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Do liberals believe merit should be irrelevant US immigration policy?

or even that we should select for the poor/dumb?
geriatric theatre
  01/17/18
hot 14 yr olds from norway have an inherent value that excee...
frozen pit
  01/17/18
we would already have open borders for women <25 BMI <...
Thirsty stock car abode
  01/17/18
reverse merit. it's reverse big willy style.
arousing lodge
  01/17/18
where in the Statue of Liberty Poem do you see the word meri...
fantasy-prone kitchen rigpig
  01/17/18
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Maniacal duck-like trailer park ratface
  01/17/18
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Saffron Ungodly Athletic Conference Field
  01/17/18
...
Swashbuckling impressive nursing home
  01/17/18
Merit is racist unless you're Canada
contagious masturbator
  01/17/18
Or Australian (29TP)
cerebral amber resort background story
  01/17/18
Hierarchies are RACIST (except for the part with Jews on top...
Multi-colored Pocket Flask
  01/17/18
They argue that merit shouldn’t be a factor, yes “We don’...
Swollen Cruise Ship Telephone
  01/17/18
But then why bring them in at all if not for what they can c...
geriatric theatre
  01/17/18
diversity
fantasy-prone kitchen rigpig
  01/17/18
that's news to you?
stimulating olive doctorate skinny woman
  01/17/18
Merit is racist
Submissive wonderful clown
  01/17/18
It always has been, and we’ve done just fine for a nation co...
hyperventilating shrine
  01/17/18
just do compare eras when we were short on unskilled labor t...
Black hideous generalized bond
  01/17/18
First, you're wrong when you say merit has always been irrel...
geriatric theatre
  01/17/18
in her defense Germans, Irish, Italians, and Slavs all assim...
primrose trust fund
  01/17/18
You’re describing every wave of immigration ever. Thanks for...
hyperventilating shrine
  01/17/18
you're only gonna respond to this one? thanks for playing
Black hideous generalized bond
  01/17/18
Respond to “this one”? What? Immigrants to the US have larg...
hyperventilating shrine
  01/17/18
great, so let's exclude refugees, who have not self-selected...
geriatric theatre
  01/17/18
Refugees are not immigrants in the traditional sense. If ...
hyperventilating shrine
  01/17/18
refugees desire to emigrate because they are too cowardly to...
Disrespectful doobsian coldplay fan range
  01/17/18
that's plainly not true. second wave of asians? persians?
geriatric theatre
  01/17/18
Is this some variation on the “this is how we did it in the ...
violent theater gunner
  01/17/18
No, this is the “the only thing that’s changed is your level...
hyperventilating shrine
  01/17/18
So the US economy hasnt changed at all since 1965? Weird.
violent theater gunner
  01/17/18
Has the economy gotten rougher for people on the the left si...
avocado library legal warrant
  01/17/18
??
violent theater gunner
  01/18/18
yes liberals love blindly adopting traditions when it suits ...
avocado library legal warrant
  01/17/18
No, we're actually doing pretty terrible right now because w...
Beta mediation
  01/17/18
It's as if pre 1965 immigration policy had a built in proxy ...
flesh very tactful brunch knife
  01/17/18
Link?
hyperventilating shrine
  01/17/18
Link? I thought everything was really awesome and the econo...
hyperventilating shrine
  01/17/18
DANCE INTO THE FIRE
stimulating olive doctorate skinny woman
  01/17/18
Lol
beady-eyed church
  01/17/18
...
stirring topaz karate
  01/17/18
to the contrary. we should focus on immigrants who are lacki...
avocado library legal warrant
  01/17/18
this is literally how libs think. empathy is are downfall
burgundy jet-lagged whorehouse really tough guy
  01/17/18
...
fantasy-prone kitchen rigpig
  01/17/18
"merit" is just white racism
diverse bronze cuck
  01/17/18
Meritocracy is white supremacy. I know because my Mexican s...
sick racy stead volcanic crater
  01/17/18
This is essentially the lib position, which is ironic becaus...
Swashbuckling impressive nursing home
  01/17/18
Democrats are primarily interested in immigration that enhan...
concupiscible tanning salon
  01/17/18
libs don’t think, they FEEL
sadistic digit ratio ceo
  01/17/18
Bringing people in with no skills means they'll be more like...
Swashbuckling impressive nursing home
  01/17/18


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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:36 PM
Author: geriatric theatre

or even that we should select for the poor/dumb?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177013)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:37 PM
Author: frozen pit

hot 14 yr olds from norway have an inherent value that exceeds anything a university can bestow.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177023)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:50 PM
Author: Thirsty stock car abode

we would already have open borders for women <25 BMI <22 believe me. it's the fault of the 19th amendment: frumpy housewives vote

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177136)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:38 PM
Author: arousing lodge

reverse merit.

it's reverse big willy style.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177034)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:38 PM
Author: fantasy-prone kitchen rigpig

where in the Statue of Liberty Poem do you see the word merit?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177037)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:54 PM
Author: Maniacal duck-like trailer park ratface



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177170)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:38 PM
Author: Saffron Ungodly Athletic Conference Field



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177546)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:52 PM
Author: Swashbuckling impressive nursing home



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177647)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:44 PM
Author: contagious masturbator

Merit is racist unless you're Canada

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177081)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:46 PM
Author: cerebral amber resort background story

Or Australian (29TP)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177106)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:44 PM
Author: Multi-colored Pocket Flask

Hierarchies are RACIST (except for the part with Jews on top -- that's fine)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177089)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:46 PM
Author: Swollen Cruise Ship Telephone

They argue that merit shouldn’t be a factor, yes

“We don’t only want rich people”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177105)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:46 PM
Author: geriatric theatre

But then why bring them in at all if not for what they can contribute?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177110)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:49 PM
Author: fantasy-prone kitchen rigpig

diversity

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177130)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:56 PM
Author: stimulating olive doctorate skinny woman

that's news to you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177198)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:57 PM
Author: Submissive wonderful clown

Merit is racist

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177209)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 2:57 PM
Author: hyperventilating shrine

It always has been, and we’ve done just fine for a nation comprised largely of people who couldn’t cut it elsewhere, right?

Of course, the real answer is that people who emigrate tend to be younger and more hard working/enterprising, irrelevant of educational level.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177213)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:01 PM
Author: Black hideous generalized bond

just do compare eras when we were short on unskilled labor to today's knoweledge economy where having a college degree isn't even sufficient to guarantee a halfway decent wage

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177244)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:01 PM
Author: geriatric theatre

First, you're wrong when you say merit has always been irrelevant to US policy. But in any case, even if it were, what if the immigrant population started to skew dumber, poorer, more prone to criminality, less prone to assimilation. Do liberals think US policy should not attempt to control for these things?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177254)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:03 PM
Author: primrose trust fund

in her defense Germans, Irish, Italians, and Slavs all assimilated poorly and just outbred the English.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177265)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:07 PM
Author: hyperventilating shrine

You’re describing every wave of immigration ever. Thanks for playing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177291)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:09 PM
Author: Black hideous generalized bond

you're only gonna respond to this one? thanks for playing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177303)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:11 PM
Author: hyperventilating shrine

Respond to “this one”? What?

Immigrants to the US have largely been proles, no matter their nation of origin. We have done fine because and not in spite of it, because the desire to emigrate is in itself emblematic of merit -ie- being hardworking, ambitious, etc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177312)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:13 PM
Author: geriatric theatre

great, so let's exclude refugees, who have not self-selected for those qualities. they're fleeing because they have to. agree?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177326)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:15 PM
Author: hyperventilating shrine

Refugees are not immigrants in the traditional sense.

If you select migrants based on college education, you’ll still end up with mostly Indians, Mexicans, and Chinese. The largest proportion of college educated immigrants come from these countries

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177345)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:16 PM
Author: Disrespectful doobsian coldplay fan range

refugees desire to emigrate because they are too cowardly to defend their homelands

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177349)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:11 PM
Author: geriatric theatre

that's plainly not true. second wave of asians? persians?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177310)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:12 PM
Author: violent theater gunner

Is this some variation on the “this is how we did it in the past, so we should continue to do this in the future” argument?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177317)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:16 PM
Author: hyperventilating shrine

No, this is the “the only thing that’s changed is your level of xenophobia argument

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177350)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:18 PM
Author: violent theater gunner

So the US economy hasnt changed at all since 1965? Weird.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177362)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:19 PM
Author: avocado library legal warrant

Has the economy gotten rougher for people on the the left side of the IQ bell curve? Have our social welfare programs grown?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177363)



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Date: January 18th, 2018 11:09 AM
Author: violent theater gunner

??

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35182737)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:16 PM
Author: avocado library legal warrant

yes liberals love blindly adopting traditions when it suits their arguments odd case

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177351)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:05 PM
Author: Beta mediation

No, we're actually doing pretty terrible right now because we've been letting in worthless turds for the past 50 years because of the 1965 immigration bill.

And lots of immigrants now are elderly parents brought in via the above's "chain migration" provisions who then gain citizenship and suck the Medicaid teat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177284)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:07 PM
Author: flesh very tactful brunch knife

It's as if pre 1965 immigration policy had a built in proxy for merit...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177295)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:07 PM
Author: hyperventilating shrine

Link?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177297)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:07 PM
Author: hyperventilating shrine

Link?

I thought everything was really awesome and the economy was roaring thanks to Trump

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177296)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:00 PM
Author: stimulating olive doctorate skinny woman

DANCE INTO THE FIRE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177239)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:06 PM
Author: beady-eyed church

Lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177289)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:08 PM
Author: stirring topaz karate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177299)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:12 PM
Author: avocado library legal warrant

to the contrary. we should focus on immigrants who are lacking in "objective" measures of "merit" as they would greater benefit from our social welfare programs, which sadly are lacking because of colonialism in many other parts of the world. The meritorious members of other countries should stay put, since they will probably end up being okay anyways.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177318)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:34 PM
Author: burgundy jet-lagged whorehouse really tough guy

this is literally how libs think. empathy is are downfall

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177508)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:36 PM
Author: fantasy-prone kitchen rigpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177534)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:13 PM
Author: diverse bronze cuck

"merit" is just white racism

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177331)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:36 PM
Author: sick racy stead volcanic crater

Meritocracy is white supremacy. I know because my Mexican sociology teacher told me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177525)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:51 PM
Author: Swashbuckling impressive nursing home

This is essentially the lib position, which is ironic because to reach this conclusion that have to start with the premise that whites are more able.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177642)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:37 PM
Author: concupiscible tanning salon

Democrats are primarily interested in immigration that enhances the electoral prospects of the Democratic Party.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177545)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:42 PM
Author: sadistic digit ratio ceo

libs don’t think, they FEEL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177576)



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Date: January 17th, 2018 3:50 PM
Author: Swashbuckling impressive nursing home

Bringing people in with no skills means they'll be more likely to depend on gov resources and therefore more likely to vote dem. Also, they know that any merit based system will ultimately result in preference to non-browns, which of course undermines their vision for the future of America.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3862848&forum_id=2#35177632)