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How do choose NYC firms

Is Cravath worth it? Wachtell or some other above market? ...
hairraiser very tactful space factory reset button
  07/17/18
I almost teared up at this poa. Hearkens back to a simple...
glittery bawdyhouse
  07/17/18
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orchid stage
  07/17/18
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hairraiser very tactful space factory reset button
  07/17/18
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exciting underhanded den goal in life
  07/18/18
choose wachtell because it pays a lot more than other firms....
Coral Lascivious Spot
  07/17/18
Can you elaborate on the Skadden thing? It does seem they...
glittery bawdyhouse
  07/17/18
Those other four besides wachtell are all peers
Titillating Nursing Home Haunted Graveyard
  07/17/18
(Skadden associate)
purple quadroon
  07/17/18
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exciting underhanded den goal in life
  07/18/18
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Charismatic Public Bath Party Of The First Part
  07/18/18
Is Cravath not impressive anymore?
hairraiser very tactful space factory reset button
  07/17/18
No. Law students are a lot more savvy nowadays. Most people ...
Titillating Nursing Home Haunted Graveyard
  07/17/18
Had that impression as well. If you were gonna go for broke...
hairraiser very tactful space factory reset button
  07/17/18
Way too general a question bro. What do you want to do long ...
Titillating Nursing Home Haunted Graveyard
  07/17/18
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hairraiser very tactful space factory reset button
  07/17/18
cravath isn’t that selective relative to its peers
Diverse fortuitous meteor
  07/17/18
You're 12 years too late. The entire bort is now trying to ...
purple quadroon
  07/17/18
except for you, dumbass. and you're one of the only ones wit...
concupiscible jewess meetinghouse
  07/17/18
Absolutely Devastating
glittery bawdyhouse
  07/17/18
That guy basically works 100% remote too, lmao
Titillating Nursing Home Haunted Graveyard
  07/17/18
Yes, but I can't just pick up and move wherever -- I'm still...
purple quadroon
  07/17/18
Why not live somewhere cheaper in California? Maybe somewher...
Titillating Nursing Home Haunted Graveyard
  07/17/18
Housing being expensive is working for us now that we own. ...
purple quadroon
  07/17/18
There are more factors in deciding where my wife, kid, and I...
purple quadroon
  07/17/18
(dumbass)
concupiscible jewess meetinghouse
  07/17/18
(guy who's never been to Buffalo or Schenectedy)
purple quadroon
  07/17/18
Buffalo is gentrifying rapidly
Coral Lascivious Spot
  07/17/18
On the most relative of bases, yes. I follow along on the N...
purple quadroon
  07/17/18
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Multi-colored Disturbing Electric Furnace Legal Warrant
  07/17/18
I dunno about NYC specifically but choose a firm by who you ...
Abusive plaza
  07/17/18
What are your goals? Do you enjoy grinding hard and working...
Smoky provocative persian chapel
  07/17/18
cravath sends a ton of people to lazard. this is inapplicabl...
Diverse fortuitous meteor
  07/18/18
cleary is tcr if you can handle the office gays
Lake arousing trust fund reading party
  07/18/18
You mean the male secretaries ?
Titillating Nursing Home Haunted Graveyard
  07/18/18


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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:08 PM
Author: hairraiser very tactful space factory reset button

Is Cravath worth it?

Wachtell or some other above market?

What’s the difference between DP, S&C, PW, etc

Everything seems awful

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447328)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:09 PM
Author: glittery bawdyhouse

I almost teared up at this poa.

Hearkens back to a simpler time on are bort.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447332)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:14 PM
Author: orchid stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447383)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:20 PM
Author: hairraiser very tactful space factory reset button



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447427)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 3:52 PM
Author: exciting underhanded den goal in life



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36453689)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:10 PM
Author: Coral Lascivious Spot

choose wachtell because it pays a lot more than other firms. choose cravath because it's very selective and "prestigious." SullCrom and DPW are peers. Skadden is not a good firm.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447344)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:12 PM
Author: glittery bawdyhouse

Can you elaborate on the Skadden thing?

It does seem they take sort of TTT people...like T30 law review types. Not that that's bad, but like, it ain't WLRK.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447354)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:12 PM
Author: Titillating Nursing Home Haunted Graveyard

Those other four besides wachtell are all peers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447359)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:13 PM
Author: purple quadroon

(Skadden associate)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447365)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 3:52 PM
Author: exciting underhanded den goal in life



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36453691)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 4:18 PM
Author: Charismatic Public Bath Party Of The First Part



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36453930)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:13 PM
Author: hairraiser very tactful space factory reset button

Is Cravath not impressive anymore?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447369)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:24 PM
Author: Titillating Nursing Home Haunted Graveyard

No. Law students are a lot more savvy nowadays. Most people know that cravath doesn’t offer much more than other v5s

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447460)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:29 PM
Author: hairraiser very tactful space factory reset button

Had that impression as well. If you were gonna go for broke and tough out a couple years for max benefits, where would it be? Does the choice just come down to pay these days?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447496)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:51 PM
Author: Titillating Nursing Home Haunted Graveyard

Way too general a question bro. What do you want to do long term? Also are you flaming? Law students don’t really post here anymore

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447644)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:40 PM
Author: hairraiser very tactful space factory reset button



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447575)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 8:12 PM
Author: Diverse fortuitous meteor

cravath isn’t that selective relative to its peers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36448240)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:28 PM
Author: purple quadroon

You're 12 years too late. The entire bort is now trying to figure out how to lateral to Jones Day in Cleveland, Columbus, or Pittsburgh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447487)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:31 PM
Author: concupiscible jewess meetinghouse

except for you, dumbass. and you're one of the only ones with a connection to a lifestyle market (Schenectady or whatever shithole you're from). yet you insist on living in paloturd altochink

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447510)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:32 PM
Author: glittery bawdyhouse

Absolutely Devastating

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447515)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:34 PM
Author: Titillating Nursing Home Haunted Graveyard

That guy basically works 100% remote too, lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447524)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:39 PM
Author: purple quadroon

Yes, but I can't just pick up and move wherever -- I'm still expected to be available to go to occasional meetings and meet with clients.

I could probably get away with traveling / working from somewhere else for a month or so at a time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447558)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 8:22 PM
Author: Titillating Nursing Home Haunted Graveyard

Why not live somewhere cheaper in California? Maybe somewhere down the coast? I don’t see the point of living in Silicon Valley if you don’t even have to go into the office

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36448297)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 8:55 PM
Author: purple quadroon

Housing being expensive is working for us now that we own. Our $700k townhouse almost doubled, then we sold. Current house is up at least $1m from when we bought it a few years ago. This is pure luck and could all disappear so I haven't spent it, but I am hopeful that the house continues to appreciate.

The attraction to being in SV is also for wife's job and both of our future opportunities. We could probably sell, pocket some gains, and buy something less expensive in Paso or somewhere on the coast, but if either of us wanted to switch jobs or was forced to, it would be an issue. Much easier to find other comparable jobs in SF or SV than in SLO or Eureka or some place that's cheaper enough to make a move seem worth it.

Wife's parents are 20 mins away, too, and bought to be close to us. Moving away from them wouldn't be a popular decision.

Our daily life is also really nice: My wife has friends here, we can walk or bike to a bunch of parks, a few schools, a library, a couple of suburban downtowns, some grocery stores -- it's really not bad.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36448507)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:37 PM
Author: purple quadroon

There are more factors in deciding where my wife, kid, and I live than where I grew up >20 years ago.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447546)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:40 PM
Author: concupiscible jewess meetinghouse

(dumbass)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447566)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:44 PM
Author: purple quadroon

(guy who's never been to Buffalo or Schenectedy)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447602)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 8:11 PM
Author: Coral Lascivious Spot

Buffalo is gentrifying rapidly

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36448231)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 8:15 PM
Author: purple quadroon

On the most relative of bases, yes. I follow along on the News and Buffalo Rising. Will always be home to some degree.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36448272)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:57 PM
Author: Multi-colored Disturbing Electric Furnace Legal Warrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447672)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 8:11 PM
Author: Abusive plaza

I dunno about NYC specifically but choose a firm by who you will actually do most of your work for

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36448237)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 8:27 PM
Author: Smoky provocative persian chapel

What are your goals?

Do you enjoy grinding hard and working? For example, are you the guy who color coded case briefs?

I see absolutely no benefit to Cravath. It's "prestigious" but all V20 firms are, so who cares. You work harder for nothing. If you're the color coded briefs guy, maybe it's for you.

Does Wachtell still pay 100% of salary as a bonus? If so, that's the obvious pick. Take the money.

Otherwise, pick a V10-V50 firm instead because (with some notable exceptions) you may work slightly less and you'll be around less gunners.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36448329)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 4:17 PM
Author: Diverse fortuitous meteor

cravath sends a ton of people to lazard. this is inapplicable to 99.99999% of people here but it’s a real benefit over say s&c or cleary. as a general rule working at places non-lawyers have heard of maximizes your chances of actually getting the hell out of law

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36453924)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 3:14 PM
Author: Lake arousing trust fund reading party

cleary is tcr if you can handle the office gays

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36453359)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 4:05 PM
Author: Titillating Nursing Home Haunted Graveyard

You mean the male secretaries ?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36453792)