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good, reasonably objective backgrounder on children/border thing?
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Date: June 19th, 2018 9:59 AM Author: Rose Electric Trailer Park i just want to know the facts. then i will make up my own mind. but i can't find the basic facts. link? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005425&forum_id=2#36271076) |
Date: June 19th, 2018 10:04 AM Author: sepia kitchen Trump said pussy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005425&forum_id=2#36271125) |
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Date: June 19th, 2018 10:17 AM Author: Khaki Concupiscible Point http://www.xoxohth.com/post.php?parent_message_id=36270766&forum_id=2 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005425&forum_id=2#36271204) |
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Date: June 19th, 2018 10:20 AM Author: Jet whorehouse dog poop 18000000 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005425&forum_id=2#36271224) |
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Date: June 19th, 2018 10:22 AM Author: Vigorous know-it-all parlor useless brakes https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/05/illegal-immigration-enforcement-separating-kids-at-border/ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005425&forum_id=2#36271238) |
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Date: June 19th, 2018 10:56 AM Author: sickened green nowag institution That's pretty good (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005425&forum_id=2#36271398) |
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Date: June 19th, 2018 11:15 AM Author: at-the-ready temple "1) Family units can go home quickly. The option that both honors our laws and keeps family units together is a swift return home after prosecution. But immigrant advocates hate it because they want the migrants to stay in the United States. How you view this question will depend a lot on how you view the motivation of the migrants (and how seriously you take our laws and our border)."
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Date: June 19th, 2018 11:16 AM Author: Translucent boltzmann (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005425&forum_id=2#36271470) |
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Date: June 19th, 2018 10:25 AM Author: swollen spot Trump continues morally questionable Obama era policy concerning the processing of illegal immigrant families that involve the separation of parents from their children for the purpose of legal processing. There apparently is some case law that forbids keeping the kids with the parents when the parents are detained. Trump continues this practice.
Democrats, who are concerned with Trump's recent successes, have been holding this card for a while (i.e. this practice openly has been going on for a while, but with some work, it can be used to make Trump look heartless). Libs & Democrats saw how effective the use of children can be with that one dead Syrian kid. Either way, after the North Korea meeting, and with Trump's popularity headed North fast, the lib powers that be decided to roll this thing out at this time. The media that is dedicated to helping Democrats (which is most of them) are doing their jobs by drumming up outrage. Women & low T men are behaving predictably.
It's a particularly tough issue for Trump because it unites Democrats and establishment Republicans. There is nothing that would make GOP guys like Lindsay Graham, Marco Rubio, and the whole Bush clan happier than letting every one of these kids in and putting them right in your school district (not theirs of course).
Trump has won these battles before, so it will be interesting to see how this goes. |
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Date: June 19th, 2018 10:31 AM Author: Mauve home elastic band Trump's tactic appears to be laying it at the feet of Congress. THEY are the ones with the power to change the laws. He's just enforcing THEIR law. But he will not sign any bill that does not fix the problem (i.e. a wall and border security, end chain migration, etc). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005425&forum_id=2#36271285) |
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Date: June 19th, 2018 10:32 AM Author: nubile spruce den A wall spanning the continent is clearly the solution here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005425&forum_id=2#36271294) |
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Date: June 19th, 2018 10:38 AM Author: Mauve home elastic band Walls work. HTFH
https://imgur.com/c26nJuT |
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Date: June 19th, 2018 11:31 AM Author: sepia kitchen (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005425&forum_id=2#36271542) |
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Date: June 19th, 2018 10:45 AM Author: swollen spot Yea, bullshit. A wall will work, it can be built, and compared to the cost of illegal immigration, it is not very expensive. Also, Mexico is going to pay for it, although I'm not yet sure how that is going to happen. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005425&forum_id=2#36271336) |
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Date: June 19th, 2018 10:46 AM Author: Mauve home elastic band The assumption was always taxed remittances but he'll probably just argue it comes out of leaving or renegotiating NAFTA. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005425&forum_id=2#36271343) |
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Date: June 19th, 2018 10:50 AM Author: swollen spot I'm fine with those alternatives. I've yet to hear a reasonable argument as to why we shouldn't be taxing the shit out of remittances, these are the literal taking of money out of our communities and sending it to Mexico. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005425&forum_id=2#36271365) |
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Date: June 19th, 2018 11:07 AM Author: soul-stirring kink-friendly generalized bond cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005425&forum_id=2#36271434) |
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Date: June 19th, 2018 10:54 AM Author: swollen spot I like that he his using it to his advantage to try to get something done. Despite the manufactured outrage that has been carefully planned to hurt his presidency, he is actively working to make this a positive for him.
I can't imagine in my lifetime ever seeing a man better suited for the job of POTUS than Trump - just look at how Bush II took a shit when the media went after him for Katrina. Katrina is kid stuff compared to what the media throws at Trump, yet Trump wins and he wins.
Disclaimer: this kerfuffle isn't over it, it will be interesting to see if Trump can weather and gain advantage here. |
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Date: June 19th, 2018 1:15 PM Author: contagious flushed sandwich theatre Good summary (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005425&forum_id=2#36272211) |
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Date: June 19th, 2018 10:31 AM Author: Tan cracking house Trump is literally Hitler and wants to kill and gas all immigrants, especially kids, especially disabled kids. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005425&forum_id=2#36271289) |
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Date: June 19th, 2018 11:02 AM Author: Jet whorehouse dog poop I like this schtick (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005425&forum_id=2#36271419) |
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Date: June 19th, 2018 10:57 AM Author: haunting dilemma new version so the Trump administration DIDN'T start this practice? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005425&forum_id=2#36271403) |
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Date: June 19th, 2018 11:32 AM Author: sepia kitchen Obama did. It's been in place for like 9 years (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005425&forum_id=2#36271551) |
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Date: June 19th, 2018 11:35 AM Author: sickened green nowag institution That's sort of misleading. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005425&forum_id=2#36271567) |
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Date: June 19th, 2018 12:22 PM Author: sepia kitchen Not as misleading as blaming Trump for this mess (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005425&forum_id=2#36271863) |
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Date: June 19th, 2018 12:25 PM Author: haunting dilemma new version what is the whole answer and don't spin it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005425&forum_id=2#36271885) |
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Date: June 19th, 2018 11:02 AM Author: Arousing chapel Trump wants to build the border wall but Republicans and Democrats in congress don’t want to fund it so he told Stephen Miller to come up with a solution, so Miller told Trump they could ramp up a use of a seldom used law that requires detained illegals to be separated from their children knowing it would result in a public outcry which Trump could then blame on congress and say its on them to change the law, except he wont sign anything they draft unless it also includes money to build the wall. they might have miscalculated the political cost a bit but it looks like it might work. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005425&forum_id=2#36271415) |