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Date: December 14th, 2017 12:59 PM Author: passionate mauve gas station pervert
I'm strongly against this because now they'll shut down all pirating.
ISPs will simply refuse to deliver traffic to pirating websites.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828854&forum_id=2#34918182) |
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Date: December 14th, 2017 1:24 PM Author: passionate mauve gas station pervert
Explain. ISPs will be allowed to prioritize Internet traffic.
Common sense should tell you that they'll give torrent/pirating sites either the lowest priority, or no priority at all. I can explain this "common sense" if you don't understand it.
But I'll wait for your explanation first.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828854&forum_id=2#34918416) |
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Date: December 14th, 2017 1:58 PM Author: self-absorbed parlour
ok, I take this back having just gone through some of the final proposal here http://transition.fcc.gov/Daily_Releases/Daily_Business/2017/db1122/DOC-347927A1.pdf. Originally a complete repeal of title II wasn't contemplated but now it is, including the no-blocking/throttling rules. See 259. We find the no-blocking and no-throttling rules are unnecessary to prevent the harms that they were intended to thwart. We find that the transparency rule we adopt today coupled with our enforcement authority and with FTC enforcement of ISP commitments, antitrust law, consumer expectations, and ISP incentives will be sufficient to prevent these harms, particularly given the consensus against blocking practices, as reflected in the scarcity of actual cases of such blocking.
The FCC is making the argument that these rules are redundant because reinstating Title I gives authority to the FTC to enforce ISP commitments not to throttle and has heightened disclosure requirements which they think is enough to turn market forces against the ISPs. They seem to neglect the problem that consolidation of ISPs doesn't leave consumers with much alternatives, at least currently.
In short, torrenting is probably fucked.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828854&forum_id=2#34918694) |
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Date: December 14th, 2017 3:41 PM Author: passionate mauve gas station pervert
It will hurt all consumers. Internet prices will go up.
And yes, it will also hurt pirates.
It's going through so the ISPs can make more money.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828854&forum_id=2#34919623) |
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Date: December 14th, 2017 4:06 PM Author: passionate mauve gas station pervert
How does a VPN get around that?
That just hides your input (where you are accessing your connection).
It has nothing to do with your output (the sites you visit).
The ISPs will kill bandwidth to pirate sites, the output. So it doesn't matter what location you use to access the sites. They won't load no matter where you say you're from.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828854&forum_id=2#34919881) |
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Date: December 14th, 2017 4:13 PM Author: Cordovan piazza
Date: December 14th, 2017 4:06 PM
Author: lawman8
How does a VPN get around that?
That just hides your input (where you are accessing your connection).
It has nothing to do with your output (the sites you visit).
The ISPs will kill bandwidth to pirate sites, the output. So it doesn't matter what location you use to access the sites. They won't load no matter where you say you're from.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828854&forum_id=2#34919881)
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828854&forum_id=2#34919959) |
Date: December 14th, 2017 1:28 PM Author: Maroon library
which is more important to jews, getting money for their media content or pushing it out to as many viewers as possible?
we'll see what matters because of this deal, if they want exposure media will remain much the same, basically free.
if they want money they'll start charging for things and will get many less eyeballs as they used to.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828854&forum_id=2#34918454) |
Date: December 14th, 2017 3:43 PM Author: magical toilet seat den
Why didn't Trump find someone with a less obnoxious face?
Ajit is just a corporate stooge. Anyone could fill the position.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828854&forum_id=2#34919639) |
Date: December 14th, 2017 3:56 PM Author: Ungodly ultramarine ticket booth feces
I am strongly opposed to the repeal of Net Neutrality, but the current round of debate has been SPS, especially relative to the last time this topic was a popular issue. It has been a great example of the decline in discourse in this country.
The biggest drawback from a non-neutral internet is that it will all but rule out the possibility of new startups with business plans involving use of large amounts of bandwidth to deliver time-sensitive data, such as video and real-time audio or visual communications. Out of necessity, any such startup MUST be acquired by one of the established big players to leverage their established QoS agreements in order to roll out their product. In other words, the YouTubes and Facetimes of the world will become even more entrenched than they currently are.
The demise of Net Neutrality will also allow ISPs to capture more of the consumer surplus arising from current online products via de facto tolls based upon consumer demand for individual web services.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828854&forum_id=2#34919771) |
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Date: December 14th, 2017 11:11 PM Author: passionate mauve gas station pervert
You realize that you are just spouting ISP propaganda, right?
For the truth, look at this subthread:
http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828854&mc=90&forum_id=2#34920483
The ISPs WILL fuck us with this. There is literally zero benefit to the consumer.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828854&forum_id=2#34923722) |
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Date: December 14th, 2017 6:05 PM Author: Cordovan piazza
Wrong
"In early 2005, in the Madison River case, the FCC for the first time showed willingness to enforce its network neutrality principles by opening an investigation about Madison River Communications, a local telephone carrier that was blocking voice over IP service. Yet the FCC did not fine Madison River Communications. The investigation was closed before any formal factual or legal finding and there was a settlement in which the company agreed to stop discriminating against voice over IP traffic and to make a $15,000 payment to the US Treasury in exchange for the FCC dropping its inquiry.[28] Since the FCC did not formally establish that Madison River Communications violated laws and regulation, the Madison River settlement does not create a formal precedent. Nevertheless, the FCC's action established that it would take enforcement action in such situations."
"In August 2008, the FCC made its first Internet network management decision.[42] It voted 3-to-2 to uphold a complaint against Comcast ruling that it had illegally inhibited users of its high-speed Internet service from using file-sharing software because it throttled the bandwidth available to certain customers for video files to ensure that other customers had adequate bandwidth.[43][44] The FCC imposed no fine, but required Comcast to end such blocking in the year 2008, ordered Comcast to disclose the details of its network management practices within 30 days, submit a compliance plan for ending the offending practices by the end of the year, and disclose to the public the details of intended future practices. Then-FCC chairman Kevin J. Martin said the order was meant to set a precedent, that Internet providers and all communications companies could not prevent customers from using their networks the way they see fit, unless there is a good reason. In an interview Martin stated that "We are preserving the open character of the Internet" and "We are saying that network operators can't block people from getting access to any content and any applications." The case highlighted whether new legislation is needed to force Internet providers to maintain network neutrality, i.e., treat all uses of their networks equally. The legal complaint against Comcast was related to BitTorrent, software that is commonly used for downloading movies, television shows, music and software on the Internet.[45]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Net_neutrality_in_the_United_States
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3828854&forum_id=2#34920830) |
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