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Is there a 100% correlation between cities with high % of blacks = shitty?
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Date: March 8th, 2018 10:06 AM Author: tripping ceo Just wondering. If you took a list of the top 10 American cities with the highest % of black residents, would this completely overlap with the top 10 most dangerous or shitty American cities? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3912965&forum_id=2#35560532) |
Date: March 8th, 2018 10:07 AM Author: chrome marvelous trump supporter affirmative action Atlanta seems okay, mainly black. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3912965&forum_id=2#35560537) |
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Date: March 8th, 2018 10:08 AM Author: Abusive Forum Philosopher-king atlanta is a dangerous shithold.
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Date: March 8th, 2018 10:16 AM Author: Indigo Selfie Church Building It varies from really nice to Fallujah-style shitholes where you don’t want to go ever (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3912965&forum_id=2#35560598) |
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Date: March 8th, 2018 10:24 AM Author: Light newt (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3912965&forum_id=2#35560655) |
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Date: March 8th, 2018 10:08 AM Author: arousing shimmering travel guidebook orchestra pit Atlanta may be an exception (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3912965&forum_id=2#35560541) |
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Date: March 8th, 2018 10:09 AM Author: Abusive Forum Philosopher-king NYC is probably the biggest outlier in this regard. despite being 25% black and like 20% afro-descended hispanic mulatto, it's safer than most cities with 1/3 of its black population (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3912965&forum_id=2#35560553) |
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Date: March 8th, 2018 10:14 AM Author: tripping ceo Would it hold true if you broke it down by neighborhood? Like NYC as a whole is safe, but the black neighborhoods are dangerous shitholes?
Or, assuming NYC is an outlier, how strong is the general trend? Could you say there’s a 90% overlap between higher % of blacks in a city and how dangerous and shitty it is? |
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Date: March 8th, 2018 10:16 AM Author: chrome marvelous trump supporter affirmative action It would not. Majority black neighborhoods like East New York and Brownsville are terrifyingly awful. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3912965&forum_id=2#35560597) |
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Date: March 8th, 2018 10:19 AM Author: tripping ceo We all know blacks are more violent and dangerous, on average.
I’m just trying to get to the bottom of just how bad they really are. Would really love to see an overlay of America’s most dangerous and shitty cities/neighborhoods transposed next to a sorted list of city/neighborhood by % of black residents. I’d imagine you’d see a TON of overlap, and a simple graphic of these two lists side by side would speak volumes. |
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Date: March 8th, 2018 10:20 AM Author: 180 milk iirc the best predictor of violent crime in a city is black population %. Moreso than poverty or w/e (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3912965&forum_id=2#35560628) |
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Date: March 8th, 2018 10:22 AM Author: tripping ceo Makes sense. Would love a simple graphic or one liner (that could be verified) to really drive the point home. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3912965&forum_id=2#35560636) |
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Date: March 8th, 2018 10:33 AM Author: Abusive Forum Philosopher-king Most of the black neighborhoods in NYC aren't dangerous shitholds, at least not by national standards.
e.g., the bronx's murder rate last year was 4.8 per 100,000. the bronx is 43% black. Portland's murder rate last year was 4.2 per 100,000. portland is 6% black. San Francisco, also 6% black, had a murder rate of 6.1 per 100,000. |
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Date: March 8th, 2018 10:38 AM Author: tripping ceo The exception does not disprove the rule:
http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3912965&mc=29&forum_id=2#35560717 |
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Date: March 8th, 2018 10:22 AM Author: chrome marvelous trump supporter affirmative action Yes. Now I'm no liberal faggot however, there's also a correlation of income. Typically, black neighborhoods have suffered extreme economic deprivation and blacks have been in lower income brackets which correlates to higher crime and social problems. So while culture may come into play in some sense, I don't think it can be denied it comes down mainly to a class issue. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3912965&forum_id=2#35560632) |
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Date: March 8th, 2018 10:24 AM Author: tripping ceo Doesn’t West Virginia conclusively debunk the poverty narrative?
They are poor as hell, but you don’t see the assaults or murders that are the hallmark of black areas. You do see thefts, which makes sense due to the lack of money, but not much violence.
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Date: March 8th, 2018 10:24 AM Author: 180 milk Why do you even know this? Why would you research this? (libs) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3912965&forum_id=2#35560658) |
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Date: March 8th, 2018 10:36 AM Author: Trip spot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3912965&forum_id=2#35560752) |
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Date: March 8th, 2018 11:20 AM Author: razzle-dazzle underhanded ticket booth (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3912965&forum_id=2#35561126) |
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Date: March 8th, 2018 12:57 PM Author: Abnormal sandwich (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3912965&forum_id=2#35561826) |
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Date: March 8th, 2018 10:26 AM Author: chrome marvelous trump supporter affirmative action Well they moreso appear to be drug users than sellers/gang members. They used to have a real economic base in Appalachia that got wiped out and ever since, it has been like ground zero of the opioid crisis. People are ODing like crazy. They never had a gang culture and their onset of true stagnating poverty has been more recent. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3912965&forum_id=2#35560666) |
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Date: March 8th, 2018 10:31 AM Author: tripping ceo I thought they’ve been poor for decades. If the lib narrative is true that poverty = violent crime, NOT black culture or genetics, shouldn’t you see violent crime rates that are at least in the ballpark of majority black areas?
Seems to me that when whites are poor, you see despair, hopelessness, depression, but the harm is usually self-inflicted. It results in self-destructive behaviors that lead to an early death.
Whereas blacks just go buckwild. No one is safe.
Certainly seems to have more to do with inherent genetic differences between the races and cultural differences as opposed to mere lack of economic opportunity. |
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Date: March 8th, 2018 10:53 AM Author: chrome marvelous trump supporter affirmative action Blacks seem to have resorted to drug dealing as a means to escape poverty, which was taken over from groups like the Mafia who choose not to deal with that due to stiffer penalties and increased federal scrutiny. This isn't as evident in white communities. Drug dealers and gang culture go hand in hand, because other dealers are taking money out of your pocket and you have to fight for it. The poor white communities have tended to be more customers for these people. But death is death, whether self-inflicted or inflicted by someone else. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3912965&forum_id=2#35560890) |
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Date: March 8th, 2018 12:22 PM Author: tripping ceo Lol at this nonsense.
Look at the link someone else poasted down below. Forget about whites. Hispanics are similarly poor as blacks, yet commit MUCH MUCH lower rates of violent crime than blacks. |
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Date: March 8th, 2018 12:34 PM Author: topaz sinister house Lol @ this tortured “logic” (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3912965&forum_id=2#35561654) |
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Date: March 8th, 2018 1:49 PM Author: racy locale tank ljl Jew (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3912965&forum_id=2#35562295) |
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Date: March 8th, 2018 12:23 PM Author: beady-eyed awkward theatre gay wizard maybe, maybe not. the fair potential lib argument - although one that you rarely see them trot out - is that poverty + urbanization/proximity/population density = violent crime. in other words, dumb poors with a rented quarter acre shitlot and overgrown grass won't kill each other, but dumb poors stacked six deep in a cement box will. the added stress of additional humanity constantly in their space provokes violent behavior. this theory is supported by the calhoun behavioral sink experiments, as well as by the history of american urban gangs, most of which were white but just as violent 50-150 years ago.
the unz link about hispanics is a counterpoint, though. |
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Date: March 8th, 2018 12:26 PM Author: tripping ceo Please see this link someone poasted down below and the comparison to urban Hispanics, who fit all of your criteria yet commit violent crime at a MUCH MUCH lower rate than blacks.
http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3912965&mc=38&forum_id=2#35561421 |
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Date: March 8th, 2018 12:27 PM Author: beady-eyed awkward theatre gay wizard like the last sentence of my poast says, "the unz link about hispanics is a counterpoint." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3912965&forum_id=2#35561592) |
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Date: March 8th, 2018 12:29 PM Author: tripping ceo Ok. At least you are honest.
Amazing for the truth to be this clear (we all knew it anyway) yet no one can speak a word about it in public. |
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Date: March 8th, 2018 1:52 PM Author: racy locale tank this guy is a retard. they've always been poor in appalachia (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3912965&forum_id=2#35562333) |
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Date: March 8th, 2018 10:34 AM Author: Metal liquid oxygen field If you implemented stop and frisk at the same rates in WV that were used in NYC for 10+ years you could spike the crime rate some but I doubt you’d get to the same level of violent crime. A bunch more lead in their water and several coats of lead paint on every building and you might start getting somewhere. If you also somehow made their teenagers the foot soldiers of a ten figure black market economy based on physical goods held on the premises at open air markets, then I suspect you could really up the body counts. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3912965&forum_id=2#35560728) |
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Date: March 8th, 2018 12:28 PM Author: Misunderstood lodge internal respiration You're comparing apples to oranges. West Virginia is rural and these cities you're talking about are urban. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3912965&forum_id=2#35561602) |
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Date: March 8th, 2018 12:29 PM Author: tripping ceo Please see this link someone poasted down below and the comparison to urban Hispanics, who fit all of the same criteria yet commit violent crime at a MUCH MUCH lower rate than blacks.
http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3912965&mc=38&forum_id=2#35561421 |
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Date: March 8th, 2018 10:25 AM Author: Light newt (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3912965&forum_id=2#35560663) |
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Date: March 8th, 2018 10:25 AM Author: Abusive Forum Philosopher-king it would. homicide rate in bronx is waay lower than in places with comparable black populations (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3912965&forum_id=2#35560662) |
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Date: March 8th, 2018 10:31 AM Author: Abusive Forum Philosopher-king e.g., the bronx's murder rate last year was 4.8 per 100,000. the bronx is 43% black.
Portland's murder rate last year was 4.2 per 100,000. portland is 6% black. Denver is 10% black hand had a murder rate of 5.7 per 100,000. San Francisco is 6% black and had a murder rate of 6.1 per 100,000. |
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Date: March 8th, 2018 10:33 AM Author: tripping ceo Yes, let’s assume NYC is an outlier. What about the rest?
“Or, assuming NYC is an outlier, how strong is the general trend? Could you say there’s a 90% overlap between higher % of blacks in a city and how dangerous and shitty it is?”
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Date: March 8th, 2018 12:26 PM Author: Buck-toothed floppy location the question only makes sense if things are broken down by neighborhood. the question needs to be reformulated so that we don't have to waste time talking about how safe 'most of' some city is fine (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3912965&forum_id=2#35561590) |
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Date: March 8th, 2018 12:36 PM Author: Amethyst background story friendly grandma There aren't bad neighborhoods in NYC, there are bad blocks.
There are large swaths of Brownsville and ENY that are perfectly fine. |
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Date: March 8th, 2018 12:43 PM Author: chrome marvelous trump supporter affirmative action Lol, no
But mainly problems are concentrated around large NYCHA complexes |
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Date: March 8th, 2018 12:45 PM Author: Amethyst background story friendly grandma I lived in Bed Stuy all my life and have been around almost every part of Brooklyn. There are parts of East New York indistinguishable from the nice parts of Canarsie or FLatbush.l (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3912965&forum_id=2#35561745) |
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Date: March 8th, 2018 12:47 PM Author: chrome marvelous trump supporter affirmative action All these areas are not nice, bed stuy I did not include bc it has been gentrified massively. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3912965&forum_id=2#35561755) |
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Date: March 8th, 2018 12:51 PM Author: Amethyst background story friendly grandma Again, there are nice parts of all of these neighborhoods. These borders are hard lines; there's areas of Bed Stuy and Brownsville that for all intents and purposes are the same neighborhood. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3912965&forum_id=2#35561788) |
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Date: March 8th, 2018 12:54 PM Author: chrome marvelous trump supporter affirmative action There's no white people who would feel safe or cool walking around there at night, or on weekends, or possible any time other than certain areas during daylight hours. Sorry. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3912965&forum_id=2#35561813) |
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Date: March 8th, 2018 12:55 PM Author: Misunderstood lodge internal respiration Have you even been to the areas he's talking about? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3912965&forum_id=2#35561816) |
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Date: March 8th, 2018 1:01 PM Author: Light newt (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3912965&forum_id=2#35561849) |
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Date: March 8th, 2018 12:56 PM Author: Amethyst background story friendly grandma Describe your experience with these areas. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3912965&forum_id=2#35561820) |
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Date: March 8th, 2018 1:05 PM Author: chrome marvelous trump supporter affirmative action Very weird looks. Intimidating atmosphere.
There's two types of hood: The hood I'll go to (Bed Stuy, Lefferts) and The Hood I will Not Go To: Brownsville, ENY |
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Date: March 8th, 2018 2:11 PM Author: Amethyst background story friendly grandma There are parts of Bed-Stuy just as bad as Brownsville, and parts of Brownsville as good as the nice parts of Bed-Stuy, like where I live. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3912965&forum_id=2#35562514) |
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Date: March 8th, 2018 1:06 PM Author: Buck-toothed floppy location okay, then what is the racial makeup of the bad blocks?
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Date: March 8th, 2018 10:27 AM Author: Metal liquid oxygen field Houston and Dallas are both 25% black as well. There’s a tipping point that’s closer to 35%, and Atlanta is definitely an outlier because it aggregates all smartest and most ambitious/educated Blacks from the rest of the South. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3912965&forum_id=2#35560673) |
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Date: March 8th, 2018 10:32 AM Author: Abusive Forum Philosopher-king Atlanta is dangerous as fuck though. Homicide rate of 20 per 100,000 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3912965&forum_id=2#35560705) |
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Date: March 8th, 2018 10:47 AM Author: Metal liquid oxygen field Yeah but isn’t it like DC where there’s a shitty quarter-third of town and then a richer nice quarter-third of town? At that point you’re just waiting for the rich people to get fed up and elect the pro development city government to push the poors out to the shittiest suburb (see eg DC). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3912965&forum_id=2#35560836) |
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Date: March 8th, 2018 10:33 AM Author: Ultramarine Idea He Suggested Scourge Upon The Earth how about new orleans (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3912965&forum_id=2#35560715) |
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Date: March 8th, 2018 10:35 AM Author: tripping ceo It’s pretty dangerous there from what I’ve heard.
It fits the trend of high % of blacks = high violent crime and a dangerous city. |
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Date: March 8th, 2018 10:35 AM Author: Metal liquid oxygen field LOL. Or Chicago!?!?? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3912965&forum_id=2#35560744) |
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Date: March 8th, 2018 10:54 AM Author: chrome marvelous trump supporter affirmative action Chicago is getting better as of late. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3912965&forum_id=2#35560894) |
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Date: March 8th, 2018 12:29 PM Author: Buck-toothed floppy location this is a bad start on looking into your assertion
March 7, 2018 Six people were shot, one fatally, over a four-hour period in Chicago on Tuesday night, according to police |
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Date: March 8th, 2018 12:05 PM Author: Soul-stirring range http://www.ronunz.org/2013/07/20/race-and-crime-in-america/
basically no other variable has as much explanatory power w.r.t. a city's violent crime rate as its black population |
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Date: March 8th, 2018 12:18 PM Author: tripping ceo Good link. Also debunks the lib narrative that poverty = violent crime.
Makes the point that Hispanics are pretty poor on average too, yet their violent crime rate is nowhere near blacks.
“Consider that both blacks and Hispanics currently have similar national poverty rates in the one-third range, more than double the white figure, and each constitutes well over 20% of our urban population. However, major cities with substantial poverty but few blacks usually tend to have far lower levels of crime. For example, El Paso and Atlanta are comparable in size and have similar poverty rates, but the latter has eight times the robbery rate and over ten times the homicide rate. Within California, Oakland approximately matches Santa Ana in size and poverty, but has several times the rate of crime. Thus, it seems plausible that removing the black population from our calculation might actually reduce the residual poverty/crime correlation for non-blacks to a moderate or even a low figure.” |
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Date: March 8th, 2018 7:19 PM Author: Adventurous school personal credit line came here to post exactly this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3912965&forum_id=2#35564982) |
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Date: March 8th, 2018 12:31 PM Author: Misunderstood lodge internal respiration lawman8 is such a freak. LOL. Who wakes up thinking about this shit? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3912965&forum_id=2#35561623) |
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Date: March 8th, 2018 12:31 PM Author: tripping ceo When the truth hurts, deflect. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3912965&forum_id=2#35561629) |
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Date: March 8th, 2018 12:52 PM Author: Misunderstood lodge internal respiration I don't give a shit what you think the truth is.
You're just a sad weirdo. |
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Date: March 8th, 2018 1:08 PM Author: Light newt (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3912965&forum_id=2#35561923) |
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Date: March 8th, 2018 1:22 PM Author: opaque prole crackhouse "Stop noticing things, lawman!!!" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3912965&forum_id=2#35562059) |
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Date: March 8th, 2018 1:49 PM Author: vibrant mental disorder yep very sad but answer the question (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3912965&forum_id=2#35562299) |
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Date: March 8th, 2018 2:18 PM Author: Gold diverse institution death wish Someone who loves his country and wakes up thinking about all the problems that plague it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3912965&forum_id=2#35562578) |
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Date: March 15th, 2018 3:17 PM Author: Nofapping Bright Whorehouse Cr just do keep your head in the sand and allow an ideology based on lies to flourish and become imposed by force (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3912965&forum_id=2#35612599) |
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Date: March 8th, 2018 7:00 PM Author: tripping ceo To recap: the answer to my question is yes, with NYC being the lone outlier (probably due to years of stop and frisk).
In fact, no other variable has as much explanatory power w/r/t a city's violent crime rate as its black population.
The lib narrative of poverty = violent crime is debunked by studies proving that urban Hispanic males in similar socioeconomic stations as blacks commit MUCH MUCH lower rates of violent crime. And of course, poor whites don’t commit nearly as much violent crime either. |
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Date: March 8th, 2018 11:39 PM Author: Amethyst background story friendly grandma " (probably due to years of stop and frisk). "
Crime has continued to plummet like five years after systematic S&F was ended. |
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Date: March 8th, 2018 11:41 PM Author: tripping ceo That’s your only response to my poast?
Try again. |
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Date: March 8th, 2018 11:45 PM Author: Bateful casino cuck ITT: the third world pretends it isnt third world (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3912965&forum_id=2#35566839) |