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Date: April 26th, 2018 10:04 PM Author: Thriller ruby stain organic girlfriend
we think of disenfranchised groups in terms of superficial characteristics like race, gender, class, sexual orientation, religion, etc. they are being temporarily oppressed, yet they can be un-oppressed.
incels are different. there is a fatalism in incel culture. many would admit they are genetically inferior to those who are oppressing them. people aren't the oppressors, therefore, but nature and god. as such, there is no helping an incel via policies and thoughtful actions. you can't do anything for them without abolishing the human condition. so an incel knows his place, he doesn't attempt to overturn the current order and replace it with a thoughtful rational, more functional one where he's on top. such a society would be impossible by the definition of what an incel is. so there is no bargaining or reasoning with an incel. they truly have nothing to lose, and nothing to gain. an incel uprising that has gathered steam can only have one end goal in mind: of committing as much destruction and self-destruction as possible.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3961065&forum_id=2#35928575) |
Date: April 26th, 2018 11:01 PM Author: buff wonderful plaza fortuitous meteor
I know you tend to stay away from political posts, but what do you think about my theory as to why the media is driving a campaign against incels?
http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960381&mc=8&forum_id=2
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3961065&forum_id=2#35928896) |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 11:42 PM Author: buff wonderful plaza fortuitous meteor
This may be a matter of semantics, but while a conservative culture certainly would mock and belittle incels, they’d largely leave them alone. Whereas liberals try to sound the alarm about the “danger” incels pose to respectable society - primarily because incels represent a political threat.
Here’s an example of what I mean:
https://www.vox.com/world/2018/4/25/17277496/incel-toronto-attack-alek-minassian
Incel, the misogynist ideology that inspired the deadly Toronto attack, explained
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“But many incels have a much more sinister, and specific, worldview — one that the Southern Poverty Law Center sees as part of a dangerous trend toward male radicalization online. These incels post obsessively about so-called “Chads,” meaning sexually successful and attractive men, and “Stacys,” attractive, promiscuous women who sleep with the Chads. Both are positioned as unattainable: The Chad is the masculine ideal, one incel men cannot emulate for reasons of poor genetics, while the Stacy is whom every incel man wants to sleep with but cannot because they aren’t a Chad.
It’s this embrace of helplessness, of their certainty of their own sexual doom, that makes the more extreme incel communities so dangerous. Instead of trying to support each other and work through their issues as a group, the incels in certain communities allow their resentments to curdle. They see the world through the lens of entitlement: They are owed sex but cannot have it because women are shallow. This manifests in a deep and profound hatred for women as a group, which shows up on a very brief scan of some of the more extreme incel communities.”
There are more articles like this, and it may be the start of a trend. And I assert that this would not be possible in a conservative culture.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3961065&forum_id=2#35929101)
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Date: April 26th, 2018 11:47 PM Author: buff wonderful plaza fortuitous meteor
True but irrelevant to my point.
If liberals actually cared about the “danger” incels posed, they’d support programs allowing for greater female contact with incels. Perhaps they’d award charity (or tax) credit to women who had sex with an incel, as part of her civic duty to society.
And on a more serious note, the vast majority of mass shooters were raised in households without a father. Are liberals calling for the restoration of nuclear families? LOL!!
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3961065&forum_id=2#35929131) |
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Date: April 27th, 2018 12:21 AM Author: buff wonderful plaza fortuitous meteor
This still makes no sense.
You said not to look a gift horse in the mouth.
So your idea of a gift horse is to take an incel population (already predominantly white male and more likely to vote for Trump than a Dem), and increase popular support for them to be jailed? Meaning they no longer will be able to vote?
That’s exactly what the libs want. Who the fuck cares if that would make incels even more against progressives?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3961065&forum_id=2#35929325) |
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Date: April 27th, 2018 12:50 AM Author: buff wonderful plaza fortuitous meteor
Sure. But my preference is for the alt-right/opposition to shitlibs to start a movement to refuse to use the deceptive nomenclature employed by the left through the mass media.
You just provided a perfect example. “Left leaning.” The mainstream media will take something that could be considered 9.9/10 (with 1 being the right-most extreme, 5 being the center, and 10 being the left-most extreme), and characterize it as “left leaning.” I’ve never seen them use the term “far left” even once.
Meanwhile, they will take something that’s a 4.9 and classify it as “far right.” Simultaneously, they use the media to try and push the 5 (what’s considered in the center) and push it further and further left.
I propose that the alt-right/opposition to shitlibs, organize, and agree on a comprehensive list of such weasel words employed by the left. Counter terms would be used instead. Reject the Left’s (generally successful) attempt to frame EVERYTHING, out of hand.
Conservative writers would then use this list, and basically forcememe counters to all of the left’s weasel words. Could be done through Internet comments, used in articles, blog posts, etc. I believe this would be very powerful in the long term.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3961065&forum_id=2#35929411) |
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