34734399) |
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Date: November 20th, 2017 6:10 PM Author: chestnut doobsian location I'll probably never get another non-step raise (like i'll make about 153 next year, and so on) so I'll have to leave at some point to advance (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803924&forum_id=2#34734416) |
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Date: November 20th, 2017 5:56 PM Author: razzle haunting market What kind of jerb? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803924&forum_id=2#34734319) |
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Date: November 20th, 2017 5:57 PM Author: chestnut doobsian location "JD Advantage" I'm not a lawyer (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803924&forum_id=2#34734325) |
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Date: November 20th, 2017 6:01 PM Author: Swashbuckling pearly rehab yarmulke Congrats bro. I make $120k today and can only dream of one day making $150k. You're living the dream now. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803924&forum_id=2#34734349) |
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Date: November 20th, 2017 6:06 PM Author: chestnut doobsian location Problem will be the next step. I'm making more than market for my job so anything I'm qualified for over the next couple of years will never match the pay. I genuinely might be "stuck" for a while, so that's why I demanded a higher title, too, to rack up years with that on LinkedIn.
My end trajectory probably tops out between 200-250, so I'll need a double income life ... better cop a law shrew |
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Date: November 20th, 2017 6:08 PM Author: Swashbuckling pearly rehab yarmulke Yeah I'm kinda stuck because my employer offers better job security and benefits than anywhere else I could go. I won't really find a better employer in my line of work, even if I find a job that pays more.
Internal promotions are my only path and they are very stingy with internal promotion raises. They're happy to give me a fancier job title and small raise every few years, but realistically that's all I can expect until I'm much more senior. |
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Date: November 20th, 2017 6:10 PM Author: chestnut doobsian location Same here man. I have a lot of security, great benefits. I'm almost a prisoner, and it angers me how people basically assume if you stay at a place you're never able to be hired elsewhere.
How could I leave this? |
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Date: November 20th, 2017 6:12 PM Author: Swashbuckling pearly rehab yarmulke Yeah it's not like I am starving to death here on $120k. We can all think of cool things to do with an extra $30k of salary each year but I am in no urgent need of additional funds. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803924&forum_id=2#34734439) |
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Date: November 20th, 2017 6:13 PM Author: chestnut doobsian location if u live outside an expensive area, 120 can go far (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803924&forum_id=2#34734455) |
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Date: November 20th, 2017 6:16 PM Author: Rose Irradiated Shrine Giraffe Better become a polygamist (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803924&forum_id=2#34734489) |
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Date: November 20th, 2017 6:23 PM Author: Glittery brunch So all in you're looking at a ~60% comp increase. Congrats brother. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803924&forum_id=2#34734555) |
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Date: November 20th, 2017 7:18 PM Author: dun duck-like abode Congrats man.
If it was me,and I generally liked the people I worked with/for, I’d plan on staying at least 2-3 more years before looking outside again. |