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Why is liberal California the poverty capital of America? [LATimes]

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-jackson-californi...
Vigorous Striped Hyena
  01/14/18
It’s as though welfare reform passed California by, leaving ...
lime church
  01/14/18
Lose some weight, you fat faggot.
thriller pea-brained set
  01/14/18
Many of these programs are not malicious and are well meanin...
Rough-skinned maize dilemma
  01/14/18
and yet socialism always ends up the same way- a failure. ...
lime church
  01/14/18
Lol. It's a vivid commentary on how fundamentally incompatib...
Wonderful Bright Resort Trust Fund
  03/19/18
(shitlib)
Narrow-minded Plum Stag Film Corn Cake
  03/19/18
Socialism is what’s being indoctrinated to kiids not capital...
Arousing Mint Giraffe Home
  03/19/18
ljl. Right, it's a really hard sell when socialists pretend...
Rambunctious property
  03/19/18
>> Any system ruled by political parties will always m...
canary useless chapel hominid
  03/19/18
LJL if you think "political parties"--as opposed t...
Wonderful Bright Resort Trust Fund
  03/19/18
is this the future Biden was talking about?
odious site
  01/14/18
The California government needs to be deposed
spectacular milky heaven skinny woman
  01/14/18
lol how did this get published
curious brunch roommate
  01/14/18
http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859064&mc=2...
marvelous haunting corner juggernaut
  01/14/18
San Francisco is literally infested with raving homeless peo...
Aphrodisiac indirect expression
  01/14/18
They'll still find a way to blame conservatives
Dull faggotry
  01/14/18
This is really an astonishing dynamic. The homeless populat...
Rambunctious property
  03/19/18
They did this in NYC under bloomberg and libs threw a fit. L...
Puce irradiated travel guidebook
  03/19/18
Yeah. A liberal is a man too open-minded to take his own si...
Rambunctious property
  03/19/18
Odd case.
lilac patrolman
  01/14/18
odd case
Multi-colored magical ape
  03/19/18
also has the highest GDP of any state in the nation. go figu...
Blue dog poop piazza
  03/19/18
It’s almost as if no amount of liberal redistribution can ev...
marvelous haunting corner juggernaut
  03/19/18
or negatively affect wealth
Blue dog poop piazza
  03/19/18
But see above re poverty rate
Multi-colored magical ape
  03/19/18
Almost as if recipients of social welfare spending are worse...
Beady-eyed turquoise lay
  03/19/18
lol more like it's almost as if ruling class technocrat wan...
arrogant soul-stirring old irish cottage den
  03/19/18
"California, with 12% of the American population, is ho...
naked gunner
  03/19/18
holy fuck
pearly aromatic tattoo boiling water
  03/19/18
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Multi-colored magical ape
  03/19/18
Moths to a flame
marvelous haunting corner juggernaut
  03/19/18
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Bronze Center
  03/19/18
titchwhs
arrogant soul-stirring old irish cottage den
  03/19/18
It’s probabky mostly weather, actually. Homeless people go w...
Geriatric vibrant generalized bond public bath
  03/19/18
And they also go where the benefits are. That's why a c...
Rambunctious property
  03/19/18
it's almost like a welfare state + open borders is disastrou...
canary useless chapel hominid
  03/19/18
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arrogant soul-stirring old irish cottage den
  03/19/18
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big-titted market french chef
  03/19/18
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Cocky Senate Psychic
  03/19/18
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Blathering hateful round eye rehab
  03/19/18
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Zombie-like carmine parlor potus
  03/19/18
i have a feeling that if you could make this look a LOT wors...
Geriatric vibrant generalized bond public bath
  03/19/18
...
razzle-dazzle learning disabled library persian
  03/19/18
receiving welfare is one of the strongest indicators you vot...
Hyperactive partner theatre
  03/19/18
truth be told we shouldn't allow people who receive welfare ...
canary useless chapel hominid
  03/19/18
Since 1920, the vast increase in welfare beneficiaries and t...
Hyperactive partner theatre
  03/19/18
Yes California significantly subsidizes the South. Odd case...
well-lubricated turdskin cuckold
  03/19/18
Did you even read the article
Rambunctious property
  03/19/18


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Date: January 14th, 2018 1:17 PM
Author: Vigorous Striped Hyena

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-jackson-california-poverty-20180114-story.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35153547)



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Date: January 14th, 2018 1:36 PM
Author: lime church

It’s as though welfare reform passed California by, leaving a dependency trap in place. Immigrants are falling into it: 55% of immigrant families in the state get some kind of means-tested benefits, compared with just 30% of natives.

Self-interest in the social-services community may be at fault. As economist William A. Niskanen explained back in 1971, public agencies seek to maximize their budgets, through which they acquire increased power, status, comfort and security. To keep growing its budget, and hence its power, a welfare bureaucracy has an incentive to expand its “customer” base.

scum democrats

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35153715)



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Date: January 14th, 2018 2:27 PM
Author: thriller pea-brained set

Lose some weight, you fat faggot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35154100)



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Date: January 14th, 2018 3:09 PM
Author: Rough-skinned maize dilemma

Many of these programs are not malicious and are well meaning, but they are not immune from trying to secure their own survival. Vicious cycle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35154398)



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Date: January 14th, 2018 3:55 PM
Author: lime church

and yet socialism always ends up the same way-

a failure.

there would be far fewer socialists here if our education system was better

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35154769)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:03 PM
Author: Wonderful Bright Resort Trust Fund

Lol. It's a vivid commentary on how fundamentally incompatible with human nature capitalism is when a substantial mass of the populace still prefers socialism in spite of the bourgeoisie's unrelenting efforts to indoctrinate them with a false consciousness.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638679)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:12 PM
Author: Narrow-minded Plum Stag Film Corn Cake

(shitlib)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638742)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:13 PM
Author: Arousing Mint Giraffe Home

Socialism is what’s being indoctrinated to kiids not capitalism. Moreover what we have today is not capitalism it’s a perverted mix of both.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638748)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:14 PM
Author: Rambunctious property

ljl. Right, it's a really hard sell when socialists pretend that free stuff is just another glorious socialist revolution away.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638752)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:17 PM
Author: canary useless chapel hominid

>> Any system ruled by political parties will always move to the left. Their business model is based on getting low status people to work for them. Obviously they must give them something in exchange. And they must motivate voters to vote for them. Their promise is simple: You, low status people, help us out, vote for us, obey our commands, and we will give you high status. Don’t vote for us, disobey us, let the right win, and you will remain low status. <<

https://bloodyshovel.wordpress.com/2017/12/13/bioleninism-the-first-step/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638774)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:40 PM
Author: Wonderful Bright Resort Trust Fund

LJL if you think "political parties"--as opposed to those parties' corporate paymasters-- have run this country's political system to any extent over the last 40 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638935)



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Date: January 14th, 2018 1:38 PM
Author: odious site

is this the future Biden was talking about?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35153722)



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Date: January 14th, 2018 1:54 PM
Author: spectacular milky heaven skinny woman

The California government needs to be deposed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35153834)



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Date: January 14th, 2018 2:13 PM
Author: curious brunch roommate

lol how did this get published

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35153983)



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Date: January 14th, 2018 2:16 PM
Author: marvelous haunting corner juggernaut

http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859064&mc=24&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35153994)



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Date: January 14th, 2018 2:29 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac indirect expression

San Francisco is literally infested with raving homeless people shitting in the streets and shooting up in front of million dollar apartments and offices of multi billion dollar companies



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35154124)



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Date: January 14th, 2018 3:50 PM
Author: Dull faggotry

They'll still find a way to blame conservatives

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35154717)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:43 PM
Author: Rambunctious property

This is really an astonishing dynamic. The homeless population is less than 1% of the city, yet the residents have collectively decided to completely cede the quality of their city to them. Imagine how much more pleasant SF would be if police actually enforced vagrancy laws and the government "encouraged" people to leave with free one way bus tickets out of town.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638483)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 5:03 PM
Author: Puce irradiated travel guidebook

They did this in NYC under bloomberg and libs threw a fit. LJL.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35639653)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 5:23 PM
Author: Rambunctious property

Yeah. A liberal is a man too open-minded to take his own side in a fight.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35639799)



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Date: January 14th, 2018 3:53 PM
Author: lilac patrolman

Odd case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35154744)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:39 PM
Author: Multi-colored magical ape

odd case

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638457)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:40 PM
Author: Blue dog poop piazza

also has the highest GDP of any state in the nation. go figure

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638463)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:42 PM
Author: marvelous haunting corner juggernaut

It’s almost as if no amount of liberal redistribution can ever solve poverty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638476)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:45 PM
Author: Blue dog poop piazza

or negatively affect wealth

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638494)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:50 PM
Author: Multi-colored magical ape

But see above re poverty rate

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638559)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:45 PM
Author: Beady-eyed turquoise lay

Almost as if recipients of social welfare spending are worse off

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638497)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:53 PM
Author: arrogant soul-stirring old irish cottage den

lol

more like it's almost as if ruling class technocrat wannabe libs are only interested in redistribution as a rhetorical tool allowing them to accumulate power by whipping up the masses for votes

yielding little to no benefit for said masses bc an astonishing number of any funds taken for redistribution are lost to corruption and incompetence = feature, not bug

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638583)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:45 PM
Author: naked gunner

"California, with 12% of the American population, is home today to about one in three of the nation's welfare recipients."

Haha. Wow. Holy shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638499)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:45 PM
Author: pearly aromatic tattoo boiling water

holy fuck

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638503)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:45 PM
Author: Multi-colored magical ape



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638504)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:49 PM
Author: marvelous haunting corner juggernaut

Moths to a flame

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638552)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:54 PM
Author: Bronze Center



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638598)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:55 PM
Author: arrogant soul-stirring old irish cottage den

titchwhs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638604)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:11 PM
Author: Geriatric vibrant generalized bond public bath

It’s probabky mostly weather, actually. Homeless people go where it’s warm year round.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638736)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:16 PM
Author: Rambunctious property

And they also go where the benefits are.

That's why a city or even a state can't fix homelessness-- even if they did, then new homeless would stream in.

It would be totally worth it for the federal government to build massive complexes where the land is cheap and, essentially, institutionalize the mentally ill, incarcerate the truly criminal, and just give cash and a place to get back on their feet to people who are truly just down on their luck. But between conservative unwillingness to spend money and shitlibs treating the homeless as a class above the law, this isn't anywhere close to happening. So here we sit, surrendering the quality of our cities for no good reason.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638762)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:19 PM
Author: canary useless chapel hominid

it's almost like a welfare state + open borders is disastrous

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638780)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 4:03 PM
Author: arrogant soul-stirring old irish cottage den



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35639147)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:16 PM
Author: big-titted market french chef



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638760)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:17 PM
Author: Cocky Senate Psychic



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638768)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:17 PM
Author: Blathering hateful round eye rehab



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638770)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:18 PM
Author: Zombie-like carmine parlor potus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638777)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:33 PM
Author: Geriatric vibrant generalized bond public bath

i have a feeling that if you could make this look a LOT worse by limiting it to just SF and LA.

Like they combined have like 2% of the country's population and like 25% of the homeless.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638874)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 5:06 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle learning disabled library persian



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35639672)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 4:05 PM
Author: Hyperactive partner theatre

receiving welfare is one of the strongest indicators you vote dem. odd case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35639164)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 5:13 PM
Author: canary useless chapel hominid

truth be told we shouldn't allow people who receive welfare to vote.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35639728)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 5:14 PM
Author: Hyperactive partner theatre

Since 1920, the vast increase in welfare beneficiaries and the extension of the franchise to women — two constituencies that are notoriously tough for libertarians — have rendered the notion of “capitalist democracy” into an oxymoron.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35639741)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 4:07 PM
Author: well-lubricated turdskin cuckold

Yes California significantly subsidizes the South. Odd case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35639174)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 4:18 PM
Author: Rambunctious property

Did you even read the article

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35639294)