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PSA: Jones Day is ranked 15 by Vault and doesn't pay lockstep

Senior associates making $260k. This is a SHIT profession.
navy dysfunction sound barrier
  06/15/18
“I like working for a firm that has its finances in order!”
hairless bbw theatre
  06/15/18
As I understand it.
Copper adulterous roast beef wrinkle
  06/15/18
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pearly principal's office filthpig
  06/15/18
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pearly principal's office filthpig
  02/12/22
they're a rust belt firm filled with miserable strivers. th...
Spectacular Embarrassed To The Bone Parlor
  06/15/18
oh we got a legal expert here
godawful box office
  10/06/21
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navy dysfunction sound barrier
  02/12/22
they have no debt as I understand it
fishy beady-eyed clown party of the first part
  06/15/18
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pearly principal's office filthpig
  06/15/18
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insane electric furnace cuckoldry
  06/15/18
260k is a huge salary
fishy beady-eyed clown party of the first part
  06/15/18
goes a long way in shaker heights
orange nighttime dilemma cuck
  06/15/18
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razzmatazz volcanic crater pistol
  06/15/18
Cr. Thats city janitor money
pearly principal's office filthpig
  06/15/18
Something tells me they have no problems hiring. The legal ...
thirsty lodge
  06/15/18
How did this shit analysis not get called out in 2018? V25 ...
Buck-toothed Trip Love Of Her Life
  02/12/21
It's probably a decent firm if you want to increase your cha...
aromatic coldplay fan
  06/15/18
they de-equitize all the time. so yea, if you want to live ...
Spectacular Embarrassed To The Bone Parlor
  06/15/18
sounds 180
fishy beady-eyed clown party of the first part
  06/15/18
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razzmatazz volcanic crater pistol
  06/15/18
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insane electric furnace cuckoldry
  06/15/18
https://simpsonsscreenshots.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/myst...
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pearly principal's office filthpig
  06/15/18
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Copper adulterous roast beef wrinkle
  06/15/18
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insane electric furnace cuckoldry
  06/15/18
https://imgur.com/a/9I8pMf1
insane electric furnace cuckoldry
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mint stock car point
  10/06/21
is this that coked up "written work, the way 9.3 intera...
navy dysfunction sound barrier
  10/06/21
omg 260k where do they get off
charismatic tank
  06/15/18
For the record I’m at a much lower ranked firm that doesn’t ...
navy dysfunction sound barrier
  06/15/18
p depressing news going into the weekend
offensive ungodly resort feces
  06/15/18
Eat my dick nigger lover
navy dysfunction sound barrier
  06/15/18
your unraveling before our eyes has become the dumpster fire...
offensive ungodly resort feces
  06/15/18
Explain
navy dysfunction sound barrier
  06/15/18
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navy dysfunction sound barrier
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navy dysfunction sound barrier
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mint stock car point
  06/16/18
yeah, but with "Jones Day" on your resume, you put...
snowy international law enforcement agency rehab
  06/15/18
To be fair, *Jones Days, Nights, and Weekends
peach provocative state kitty cat
  06/15/18
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navy dysfunction sound barrier
  02/12/21
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Red Fiercely-loyal Piazza Skinny Woman
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insane electric furnace cuckoldry
  02/15/21
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navy dysfunction sound barrier
  10/14/21
I make less than that as a V50 Of Counsel.
federal turdskin fortuitous meteor
  02/12/21
holy shit out the firm
bistre bearded lettuce property
  02/12/21
or at least give us vault range. that is really low.
navy dysfunction sound barrier
  02/12/21
Gotta be flame. First years make 200k minimum now.
Talented half-breed
  02/12/21
it might not be flame. there is severe salary compression a...
navy dysfunction sound barrier
  02/12/21
That’s a good point, I woulda thought most v50s pay cr...
Talented half-breed
  02/12/21
i think most v50s do, but there are some outliers.
navy dysfunction sound barrier
  02/15/21
They systematically overpay top performers though. If you'r...
Bateful Shaky Bawdyhouse
  02/12/21
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Red Fiercely-loyal Piazza Skinny Woman
  02/12/21
No they don't. No associate at Jones Day makes more than an...
federal turdskin fortuitous meteor
  02/12/21
Then explain why a high performer would stay knowing they ca...
Bateful Shaky Bawdyhouse
  02/12/21
Better partnership odds
domesticated cerebral den psychic
  02/12/21
That's a fair point, it seems like they have larger partner ...
Bateful Shaky Bawdyhouse
  02/12/21
Not longer than most V20s, which are 10 years plus, except f...
domesticated cerebral den psychic
  02/12/21
(Stevie Brogan)
bistre bearded lettuce property
  02/12/21
lol no
sapphire haunted graveyard
  02/12/21
how hard to lateral from NYC/Chicago v50 to Jones Day Clevel...
disgusting ticket booth roommate
  02/15/21
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navy dysfunction sound barrier
  06/29/21
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navy dysfunction sound barrier
  10/06/21
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floppy house
  10/06/21
that's why they're as high as they are. feature, not a bug.
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  10/06/21
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navy dysfunction sound barrier
  02/12/22


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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:24 PM
Author: navy dysfunction sound barrier

Senior associates making $260k. This is a SHIT profession.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36252934)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:27 PM
Author: hairless bbw theatre

“I like working for a firm that has its finances in order!”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36252952)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:33 PM
Author: Copper adulterous roast beef wrinkle

As I understand it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36253562)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:37 PM
Author: pearly principal's office filthpig



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Date: February 12th, 2022 8:55 AM
Author: pearly principal's office filthpig



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:32 PM
Author: Spectacular Embarrassed To The Bone Parlor

they're a rust belt firm filled with miserable strivers. the high ranking is from their NY and DC specialty practices, which didn't arrive until the 80s. they lost their entire DC office when it broke off to form crowell & moring

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36252972)



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:10 PM
Author: godawful box office

oh we got a legal expert here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#43231415)



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Date: February 12th, 2022 8:41 AM
Author: navy dysfunction sound barrier



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:32 PM
Author: fishy beady-eyed clown party of the first part

they have no debt as I understand it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36252979)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:48 PM
Author: pearly principal's office filthpig



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:42 PM
Author: insane electric furnace cuckoldry



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:33 PM
Author: fishy beady-eyed clown party of the first part

260k is a huge salary

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36252984)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:34 PM
Author: orange nighttime dilemma cuck

goes a long way in shaker heights

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36252989)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:41 PM
Author: razzmatazz volcanic crater pistol



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:49 PM
Author: pearly principal's office filthpig

Cr. Thats city janitor money

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36253068)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:34 PM
Author: thirsty lodge

Something tells me they have no problems hiring. The legal profession will always have a massive oversupply problem unless major changes are made.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36252986)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:14 PM
Author: Buck-toothed Trip Love Of Her Life

How did this shit analysis not get called out in 2018? V25 firms are all competing over the same band of graduates and to a lesser extent laterals. There's an oversupply of lawyers in the country but there isn't an oversupply of Class of 2017 Stanford Law graduates willing to do debt financing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41935785)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:35 PM
Author: aromatic coldplay fan

It's probably a decent firm if you want to increase your chances of making a career of it v. maximizing your earnings. That's always been my impression, although maybe incorrect.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36252995)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:37 PM
Author: Spectacular Embarrassed To The Bone Parlor

they de-equitize all the time. so yea, if you want to live in the midwest making six figures as basically a career of counsel, it might work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36253002)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:37 PM
Author: fishy beady-eyed clown party of the first part

sounds 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36253004)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:42 PM
Author: razzmatazz volcanic crater pistol



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:56 PM
Author: insane electric furnace cuckoldry



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:38 PM
Author: diverse aqua milk menage

https://simpsonsscreenshots.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/mysterybox.png

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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:49 PM
Author: pearly principal's office filthpig



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:38 PM
Author: Copper adulterous roast beef wrinkle



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:42 PM
Author: insane electric furnace cuckoldry



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:55 PM
Author: insane electric furnace cuckoldry

https://imgur.com/a/9I8pMf1

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36253692)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:59 PM
Author: aromatic coldplay fan



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Date: June 15th, 2018 10:46 PM
Author: mint stock car point



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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:06 PM
Author: insane electric furnace cuckoldry



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:12 PM
Author: mint stock car point



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:17 PM
Author: navy dysfunction sound barrier

is this that coked up "written work, the way 9.3 interacts with 7.2" guy?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#43231447)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:50 PM
Author: charismatic tank

omg 260k where do they get off

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36253074)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:24 PM
Author: navy dysfunction sound barrier

For the record I’m at a much lower ranked firm that doesn’t pay lockstep and was making 260k when I made partner.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36253521)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:28 PM
Author: offensive ungodly resort feces

p depressing news going into the weekend

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36253537)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 7:15 PM
Author: navy dysfunction sound barrier

Eat my dick nigger lover

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36253786)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: offensive ungodly resort feces

your unraveling before our eyes has become the dumpster fire du jour

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36254215)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 10:35 PM
Author: navy dysfunction sound barrier

Explain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36254517)



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Date: June 16th, 2018 2:30 PM
Author: navy dysfunction sound barrier



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36256523)



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Date: September 4th, 2018 2:24 PM
Author: navy dysfunction sound barrier



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36743851)



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Date: June 16th, 2018 12:01 AM
Author: mint stock car point



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36254823)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 7:28 PM
Author: snowy international law enforcement agency rehab

yeah, but with "Jones Day" on your resume, you put in some time and then afterwards you basically write your own ticket

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36253827)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 9:46 PM
Author: peach provocative state kitty cat

To be fair,

*Jones Days, Nights, and Weekends

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36254339)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:22 PM
Author: navy dysfunction sound barrier



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41933386)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:21 PM
Author: Red Fiercely-loyal Piazza Skinny Woman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41933826)



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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:06 PM
Author: insane electric furnace cuckoldry



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41949789)



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Date: October 14th, 2021 1:53 PM
Author: navy dysfunction sound barrier



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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:36 PM
Author: federal turdskin fortuitous meteor

I make less than that as a V50 Of Counsel.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41933507)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:37 PM
Author: bistre bearded lettuce property

holy shit

out the firm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41933521)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:15 PM
Author: navy dysfunction sound barrier

or at least give us vault range. that is really low.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41933783)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:22 PM
Author: Talented half-breed

Gotta be flame. First years make 200k minimum now.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41933832)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:24 PM
Author: navy dysfunction sound barrier

it might not be flame. there is severe salary compression at firms that don't pay lockstep (like mine). I think when i made partner biglaw was at 180 or 190 for first years. i was making 260 when i was put up. my firm always matches the market salary for first years but does nothing for anyone year 2 and beyond.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41933852)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:27 PM
Author: Talented half-breed

That’s a good point, I woulda thought most v50s pay cravath scale but it’s been a while since I’ve seen the list

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41933882)



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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:02 PM
Author: navy dysfunction sound barrier

i think most v50s do, but there are some outliers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41949761)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:24 PM
Author: Bateful Shaky Bawdyhouse

They systematically overpay top performers though. If you're a 6th year doing 2400+ hours and unhappy with your pay and you're good, you could walk across the street to any other firm that does lockstep. But now you make the same as their worst sixth year.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41933851)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:39 PM
Author: Red Fiercely-loyal Piazza Skinny Woman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41933950)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:10 PM
Author: federal turdskin fortuitous meteor

No they don't. No associate at Jones Day makes more than an associate of the same year at a lockstep firm.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41935758)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:57 PM
Author: Bateful Shaky Bawdyhouse

Then explain why a high performer would stay knowing they can go to another firm tomorrow and get more money?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41935989)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:00 PM
Author: domesticated cerebral den psychic

Better partnership odds

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41935999)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:04 PM
Author: Bateful Shaky Bawdyhouse

That's a fair point, it seems like they have larger partner classes, but it's a longer track too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41936016)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:10 PM
Author: domesticated cerebral den psychic

Not longer than most V20s, which are 10 years plus, except for places where no one makes partner (Cravath, S&C, etc.).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41936043)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:15 PM
Author: bistre bearded lettuce property

(Stevie Brogan)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41935792)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:22 PM
Author: sapphire haunted graveyard

lol no

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41935828)



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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:12 PM
Author: disgusting ticket booth roommate

how hard to lateral from NYC/Chicago v50 to Jones Day Cleveland? the Shaker Heights trolling has got me curious

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41949811)



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Date: June 29th, 2021 8:18 AM
Author: navy dysfunction sound barrier



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#42703414)



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:07 PM
Author: navy dysfunction sound barrier



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:15 PM
Author: floppy house



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:17 PM
Author: splenetic station

that's why they're as high as they are. feature, not a bug.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#43231452)



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Date: February 12th, 2022 8:43 AM
Author: navy dysfunction sound barrier



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