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There are so many rich-by-real estate fucks in NYC

Like this one family I know started buying townhouses off of...
Aphrodisiac stage selfie
  04/23/18
Just ran the numbers. If they bought nine townhouses at 300...
Cobalt galvanic psychic base
  04/23/18
But what about rental income after debt is paid off?
haunting den cuck
  04/23/18
No doubt that it's great to have. But let's say the propert...
Cobalt galvanic psychic base
  04/23/18
But if they liquidated their holdings they have 80-90 millio...
Aphrodisiac stage selfie
  04/23/18
Are you saying that's a bad thing?
Cobalt galvanic psychic base
  04/23/18
of course it is. they should not have that much money.
frisky thriller school cafeteria
  04/23/18
right. the real accidental millionaires are the ones who bou...
Wonderful maroon corn cake
  04/23/18
Your "model" here all depends on their leverage an...
salmon cerebral crackhouse hominid
  04/23/18
Maybe. Or maybe they paid cash for the properties. Regardl...
Cobalt galvanic psychic base
  04/23/18
I made a thread about this once. Imagine if your grandfat...
haunting den cuck
  04/23/18
2 or 3? lol There's more with 10, 20 or 50. There's a ton...
Aphrodisiac stage selfie
  04/23/18
You could hire a couple property managers and maintenance du...
haunting den cuck
  04/23/18
Supers, property managers, a guy to do ordering of supplies,...
Aphrodisiac stage selfie
  04/23/18
But a job in MFH is GOOD FOR YOUR CAREER.
at-the-ready carmine hospital boiling water
  04/23/18
buy now before they're 12 million
floppy saffron factory reset button
  04/23/18
My parents bought a duplex in Brooklyn for $270k in 1988. It...
avocado mischievous whorehouse faggot firefighter
  04/23/18
There are so many people like this. Heaven shines upon them.
Aphrodisiac stage selfie
  04/23/18
What is the net profit on the duplex every year?
haunting den cuck
  04/23/18
Like 50k.
avocado mischievous whorehouse faggot firefighter
  04/23/18
That isn't a good return over 30 years
vibrant stage skinny woman
  04/23/18
Tcr. It's a 5% annual return, lol.
Cobalt galvanic psychic base
  04/23/18
This Armenian cat I know who was growing up in Brooklyn in t...
tantric embarrassed to the bone dragon
  04/23/18
Not quite that cheap but yeah all the Hassids made millions ...
avocado mischievous whorehouse faggot firefighter
  04/23/18
crazy man.
tantric embarrassed to the bone dragon
  04/23/18
Tis true, tis true. Shmuel & Co happily own Williamsburg...
Aphrodisiac stage selfie
  04/23/18
These people exist everywhere.
multi-colored bronze messiness mexican
  04/23/18
Not to the extent they are present in NYC. NYC turned almost...
Aphrodisiac stage selfie
  04/23/18
(Guy who hasn’t seen Rent yet)
mind-boggling gaping
  04/23/18
They should rename that musical Rent Control.
Aphrodisiac stage selfie
  04/23/18
could we do this in Chicago? Chicago real estate is nowhere ...
territorial motley orchestra pit pisswyrm
  04/23/18
It isn't restricted land restricted like Manhattan is
vibrant stage skinny woman
  04/23/18
Too many alternative suburbs in Chicagoland
alcoholic hideous casino
  04/23/18
My folks bought two apartments in the late 80s, for 80,000 e...
wild supple clown
  04/23/18
400k? Surely can't be in Manhattan?
Aphrodisiac stage selfie
  04/23/18
sounds like a CUCK!
Amethyst garrison idiot
  04/23/18
LJL my apt would sell for more than 2x what I paid for it le...
contagious business firm
  04/23/18
Wouldn’t you have to give the profit to daddy?
Henna Sound Barrier
  04/23/18
ljl
Aphrodisiac stage selfie
  04/23/18
?
contagious business firm
  04/23/18
You paid for the apartment with daddy’s money so I assume he...
Henna Sound Barrier
  04/23/18
Seems you are poorly informed.
contagious business firm
  04/23/18
...
Amethyst garrison idiot
  04/23/18
Just a couple hundred thousand more trucker dicks and maybe ...
contagious business firm
  04/23/18
That’s why rent control doesn’t bother me so much. If those...
claret goal in life
  04/23/18
This is an interesting point, but the people living in them ...
Aphrodisiac stage selfie
  04/23/18
lol, you should visit California
Provocative cocky laser beams elastic band
  04/24/18


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Date: April 23rd, 2018 11:05 AM
Author: Aphrodisiac stage selfie

Like this one family I know started buying townhouses off of CPW in the late 70s/early 80s for 200-400k a pop. Now, admittedly that wasn't very cheap back then, but they have 9 of them now and each is worth about 10-15 million dollars. Others who even owned small homes in neighborhoods like Forest Hills or Fresh Meadows who bought homes at normal middle class prices now sit on 3 bed, 2 bath, 1500 sq ft homes that go for over a million bucks. Crazy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957215&forum_id=2#35899635)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 12:51 PM
Author: Cobalt galvanic psychic base

Just ran the numbers. If they bought nine townhouses at 300k apiece 40 years ago, that would be about 9% annual appreciation. Granted they could make money from renting them out along the way, but rental yields are usually pretty low in NYC. Not much better than the stock market, if at all.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957215&forum_id=2#35900639)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 12:57 PM
Author: haunting den cuck

But what about rental income after debt is paid off?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957215&forum_id=2#35900692)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 1:00 PM
Author: Cobalt galvanic psychic base

No doubt that it's great to have. But let's say the properties are increasing at 9% per year. Cap rates in NY are so low that rent will only add a couple of percent to that figure. So maybe the total return is 12%. Comparable to what you could get in the stock market, with a lot more liquidity and arguably a lot less risk. Certainly you could spread your funds out over hundreds or thousands of stocks as opposed to nine buildings in the same neighborhood.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957215&forum_id=2#35900734)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:25 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac stage selfie

But if they liquidated their holdings they have 80-90 million.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957215&forum_id=2#35901656)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 5:44 PM
Author: Cobalt galvanic psychic base

Are you saying that's a bad thing?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957215&forum_id=2#35903352)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 11:59 PM
Author: frisky thriller school cafeteria

of course it is. they should not have that much money.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957215&forum_id=2#35905986)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 12:59 PM
Author: Wonderful maroon corn cake

right. the real accidental millionaires are the ones who bought residential property to live in without giving price appreciation a thought and who also would have never put that money into the stock market.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957215&forum_id=2#35900725)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 6:19 PM
Author: salmon cerebral crackhouse hominid

Your "model" here all depends on their leverage and how they financed. If they bought 9 townhouses and only put down 500k and had shitloads of low/good interest to deduct, then they made considerably more than 9% returns. Somebody who snatched up CPW townhouses in the late 70s probably got shit interest rates, but I would assume they refinanced their balls off all through the 80s/90s/00s, so they may still owe a couple million, but have like 100M of new equity off of a tiny nut. And all their places are basically instarents to the lowest risk tenants on the planet.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957215&forum_id=2#35903608)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 10:13 PM
Author: Cobalt galvanic psychic base

Maybe. Or maybe they paid cash for the properties. Regardless, they could have bought stocks on margin if they wanted to juice their returns. Granted that's risky too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957215&forum_id=2#35905142)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 11:11 AM
Author: haunting den cuck

I made a thread about this once.

Imagine if your grandfather bought some pre-war 20 unit walkup building when NYC was a dump and property was cheap. If your family kept the building and operated it, and assuming you had no debt on it any more, that one building would generate like $450-500k per year in net income after expenses. Now imagine a family that had 2 or 3 of these buildings. There must be a bunch of families like this out there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957215&forum_id=2#35899665)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 11:13 AM
Author: Aphrodisiac stage selfie

2 or 3? lol

There's more with 10, 20 or 50. There's a ton of little RE corps all over the fucking city generating millions upon millions passively for people who simply invested when the city was a bankrupt Sodom on the Hudson. Well, score one for foresight.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957215&forum_id=2#35899675)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 11:57 AM
Author: haunting den cuck

You could hire a couple property managers and maintenance dudes and just kick back and enjoy your nearly passive income. Blows my mind that some people have this level of inter-generational passive income.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957215&forum_id=2#35900103)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 11:58 AM
Author: Aphrodisiac stage selfie

Supers, property managers, a guy to do ordering of supplies, a person to schedule maintenance, an accountant and a few lawyers for taxes/violations. All this can be done for chump change compared to the $ you bring in.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957215&forum_id=2#35900134)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 5:32 PM
Author: at-the-ready carmine hospital boiling water

But a job in MFH is GOOD FOR YOUR CAREER.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957215&forum_id=2#35903269)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 11:12 AM
Author: floppy saffron factory reset button

buy now before they're 12 million

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957215&forum_id=2#35899670)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 11:15 AM
Author: avocado mischievous whorehouse faggot firefighter

My parents bought a duplex in Brooklyn for $270k in 1988. Its worth like $1.2 million now. My mom lives in a rent regulated apartment where her rent is $890 a month. She lives off the rent and does nothing but plan new trips which she takes every 3 months. 180 life.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957215&forum_id=2#35899680)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 11:18 AM
Author: Aphrodisiac stage selfie

There are so many people like this. Heaven shines upon them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957215&forum_id=2#35899694)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 11:54 AM
Author: haunting den cuck

What is the net profit on the duplex every year?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957215&forum_id=2#35900072)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 1:07 PM
Author: avocado mischievous whorehouse faggot firefighter

Like 50k.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957215&forum_id=2#35900799)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 12:59 PM
Author: vibrant stage skinny woman

That isn't a good return over 30 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957215&forum_id=2#35900716)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 1:10 PM
Author: Cobalt galvanic psychic base

Tcr. It's a 5% annual return, lol.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957215&forum_id=2#35900821)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 11:17 AM
Author: tantric embarrassed to the bone dragon

This Armenian cat I know who was growing up in Brooklyn in the eighties was saying that people were getting brownstones there for 10, 20, 30k - all the Hasids bought tons.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957215&forum_id=2#35899689)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 11:18 AM
Author: avocado mischievous whorehouse faggot firefighter

Not quite that cheap but yeah all the Hassids made millions off that shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957215&forum_id=2#35899698)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 11:19 AM
Author: tantric embarrassed to the bone dragon

crazy man.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957215&forum_id=2#35899707)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 11:19 AM
Author: Aphrodisiac stage selfie

Tis true, tis true. Shmuel & Co happily own Williamsburg now, one of the hottest nabes in nyc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957215&forum_id=2#35899700)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 11:57 AM
Author: multi-colored bronze messiness mexican

These people exist everywhere.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957215&forum_id=2#35900118)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 11:59 AM
Author: Aphrodisiac stage selfie

Not to the extent they are present in NYC. NYC turned almost an entire generation of city dwellers from paupers into varying degrees of millionaire.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957215&forum_id=2#35900139)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 12:38 PM
Author: mind-boggling gaping

(Guy who hasn’t seen Rent yet)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957215&forum_id=2#35900519)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 12:39 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac stage selfie

They should rename that musical Rent Control.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957215&forum_id=2#35900529)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 12:41 PM
Author: territorial motley orchestra pit pisswyrm

could we do this in Chicago? Chicago real estate is nowhere near coastal prices and the city is a real powerbottom at the moment due to pensions. But people still want to live there and it doesn't have Detroit's single-industry concentration problem. Seems like it could pwn in a couple decades

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957215&forum_id=2#35900545)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 1:00 PM
Author: vibrant stage skinny woman

It isn't restricted land restricted like Manhattan is

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957215&forum_id=2#35900736)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 6:01 PM
Author: alcoholic hideous casino

Too many alternative suburbs in Chicagoland

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957215&forum_id=2#35903489)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:31 PM
Author: wild supple clown

My folks bought two apartments in the late 80s, for 80,000 each. They're going for about 400,000 each now.

My dad wanted to buy a house for 300,000 in the early 00s, but got pressured out of it by other members of our family. It sold for 1.7 million, and the devil knows how much it's worth right now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957215&forum_id=2#35901692)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 4:22 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac stage selfie

400k? Surely can't be in Manhattan?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957215&forum_id=2#35902794)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 5:55 PM
Author: Amethyst garrison idiot

sounds like a CUCK!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957215&forum_id=2#35903439)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 5:37 PM
Author: contagious business firm

LJL my apt would sell for more than 2x what I paid for it less than a decade ago.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957215&forum_id=2#35903299)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 5:48 PM
Author: Henna Sound Barrier

Wouldn’t you have to give the profit to daddy?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957215&forum_id=2#35903372)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 5:50 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac stage selfie

ljl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957215&forum_id=2#35903399)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 5:53 PM
Author: contagious business firm

?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957215&forum_id=2#35903421)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 5:54 PM
Author: Henna Sound Barrier

You paid for the apartment with daddy’s money so I assume he would get the profit from a sale

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957215&forum_id=2#35903433)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 5:57 PM
Author: contagious business firm

Seems you are poorly informed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957215&forum_id=2#35903462)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 5:54 PM
Author: Amethyst garrison idiot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957215&forum_id=2#35903432)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 5:57 PM
Author: contagious business firm

Just a couple hundred thousand more trucker dicks and maybe you can buy a sad studio!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957215&forum_id=2#35903457)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 6:27 PM
Author: claret goal in life

That’s why rent control doesn’t bother me so much. If those people bought the apartment they were living in they would have made a lot more money.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957215&forum_id=2#35903661)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 11:57 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac stage selfie

This is an interesting point, but the people living in them never intended to rent-to-own, these were definitely subsistence level renters whose rent is now frozen at a rate that is maybe like 10-20 percent of "market value". Additionally I've met many rent control people and they are the SCUM of the earth no one would miss. Not all, but a LOT of them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957215&forum_id=2#35905971)



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Date: April 24th, 2018 1:43 AM
Author: Provocative cocky laser beams elastic band

lol, you should visit California

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957215&forum_id=2#35906531)