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California to ban leaf blowers
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Date: December 9th, 2017 1:53 PM Author: Misunderstood Fragrant Keepsake Machete University https://www.npr.org/2017/02/28/517576431/california-weighs-tougher-emissions-rules-for-gas-powered-garden-equipment
HAHAHAHA! Fuck these douches. |
Date: December 9th, 2017 1:56 PM Author: umber nighttime public bath reading party Leaf blowers must be the stupidest goddamn thing. Are they used at all outside of the USA? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34875907) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 1:56 PM Author: Nofapping Pearly Center Digit Ratio i thought that for years until i rented a house with four mature oak trees (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34875909) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 1:57 PM Author: Misunderstood Fragrant Keepsake Machete University Nobody has yards as big as Yankee yards so not really. In NYC they barely exist and when they do exist it's usually the electric kind. ARE NYC yards are like 150sq feet. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34875914) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 2:09 PM Author: Vigorous love of her life orchestra pit I use mine all the time. It’s 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34875989) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 2:04 PM Author: Motley Crotch Market (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34875950) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 2:05 PM Author: scarlet hot theatre they are going to kills lots of jobs for mexicans (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34875965) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 2:10 PM Author: Vigorous love of her life orchestra pit Opposite. Now they have to use rakes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34875992) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 2:12 PM Author: Misunderstood Fragrant Keepsake Machete University Exactly. This is being done to make the slaves more $$$. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876008) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 2:17 PM Author: scarlet hot theatre then that wouldn't really make them slaves. i mean, most don't pay taxes. most get free public services for their kids like schools, healthcare, foodstamps. It's the hardworking taxpayer who toils day in day out and gets 30-40 percent of his salary taken away from the government. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876046) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 2:10 PM Author: cerebral school huge reptile here, but this is a CREDITED policy. leaf blowers contribute little and run up a huge carbon bill. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34875991) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 2:12 PM Author: Misunderstood Fragrant Keepsake Machete University It's a 2 stroke engine with like half a horse power to it that you run for at best 20 minutes once a week. It's emitting jack all. You burn maybe 1-1.5 gallons every 3 months running the thing. This is just being done to drive up the cost of hiring Mexican slaves and to get them a higher wage when they tell you they have to rake all that shit by hand now. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876005) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 2:19 PM Author: avocado resort gaping Landscaping companies run them for 16 hours a day, 7 days a week. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876056) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 2:22 PM Author: Misunderstood Fragrant Keepsake Machete University Thankfully we dont all work for landscaping companies. The per capita impact of leaf blowers is jack all. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876074) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 2:24 PM Author: avocado resort gaping They're looking at all small engines, which cumulatively put off a ton of polution, not just leaf blowers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876086) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 2:58 PM Author: idiotic locale sex offender And now they can transport more landscapers, which burns more fuel. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876315) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 2:58 PM Author: umber nighttime public bath reading party https://www.citylab.com/life/2016/11/the-case-against-neighbors-with-leaf-blowers/506324/
“Simplest benchmark: running a leafblower for 30 minutes creates more emissions than driving a F-150 pickup truck 3800 miles,” |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 3:00 PM Author: idiotic locale sex offender If so, that's pretty fucking dirty. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876324) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 3:33 PM Author: glittery temple jewess "emissions," without additional clarification, is a worthless descriptor of what is being measured. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876471) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 3:37 PM Author: Apoplectic piazza preventive strike (twitter feed of stank shrew who just gassed 16 people on an elevator) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876511) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 6:45 PM Author: stirring spot idiot 923849234924 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34877668) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 4:43 PM Author: Cream half-breed corner There is no definition of "emissions" for which this is acceptable. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34877011) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 7:01 PM Author: glittery temple jewess Of course there is. Most leaf blowers are 2-cycle engines. I would be shocked if simple 2-cycle engines don't have a very different emissions profile than 4-cycle engines. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34877768) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 2:15 PM Author: Vigorous love of her life orchestra pit Come on man. I have a quarter acre with a bunch of trees and it’s absolutey vital to my yard maintenance. I don’t buy any “pollution” arguments (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876023) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 2:15 PM Author: contagious base Just get an electrical one with an extension cord. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876027) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 2:16 PM Author: Vigorous love of her life orchestra pit Pain in the ass. Parts of my yard are over 100 feet from any outlet (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876038) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 2:17 PM Author: vivacious puppy business firm they make cords that long (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876043) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 2:17 PM Author: Misunderstood Fragrant Keepsake Machete University Just do an extension cord that runs 500 feet. LJL. The electric ones are only okay in places like NYC. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876040) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 2:20 PM Author: Vigorous love of her life orchestra pit Also electric ones are weak. Night and day between even a plug in one and gas. Don’t even get me started on the rechargeable ones.
I say this as someone forced to blow foot deep leaf coverage into piles every year, even my gas powered one had trouble |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 2:34 PM Author: glittery temple jewess For big leaf jobs, the lower powered backpack leaf blowers are minimally sufficient. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876162) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 6:53 PM Author: Coral insecure box office why are you running around with some sorry pink leafblower instead of riding around on a massive mulching hog while drinking a beer? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34877716) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 2:32 PM Author: glittery temple jewess The lower powered leaf blowers are a waste of time for anything beyond blowing around grass clippings. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876146) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 2:21 PM Author: avocado resort gaping LOL. With a tiny lot like that you don't need a leaf blower.
If you're that much of a pansy about it, put a mulching blade on your mower and let the remnants rot in place. Your lawn will thank you for it. |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 2:27 PM Author: Vigorous love of her life orchestra pit I have like more than 10 full grown trees in my yard. It’s brutal in the fall (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876111) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 2:33 PM Author: glittery temple jewess I would seriously consider getting a leaf pickup attachment for a riding lawnmower. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876153) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 2:42 PM Author: cerebral school just let the leaves rot away naturally, like in the forest. it's good for wildlife and for the soil. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876217) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 3:02 PM Author: insanely creepy talented bawdyhouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876337) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 3:22 PM Author: Grizzly famous landscape painting headpube (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876424) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 2:52 PM Author: Olive organic girlfriend sanctuary LOL "reptile" here concerned about "carbon" lmao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876281) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 6:46 PM Author: Outnumbered Rusted Toilet Seat Stage “carbon bill” (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34877674) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 2:18 PM Author: avocado resort gaping 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876049) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 2:27 PM Author: Grizzly famous landscape painting headpube Why not just set a max carbon footprint each californian can leave every year, and if they exceed that heavy fines are imposed. That would make it clear that people with 5000 square foot homes taking chartered jets release exponentially more green house gasses than your average californian. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876110) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 2:28 PM Author: exciting milky bbw for that very reason b/c rich faggots are niggers who like to CRUSH the poormos under any premise |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 2:29 PM Author: Misunderstood Fragrant Keepsake Machete University Because the goal is not to penalize the rich -- just the upper middle class. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876120) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 2:32 PM Author: ungodly lay Bro, this isn't about global carbon pollution. It's about local air pollution from particulate matter, benzene, and formaldehyde. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876150) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 2:31 PM Author: ungodly lay While California often is a trend-setter in environmental regulation, other states won’t be following its lead this time. After California expanded its regulations in 2003, industry officials went to Congress to try to block the state’s authority to impose tougher-than-federal standards for small off-road engines. California managed to keep its authority to set such standards but, under a legislative compromise, other states were barred from doing the same. https://www.kcet.org/shows/socal-connected/california-throttles-down-pollution-from-small-engines Other states EMISSIONSCUCKED. |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 2:33 PM Author: black big native son of senegal those things spew out a lot of exhaust fumes/vapors (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876156) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 2:43 PM Author: ungodly lay Back in 2011, car reviewer Edmunds carried out an experiment comparing the emissions of a big Ford truck (an F-150 Raptor with a 411-horsepower V8 engine) to two different leaf blowers (one four-stroke and one two-stroke). They found that compared to the Ford truck, the four-stroke blower produced 6.8 times as much oxides of nitrogen (nitric oxide and nitrogen dioxide, highly reactive combustion byproducts that help form near-surface ozone, acid rain, and smog), 13.5 times as much carbon monoxide, and over 36 times as much non-methane hydrocarbons (mostly unburned gas, which is poisonous and carcinogenic). The two-stroke was substantially worse, producing only twice the oxides of nitrogen, but 23 times as much carbon monoxide and 299 times the non-methane hydrocarbons. They concluded:
To equal the hydrocarbon emissions of about a half-hour of yard work with this two-stroke leaf blower, you'd have to drive a Raptor for 3,887 miles, or the distance from Northern Texas to Anchorage, Alaska. [Edmunds] http://theweek.com/articles/739688/government-must-regulate-lawn-equipment-seriously |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 2:46 PM Author: Grizzly famous landscape painting headpube That is pretty bad. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876244) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 3:07 PM Author: vivacious puppy business firm 6.8 times what?? Per hour? per gallon? per year of estimated use? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876362) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 3:10 PM Author: umber nighttime public bath reading party Yeah fuck this shit. Get a rake. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876376) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 3:12 PM Author: Trip pale affirmative action If this is true, then "hydrocarbon emissions" are complete flame as a means of measuring pollution.
3,887 miles in an f150 is about 200 gallons of gas. I'm supposed to believe a quart of gas in a leaf blower emits several dozen times more pollution? |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 3:21 PM Author: idiotic locale sex offender That doesn't seem entirely crazy to me. Auto engines are much more sophisticated and have catalytic converters. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876422) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 3:22 PM Author: Transparent school cafeteria yeah it's almost like emission control systems do something (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876425) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 3:40 PM Author: Trip pale affirmative action lmao if you think running a leaf blower for 60 seconds emits more pollution than driving a huge truck from coast to coast (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876540) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 4:19 PM Author: Titillating mustard tanning salon flame. if this were true then how did people live in the 1950s? no pollution controls and LEADED gasoline FFS. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876823) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 4:23 PM Author: idiotic locale sex offender By the 60s and 70s, air pollution was a massive problem. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876876) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 4:27 PM Author: Titillating mustard tanning salon yeah LA smog and all that but if primitive emission controls = 50000x more emissions then the shit they suppress isn't very dangerous at all lmao. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876906) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 2:47 PM Author: Transparent school cafeteria good. and the faggots who run these loud ass things elsewhere because they are too fucking fat and worthless to pick up a fucking rake can get gassed along with the shitpits (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876250) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 2:52 PM Author: Vigorous love of her life orchestra pit (Not a homeowner with a yard) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876278) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 2:55 PM Author: Transparent school cafeteria (fat ass lazy prole who enjoys being a nuisance and destroying the planet) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876296) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 3:33 PM Author: bateful turdskin brunch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876474) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 3:37 PM Author: Transparent school cafeteria ^ how to be a deranged super adamant pro-life shitcon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876514) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 2:55 PM Author: Garnet Violent Pisswyrm having dry leaf litter around will only help reduce California wildfires!!!!!!!!!! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876294) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 2:57 PM Author: glittery temple jewess I wish SCOTUS would revisit its dormant commerce clause jurisprudence and pwn the fuck out of these California environmental regulations. Californians managed to fuck up gas cans, of all things, for the rest of us with their inane regulations. Enough is enough. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876305) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 3:00 PM Author: ungodly lay They have a GRANDFATHER clause. HTH. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876322) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 3:01 PM Author: Misunderstood Fragrant Keepsake Machete University You can tell how this board has aged when a leaf blower thread is the highlight of the day. LJL. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876332) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 3:03 PM Author: insanely creepy talented bawdyhouse 180 maybe ill move back. Used to be woken up by these fucking things every morning (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876340) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 3:05 PM Author: idiotic locale sex offender How do they compare to lawnmowers and trimmers? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876349) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 3:12 PM Author: idiotic locale sex offender "We expect that ozone-contributing pollutants from small off-road engines will exceed those same emissions from cars around the 2020 time frame," Benjamin says.
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That sounds like an issue worth addressing to me. |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 3:14 PM Author: ungodly lay (anti rolling coal cuck) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876389) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 3:14 PM Author: Trip pale affirmative action It's fake. There is no fucking way that is possibly true. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876391) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 3:24 PM Author: odious slate abode wrinkle I have never been sorry that I left California. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876427) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 3:31 PM Author: bateful turdskin brunch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876462) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 3:38 PM Author: Trip pale affirmative action Libs are coming for those next. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876524) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 3:38 PM Author: Apoplectic piazza preventive strike Overlap between leaf blower$ and mantit juice factory meat football fags? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876522) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 4:15 PM Author: flesh dysfunction guys who get anal about their yard are 100% producing more estrogen than their wife (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876788) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 4:18 PM Author: Apoplectic piazza preventive strike cr real men have forests or prairies and shit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876819) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 4:32 PM Author: Vigorous love of her life orchestra pit sorry libs, but the convenience of starting up my leaf blower and blowing off my entire driveway before work (roughly 150 feet) in like 3 minutes >>>>>> your "carbon footprint" arguments (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34876937) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 4:44 PM Author: insanely creepy talented bawdyhouse You must have a shitty lawn, mulching is 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34877024) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 4:54 PM Author: Blue Exhilarant Ratface Generalized Bond I was recently thinking about buying a small, battery powered leaf blower for blowing off my deck, driveway and garage - it would not be very powerful, but I leave the yard removal to the Mexicans. But, in just a few years, California's idiocy is likely to spread east, so I might as well get a full powered gas one now before it is too late. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34877093) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 4:59 PM Author: Misanthropic shaky goal in life California is the Mecca of posturing shitlibs. Measures like this are passed more to make a statement about just how shitlib people can become rather than actually helping anything (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34877112) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 7:10 PM Author: Blue Exhilarant Ratface Generalized Bond (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3822898&forum_id=2#34877836) |