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Fun Legal Hypo (Getting A Co-Worker Fired To Save You) - From TALMUD LAW Class

moishe is a teacher at a jewish k-8 school. another school i...
very tactful theatre
  02/14/18
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very tactful theatre
  02/14/18
depends. is everyone jewish?
charismatic chartreuse native
  02/14/18
Yes.
very tactful theatre
  02/14/18
then everyone fend for themselves.
charismatic chartreuse native
  02/14/18
Ok, I'll play. This is one of those "but where do you ...
adventurous pea-brained gas station
  02/14/18
DBG, pls respond?
adventurous pea-brained gas station
  02/14/18
i'll wait until we get more responses to give the ruling
very tactful theatre
  02/14/18
Assume that everyone who remotely cares has answered.
adventurous pea-brained gas station
  02/14/18
some of the regular talmud bros arent itt yet
very tactful theatre
  02/14/18
Yet? Phineasgage probably has other shit going on and dgaf....
adventurous pea-brained gas station
  02/14/18
He's not a fun legal hypo threader
very tactful theatre
  02/14/18
Unless his livelihood is at risk (i.e his life being in dang...
Saffron frozen corner party of the first part
  02/14/18
if this happens in august and all the teaching jobs for the ...
very tactful theatre
  02/14/18
I think that he is more justified. The benefactor interve...
Saffron frozen corner party of the first part
  02/15/18
Grounds for job probably already unmeritorous in some way, n...
yapping vibrant lay dragon
  02/14/18
can we just stuff everyone in this hypo into a basement with...
harsh slap-happy mexican resort
  02/15/18
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very tactful theatre
  02/15/18
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very tactful theatre
  02/16/18
any takers before the answer?
very tactful theatre
  02/19/18
He should have his benefactor intervene but not by saying &q...
plum at-the-ready halford market
  02/19/18


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Date: February 14th, 2018 2:13 PM
Author: very tactful theatre

moishe is a teacher at a jewish k-8 school. another school in the area has opened and taken many of their students. rumors circulate that the school is going to cut back on teachers and consolidate classes. each grade will lose a teacher.

a short time later, moishe is summoned to the principal's office and given notice.

after he comes home, moishe's wife says he should speak to her uncle who is a major benefactor to the school to see if he can put pressure on the principal to reverse his decision or lay off a different teacher.

is it permitted for moishe to do so?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3893064&forum_id=2#35402105)



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Date: February 14th, 2018 4:46 PM
Author: very tactful theatre



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3893064&forum_id=2#35403359)



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Date: February 14th, 2018 4:47 PM
Author: charismatic chartreuse native

depends. is everyone jewish?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3893064&forum_id=2#35403364)



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Date: February 14th, 2018 4:52 PM
Author: very tactful theatre

Yes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3893064&forum_id=2#35403404)



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Date: February 14th, 2018 4:58 PM
Author: charismatic chartreuse native

then everyone fend for themselves.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3893064&forum_id=2#35403456)



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Date: February 14th, 2018 4:58 PM
Author: adventurous pea-brained gas station

Ok, I'll play. This is one of those "but where do you draw the liiiiine" annoying hypos. You clearly can stick up for yourself. No one would object if he just said "but if you look at my reviews, I'm actually the best performing teacher." Everyone would object if that person lied and made up some incident about another teacher to get them fired instead ("I saw Chaim touch a little boy on the circumcised penis!").

So the question is whether utilizing influence with those in power is acceptable. I guess the answer is yes, but it isn't preferable, and if you can find a job somewhere else and have money and want to be a good bro then the nice thing to do is to just leave?



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3893064&forum_id=2#35403453)



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Date: February 14th, 2018 5:15 PM
Author: adventurous pea-brained gas station

DBG, pls respond?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3893064&forum_id=2#35403595)



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Date: February 14th, 2018 6:03 PM
Author: very tactful theatre

i'll wait until we get more responses to give the ruling

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3893064&forum_id=2#35403975)



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Date: February 14th, 2018 9:14 PM
Author: adventurous pea-brained gas station

Assume that everyone who remotely cares has answered.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3893064&forum_id=2#35405545)



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Date: February 14th, 2018 9:15 PM
Author: very tactful theatre

some of the regular talmud bros arent itt yet

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3893064&forum_id=2#35405558)



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Date: February 14th, 2018 9:16 PM
Author: adventurous pea-brained gas station

Yet? Phineasgage probably has other shit going on and dgaf.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3893064&forum_id=2#35405565)



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Date: February 14th, 2018 9:25 PM
Author: very tactful theatre

He's not a fun legal hypo threader

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3893064&forum_id=2#35405658)



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Date: February 14th, 2018 5:23 PM
Author: Saffron frozen corner party of the first part

Unless his livelihood is at risk (i.e his life being in danger of collapsing due to this), he is not.

It is a hard situation to judge upon without knowing more details however.

Can he get another job easily? What is his circumstance in life, in the community? Etc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3893064&forum_id=2#35403652)



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Date: February 14th, 2018 6:04 PM
Author: very tactful theatre

if this happens in august and all the teaching jobs for the school year are already filled and he's got 8 kids to support, he's justified?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3893064&forum_id=2#35403985)



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Date: February 15th, 2018 12:14 AM
Author: Saffron frozen corner party of the first part

I think that he is more justified.

The benefactor intervening is one thing, but intervening to have them fire someone else and rehire him is something different.

The issue would lie with the person who was judging whom to fire (i.e the school) but I assume that it was fairly decided by the head of the school.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3893064&forum_id=2#35406958)



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Date: February 14th, 2018 9:16 PM
Author: yapping vibrant lay dragon

Grounds for job probably already unmeritorous in some way, nothing is tainted by taking an advantage.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3893064&forum_id=2#35405569)



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Date: February 15th, 2018 12:16 AM
Author: harsh slap-happy mexican resort

can we just stuff everyone in this hypo into a basement with a couple cans of zyklon B?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3893064&forum_id=2#35406969)



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Date: February 15th, 2018 2:09 PM
Author: very tactful theatre



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3893064&forum_id=2#35410187)



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Date: February 16th, 2018 3:19 PM
Author: very tactful theatre



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3893064&forum_id=2#35418927)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 3:27 PM
Author: very tactful theatre

any takers before the answer?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3893064&forum_id=2#35438225)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 3:41 PM
Author: plum at-the-ready halford market

He should have his benefactor intervene but not by saying "fire someone else instead." It only matters that the benefactor pull strings to get his jerb back. At that point it's up to the administrator to find the revenue.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3893064&forum_id=2#35438327)