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Why is liberal California the poverty capital of America? [LATimes]

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-jackson-californi...
Sickened Yapping Library Son Of Senegal
  01/14/18
It’s as though welfare reform passed California by, leaving ...
Misanthropic church half-breed
  01/14/18
Lose some weight, you fat faggot.
lavender volcanic crater lay
  01/14/18
Many of these programs are not malicious and are well meanin...
white temple pervert
  01/14/18
and yet socialism always ends up the same way- a failure. ...
Misanthropic church half-breed
  01/14/18
Lol. It's a vivid commentary on how fundamentally incompatib...
Slate sinister garrison coldplay fan
  03/19/18
(shitlib)
Swashbuckling trump supporter private investor
  03/19/18
Socialism is what’s being indoctrinated to kiids not capital...
Buck-toothed fat ankles hissy fit
  03/19/18
ljl. Right, it's a really hard sell when socialists pretend...
greedy stimulating sound barrier
  03/19/18
>> Any system ruled by political parties will always m...
vivacious persian pisswyrm
  03/19/18
LJL if you think "political parties"--as opposed t...
Slate sinister garrison coldplay fan
  03/19/18
is this the future Biden was talking about?
maize main people piazza
  01/14/18
The California government needs to be deposed
drab exhilarant double fault
  01/14/18
lol how did this get published
navy lascivious national laser beams
  01/14/18
http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859064&mc=2...
Insane forum police squad
  01/14/18
San Francisco is literally infested with raving homeless peo...
Comical puppy stead
  01/14/18
They'll still find a way to blame conservatives
drunken histrionic yarmulke hospital
  01/14/18
This is really an astonishing dynamic. The homeless populat...
greedy stimulating sound barrier
  03/19/18
They did this in NYC under bloomberg and libs threw a fit. L...
Green Tank Fortuitous Meteor
  03/19/18
Yeah. A liberal is a man too open-minded to take his own si...
greedy stimulating sound barrier
  03/19/18
Odd case.
bearded out-of-control fanboi lodge
  01/14/18
odd case
mint talented national security agency macaca
  03/19/18
also has the highest GDP of any state in the nation. go figu...
splenetic orchid regret
  03/19/18
It’s almost as if no amount of liberal redistribution can ev...
Insane forum police squad
  03/19/18
or negatively affect wealth
splenetic orchid regret
  03/19/18
But see above re poverty rate
mint talented national security agency macaca
  03/19/18
Almost as if recipients of social welfare spending are worse...
Cobalt crackhouse
  03/19/18
lol more like it's almost as if ruling class technocrat wan...
Charismatic quadroon
  03/19/18
"California, with 12% of the American population, is ho...
Cordovan Roast Beef Center
  03/19/18
holy fuck
confused brass dilemma
  03/19/18
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mint talented national security agency macaca
  03/19/18
Moths to a flame
Insane forum police squad
  03/19/18
...
Mahogany marvelous space
  03/19/18
titchwhs
Charismatic quadroon
  03/19/18
It’s probabky mostly weather, actually. Homeless people go w...
Awkward Spectacular Travel Guidebook University
  03/19/18
And they also go where the benefits are. That's why a c...
greedy stimulating sound barrier
  03/19/18
it's almost like a welfare state + open borders is disastrou...
vivacious persian pisswyrm
  03/19/18
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Charismatic quadroon
  03/19/18
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vengeful address
  03/19/18
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Motley base prole
  03/19/18
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Sick Dashing Range
  03/19/18
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Razzle tan principal's office giraffe
  03/19/18
i have a feeling that if you could make this look a LOT wors...
Awkward Spectacular Travel Guidebook University
  03/19/18
...
Fragrant Electric Furnace Gaming Laptop
  03/19/18
receiving welfare is one of the strongest indicators you vot...
Henna Hyperactive Ticket Booth Dingle Berry
  03/19/18
truth be told we shouldn't allow people who receive welfare ...
vivacious persian pisswyrm
  03/19/18
Since 1920, the vast increase in welfare beneficiaries and t...
Henna Hyperactive Ticket Booth Dingle Berry
  03/19/18
Yes California significantly subsidizes the South. Odd case...
Demanding Selfie
  03/19/18
Did you even read the article
greedy stimulating sound barrier
  03/19/18


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Date: January 14th, 2018 1:17 PM
Author: Sickened Yapping Library Son Of Senegal

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-jackson-california-poverty-20180114-story.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35153547)



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Date: January 14th, 2018 1:36 PM
Author: Misanthropic church half-breed

It’s as though welfare reform passed California by, leaving a dependency trap in place. Immigrants are falling into it: 55% of immigrant families in the state get some kind of means-tested benefits, compared with just 30% of natives.

Self-interest in the social-services community may be at fault. As economist William A. Niskanen explained back in 1971, public agencies seek to maximize their budgets, through which they acquire increased power, status, comfort and security. To keep growing its budget, and hence its power, a welfare bureaucracy has an incentive to expand its “customer” base.

scum democrats

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35153715)



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Date: January 14th, 2018 2:27 PM
Author: lavender volcanic crater lay

Lose some weight, you fat faggot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35154100)



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Date: January 14th, 2018 3:09 PM
Author: white temple pervert

Many of these programs are not malicious and are well meaning, but they are not immune from trying to secure their own survival. Vicious cycle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35154398)



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Date: January 14th, 2018 3:55 PM
Author: Misanthropic church half-breed

and yet socialism always ends up the same way-

a failure.

there would be far fewer socialists here if our education system was better

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35154769)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:03 PM
Author: Slate sinister garrison coldplay fan

Lol. It's a vivid commentary on how fundamentally incompatible with human nature capitalism is when a substantial mass of the populace still prefers socialism in spite of the bourgeoisie's unrelenting efforts to indoctrinate them with a false consciousness.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638679)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:12 PM
Author: Swashbuckling trump supporter private investor

(shitlib)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638742)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:13 PM
Author: Buck-toothed fat ankles hissy fit

Socialism is what’s being indoctrinated to kiids not capitalism. Moreover what we have today is not capitalism it’s a perverted mix of both.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638748)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:14 PM
Author: greedy stimulating sound barrier

ljl. Right, it's a really hard sell when socialists pretend that free stuff is just another glorious socialist revolution away.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638752)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:17 PM
Author: vivacious persian pisswyrm

>> Any system ruled by political parties will always move to the left. Their business model is based on getting low status people to work for them. Obviously they must give them something in exchange. And they must motivate voters to vote for them. Their promise is simple: You, low status people, help us out, vote for us, obey our commands, and we will give you high status. Don’t vote for us, disobey us, let the right win, and you will remain low status. <<

https://bloodyshovel.wordpress.com/2017/12/13/bioleninism-the-first-step/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638774)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:40 PM
Author: Slate sinister garrison coldplay fan

LJL if you think "political parties"--as opposed to those parties' corporate paymasters-- have run this country's political system to any extent over the last 40 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638935)



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Date: January 14th, 2018 1:38 PM
Author: maize main people piazza

is this the future Biden was talking about?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35153722)



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Date: January 14th, 2018 1:54 PM
Author: drab exhilarant double fault

The California government needs to be deposed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35153834)



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Date: January 14th, 2018 2:13 PM
Author: navy lascivious national laser beams

lol how did this get published

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35153983)



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Date: January 14th, 2018 2:16 PM
Author: Insane forum police squad

http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859064&mc=24&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35153994)



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Date: January 14th, 2018 2:29 PM
Author: Comical puppy stead

San Francisco is literally infested with raving homeless people shitting in the streets and shooting up in front of million dollar apartments and offices of multi billion dollar companies



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35154124)



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Date: January 14th, 2018 3:50 PM
Author: drunken histrionic yarmulke hospital

They'll still find a way to blame conservatives

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35154717)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:43 PM
Author: greedy stimulating sound barrier

This is really an astonishing dynamic. The homeless population is less than 1% of the city, yet the residents have collectively decided to completely cede the quality of their city to them. Imagine how much more pleasant SF would be if police actually enforced vagrancy laws and the government "encouraged" people to leave with free one way bus tickets out of town.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638483)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 5:03 PM
Author: Green Tank Fortuitous Meteor

They did this in NYC under bloomberg and libs threw a fit. LJL.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35639653)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 5:23 PM
Author: greedy stimulating sound barrier

Yeah. A liberal is a man too open-minded to take his own side in a fight.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35639799)



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Date: January 14th, 2018 3:53 PM
Author: bearded out-of-control fanboi lodge

Odd case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35154744)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:39 PM
Author: mint talented national security agency macaca

odd case

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638457)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:40 PM
Author: splenetic orchid regret

also has the highest GDP of any state in the nation. go figure

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638463)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:42 PM
Author: Insane forum police squad

It’s almost as if no amount of liberal redistribution can ever solve poverty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638476)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:45 PM
Author: splenetic orchid regret

or negatively affect wealth

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638494)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:50 PM
Author: mint talented national security agency macaca

But see above re poverty rate

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638559)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:45 PM
Author: Cobalt crackhouse

Almost as if recipients of social welfare spending are worse off

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638497)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:53 PM
Author: Charismatic quadroon

lol

more like it's almost as if ruling class technocrat wannabe libs are only interested in redistribution as a rhetorical tool allowing them to accumulate power by whipping up the masses for votes

yielding little to no benefit for said masses bc an astonishing number of any funds taken for redistribution are lost to corruption and incompetence = feature, not bug

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638583)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:45 PM
Author: Cordovan Roast Beef Center

"California, with 12% of the American population, is home today to about one in three of the nation's welfare recipients."

Haha. Wow. Holy shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638499)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:45 PM
Author: confused brass dilemma

holy fuck

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638503)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:45 PM
Author: mint talented national security agency macaca



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638504)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:49 PM
Author: Insane forum police squad

Moths to a flame

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638552)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:54 PM
Author: Mahogany marvelous space



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638598)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:55 PM
Author: Charismatic quadroon

titchwhs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638604)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:11 PM
Author: Awkward Spectacular Travel Guidebook University

It’s probabky mostly weather, actually. Homeless people go where it’s warm year round.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638736)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:16 PM
Author: greedy stimulating sound barrier

And they also go where the benefits are.

That's why a city or even a state can't fix homelessness-- even if they did, then new homeless would stream in.

It would be totally worth it for the federal government to build massive complexes where the land is cheap and, essentially, institutionalize the mentally ill, incarcerate the truly criminal, and just give cash and a place to get back on their feet to people who are truly just down on their luck. But between conservative unwillingness to spend money and shitlibs treating the homeless as a class above the law, this isn't anywhere close to happening. So here we sit, surrendering the quality of our cities for no good reason.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638762)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:19 PM
Author: vivacious persian pisswyrm

it's almost like a welfare state + open borders is disastrous

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638780)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 4:03 PM
Author: Charismatic quadroon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35639147)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:16 PM
Author: vengeful address



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638760)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:17 PM
Author: Motley base prole



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638768)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:17 PM
Author: Sick Dashing Range



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638770)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:18 PM
Author: Razzle tan principal's office giraffe



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638777)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:33 PM
Author: Awkward Spectacular Travel Guidebook University

i have a feeling that if you could make this look a LOT worse by limiting it to just SF and LA.

Like they combined have like 2% of the country's population and like 25% of the homeless.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638874)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 5:06 PM
Author: Fragrant Electric Furnace Gaming Laptop



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35639672)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 4:05 PM
Author: Henna Hyperactive Ticket Booth Dingle Berry

receiving welfare is one of the strongest indicators you vote dem. odd case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35639164)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 5:13 PM
Author: vivacious persian pisswyrm

truth be told we shouldn't allow people who receive welfare to vote.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35639728)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 5:14 PM
Author: Henna Hyperactive Ticket Booth Dingle Berry

Since 1920, the vast increase in welfare beneficiaries and the extension of the franchise to women — two constituencies that are notoriously tough for libertarians — have rendered the notion of “capitalist democracy” into an oxymoron.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35639741)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 4:07 PM
Author: Demanding Selfie

Yes California significantly subsidizes the South. Odd case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35639174)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 4:18 PM
Author: greedy stimulating sound barrier

Did you even read the article

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35639294)