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Date: December 3rd, 2017 8:47 PM Author: vibrant overrated whorehouse Calishitlawguru is an anomaly clearly. no way i can quit my job and find a way, after a full year to ramp up, to make 250k+. THERE ARE TONS OF PI ATTYS - each fighting for the same clients. Other fields are just as bad.
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Date: December 3rd, 2017 8:51 PM Author: Charismatic home Did you go solo yet? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3817065&forum_id=2#34831661) |
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Date: December 3rd, 2017 9:19 PM Author: Charismatic home Why do you think Tommy turdskin can make 300k (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3817065&forum_id=2#34831816) |
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Date: December 4th, 2017 1:20 AM Author: gay useless brakes I don't really think I'm an anomaly because of some inherent trait I have that other's don't. I just figured out the best system for doing what I do. Anyone can do it who has the balls to just make the plunge and the patience to give it 100% for a year. The reason a lot of PI attorneys fail is because their systems for running cases and bringing in business are terrible.
For example, I subbed out an attorney on a 10 million dollar case that I am doing with Nick Rowley. The client fired the old attorney because she didn't return the client's phone calls. That will be my biggest fee ever when it settles, likely seven figures. All because the shitty prior lawyer didn't know how to run her business.
Edit: If you dropped me in another city in California where I knew no one (for example San Diego), I could get back to where I am in a few years doing the same shit I'm doing now. |
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Date: December 4th, 2017 1:30 AM Author: vibrant overrated whorehouse out of curiosity, what makes CA a favorable state for plaintiffs side PI work? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3817065&forum_id=2#34833660) |
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Date: December 4th, 2017 1:35 AM Author: gay useless brakes California has tens of millions of people/cars, lots of car accidents, favorable jury verdicts (even though everyone knows these cases are bullshit), doctors that treat on a lien with insane bills, and California isn't a bullshit No Fault state like Florida or NYC. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3817065&forum_id=2#34833685) |
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Date: December 4th, 2017 1:39 AM Author: vibrant overrated whorehouse how many hrs per week would you advise someone to spend in the first year to appropriately ramp up as you suggest? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3817065&forum_id=2#34833717) |
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Date: December 4th, 2017 1:43 AM Author: gay useless brakes Honestly, 60-80. Anything less and you aren't giving it your all. But a lot of that time is really client development and just hanging out with different people. It also get's better as your firm ramps up and you get help. I have two full time paralegals now and about 300 active files. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3817065&forum_id=2#34833734) |
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Date: December 4th, 2017 1:48 AM Author: vibrant overrated whorehouse can you give some high level pointers re client development for a new PI solo with no contacts?
and thanks, btw. |
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Date: December 4th, 2017 1:58 AM Author: gay useless brakes Here is a quick cliff notes version of stuff I have already posted.
1. Buy 2000 business cards from Vista Print. Every time you meet a new person (no matter the situation), make sure you bring up the fact you are an attorney that does PI. A good way to do this is ask them what they do. They will in turn, ask you too. Give them a good story (or just make one up) of a memorable PI case. Hand them a business card. This is where I get the majority of my business. This is a numbers game. I probably have 10,000 cards floating out in LA right now. Even if you get a 5% rate of return you get tons of business. It's just a numbers game (just like hitting on girls).
2. Networking with attorneys is usually a waste of time. You are better off networking with normal people who will actually give you their cases. Some great places are bars, gyms, uber drivers, hair salons, waiters, your personal doctors (and their staff), clubs, and pretty much anywhere where you meet a high volume of people in a short period of time. I mentored someone who is going to make 400-500K this year and most of his business was from girls he hit on and got shot down by at clubs. He always got them a business card though. That was 90% of his business development (and he is a shitty attorney).
3. Become a subject matter expert and give talks at sororities/frats. I gave about 20 talks at UCLA over 2 years and handed out my cards to about 1,000 students during those talks.
4. Network with tow truck drivers, body shops, and insurance agents. I'm sure you can figure out what needs to be done on this one.
5. Don't waste money on Yoddle, AVVO, SEO consulting, Google PPC or any other online marketing that charges. Unless you are going to spend 50K+ per month, there are lots of other people out there who will outspend you and you will not make money. |
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Date: December 4th, 2017 2:08 AM Author: vibrant overrated whorehouse really valuable. do you recommend any resources in particular to become a subject matter expert? my current practice is not anything like PI. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3817065&forum_id=2#34833869) |
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Date: December 4th, 2017 2:10 AM Author: gay useless brakes What state are you in? PI is easy (unless you are in a no fault state, then it fucking sucks). I can give you a basic run down in 30-45 minutes over the phone. I kind of learned it by just taking on cases and figuring it out, so I couldn't recommend any particular resource. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3817065&forum_id=2#34833880) |
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Date: December 4th, 2017 6:33 PM Author: mewling multi-colored center jew Any advice for someone in a no fault state who bigly wants to follow your path? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3817065&forum_id=2#34839186) |
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Date: December 4th, 2017 6:38 PM Author: lilac maniacal mad-dog skullcap lettuce (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3817065&forum_id=2#34839216) |
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Date: December 4th, 2017 6:46 PM Author: gay useless brakes I don't really know how attorneys make good money in no fault states. I can ask some friends but I think it is way more difficult to get the same level of success. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3817065&forum_id=2#34839287) |
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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:42 PM Author: bipolar theater stage laser beams (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3817065&forum_id=2#35638478) |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 6:07 PM Author: twinkling step-uncle's house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3817065&forum_id=2#36032356) |
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Date: December 4th, 2017 2:14 AM Author: Misanthropic Indian Lodge "I mentored someone who is going to make 400-500K this year and most of his business was from girls he hit on and got shot down by at clubs. He always got them a business card though. That was 90% of his business development (and he is a shitty attorney)."
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Date: December 4th, 2017 2:18 PM Author: Charismatic home How do you set up the frat meetings? Did you just do DUI info sessions? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3817065&forum_id=2#34837036) |
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Date: December 4th, 2017 3:42 PM Author: frozen partner rather set up some sorority meetings. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3817065&forum_id=2#34837799) |
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Date: December 4th, 2017 3:46 PM Author: 180 Disturbing Hospital I know people who did this. They basically just called or emailed the frat presidents of a bunch of frats and offered to show up at their chapter meeting to do a 10 minute presentation on drinking and DUI laws. They did their speech, answered questions, and left 100 biz cards at the frat. They got business out of it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3817065&forum_id=2#34837824) |
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Date: December 4th, 2017 6:07 PM Author: gay useless brakes I did that when I used to do criminal too. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3817065&forum_id=2#34839026) |
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Date: December 4th, 2017 2:34 PM Author: garnet telephone (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3817065&forum_id=2#34837134) |
Date: December 3rd, 2017 8:50 PM Author: Charismatic home If anyone here thinks they can be him easily, they are wrong. His personality is the opposite of an average poaster.
1. CSLG is literally the smartest guy in his field. He is smarter (via academic credentials) and harder working than 99.99% of PI attorneys.
2. He is very charismatic and sociable, unlike almost everyone here. He instills confidence in his clients.
3. He is incredibly organized. |
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Date: December 3rd, 2017 9:20 PM Author: Beta carmine stain Lol didn’t he go to a non-t14 school? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3817065&forum_id=2#34831828) |
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Date: December 3rd, 2017 10:53 PM Author: saffron yapping dingle berry he went to Pomona (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3817065&forum_id=2#34832668) |
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Date: December 4th, 2017 1:21 AM Author: gay useless brakes I was just outside T14. But I was on law review and order of the coif. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3817065&forum_id=2#34833591) |
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Date: December 4th, 2017 1:26 AM Author: Chocolate Windowlicker Did you do biglaw/trial experience? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3817065&forum_id=2#34833614) |
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Date: December 4th, 2017 1:34 AM Author: gay useless brakes I summered at a big firm. I ended up leaving at 4pm every day and I missed pretty much all the summer associate events. It was depressing being there and I realized the first week that 160K a year was nothing for how much big law ruins your life. So I just called it in and collected my 30K over the summer. I think I did one actual assignment the entire 10 weeks. I never worked at a firm that did PI. My first job out of law school wasn't even a law job.
I've done 13 trials. |
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Date: December 4th, 2017 1:35 AM Author: Cobalt international law enforcement agency police squad Do a thread on what a trial is like, for non trialmos.
Anything like "A few good men?" |
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Date: December 4th, 2017 1:37 AM Author: gay useless brakes My next trial is supposed to start Feb 9. Case is against Allstate. Client was in a low speed rear end accident. About $1,000 in PD. Client has a shoulder tear that needs surgery. They claim there is no causation. Top offer is 20K. Our last demand was 50K. Neither side is moving. You are welcome to come if you want.
Trial is fun, but not that exciting. |
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Date: December 4th, 2017 9:24 PM Author: Cobalt international law enforcement agency police squad flying in. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3817065&forum_id=2#34840395) |
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Date: December 4th, 2017 1:36 AM Author: frozen partner 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3817065&forum_id=2#34833695) |
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Date: December 4th, 2017 1:42 AM Author: swollen keepsake machete so ucla, maybe usc (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3817065&forum_id=2#34833732) |
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Date: December 4th, 2017 2:21 AM Author: gay useless brakes I graduated law school with a 3.97. I never bought books (I just memorized outlines). Fun fact, I dropped out of high school senior year lol. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3817065&forum_id=2#34833923) |
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Date: December 4th, 2017 8:15 AM Author: Charismatic home I've handled hundreds of shitlaw cases and the number of T20 attorneys you face is minimal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3817065&forum_id=2#34834725) |
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Date: December 3rd, 2017 10:53 PM Author: vibrant overrated whorehouse then why are you even considering leaving a steady paycheck? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3817065&forum_id=2#34832663) |
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Date: December 4th, 2017 8:10 AM Author: Charismatic home i make 100k, CSLG is going to make 1.5k +
There are numbers in between that
I don't need to be CSLG or even close to be a successful solo
a dude who has been where I work for 30 years showed me his salary, it's only like 130k plus good benefits, that's depressing |
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Date: December 3rd, 2017 10:52 PM Author: vibrant overrated whorehouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3817065&forum_id=2#34832661) |
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Date: December 4th, 2017 1:37 AM Author: mustard psychic plaza More poo poo. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3817065&forum_id=2#34833698) |
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Date: December 4th, 2017 8:10 AM Author: Insecure scarlet crotch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3817065&forum_id=2#34834715) |
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Date: December 4th, 2017 10:18 AM Author: comical electric furnace Geography matters - CSG and TT both work in California. Crazy juries plus very high defense costs means it makes sense for companies to settle out quickly. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3817065&forum_id=2#34835175) |
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Date: December 4th, 2017 1:37 PM Author: vibrant overrated whorehouse Calishitlawguru,
please respond to his HYPO:
You are quitting your job in 60 days. You don't have too much experience in the PI field. Your 2,000 business cards arrived today. You haven't set up a website yet. What do you do in the next 60 days and in the 60 days after you launch your solo biz to maximize the potential for immediate or near-immediate success?
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Date: December 4th, 2017 2:17 PM Author: Charismatic home TT uses google adwords
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Date: December 4th, 2017 2:23 PM Author: vibrant overrated whorehouse Which ones though? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3817065&forum_id=2#34837069) |
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Date: December 4th, 2017 2:28 PM Author: Charismatic home Are you in Cali? What area do you want to practice? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3817065&forum_id=2#34837102) |
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Date: December 4th, 2017 3:41 PM Author: gay useless brakes Adwords for PI in California is just throwing money away unless you have a huge budget. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3817065&forum_id=2#34837786) |
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Date: December 4th, 2017 6:40 PM Author: Indecent Alcoholic Gas Station Personal Credit Line chandler is literally retarded. r u sure about taking him under your wing? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3817065&forum_id=2#34839224) |
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Date: December 4th, 2017 6:45 PM Author: Charismatic home My IQ is 200+ I'm incredibly smart (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3817065&forum_id=2#34839269) |
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Date: December 4th, 2017 6:34 PM Author: frozen partner JUICE (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3817065&forum_id=2#34839199) |
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Date: December 4th, 2017 3:55 PM Author: vibrant overrated whorehouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3817065&forum_id=2#34837943) |
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Date: December 4th, 2017 5:17 PM Author: vibrant overrated whorehouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3817065&forum_id=2#34838688) |
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Date: December 4th, 2017 6:18 PM Author: vibrant overrated whorehouse Calishitlawguru, thoughts on this? THANK YOU (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3817065&forum_id=2#34839103) |
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Date: December 4th, 2017 6:19 PM Author: Indigo Field he's answered this a few times already. I think he even gave a numbered list of next steps after starting a solo practice. search for his moniker bro (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3817065&forum_id=2#34839109) |
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Date: December 4th, 2017 6:23 PM Author: Indigo Field nm he posted it above itt (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3817065&forum_id=2#34839145) |
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Date: December 4th, 2017 6:47 PM Author: gay useless brakes E-mail me and we can chat. I'm super swamped today and I had 6 new cases come in before noon. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3817065&forum_id=2#34839292) |
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Date: December 4th, 2017 6:49 PM Author: Charismatic home Jesus Christ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3817065&forum_id=2#34839302) |
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Date: December 4th, 2017 8:59 PM Author: gay useless brakes My couple huge cases aside, I should net over 2 million next year based on my current projections.
I started this year getting 10-15 new cases per month. I'm up to 25-30 per month right now. |
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Date: March 18th, 2018 6:54 PM Author: lilac maniacal mad-dog skullcap lettuce (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3817065&forum_id=2#35633335) |
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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:35 PM Author: vibrant overrated whorehouse OP here. Still fearful but quitting in 2 days. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3817065&forum_id=2#35638423) |
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Date: April 19th, 2018 3:29 PM Author: vibrant overrated whorehouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3817065&forum_id=2#35875980) |
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Date: April 19th, 2018 5:09 PM Author: vibrant overrated whorehouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3817065&forum_id=2#35876576) |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 6:24 PM Author: floppy effete lodge (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3817065&forum_id=2#36032476) |
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Date: March 26th, 2018 11:21 AM Author: lilac maniacal mad-dog skullcap lettuce (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3817065&forum_id=2#35690892) |