Not only was there no legitimate fear of death/gbh for getting pushed, the husband/bf clearly paused, raised hands, and backed away as soon as the gun was pulled.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36468069)

Woke: preemptively shooting anyone, male or female, who confronts a member of your family in a parking lot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36468463)

That said, yelling at a woman for parking in a handicap spot (esp when others are available) and refusing to move is trashy but acceptable. I also didn’t see any yelling/berating, but I grant that you can’t really tell from the video so it’s possible he was acting crazy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36481166)

Yes, you read that right. According to her, NOT cucking is cowardice, and a “real man” would gladly take a beating from a black thug, because slavery and reasons.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36468453)

McGlockton went up to Drejka and "slammed him to the ground," the sheriff said. Drejka, seconds later while still on the ground, pulled out his gun and shot McGlockton in the chest. The father of three was pronounced dead soon after.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36468047)

You might reasonably fear for your life.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36468690)

and he's done it before:

It wasn’t the first time he saw Drejka in a fight with another customer. A couple of months back, Rick Kelly stopped by the store, parking his tanker truck in the same handicap spot.

The details to Thursday’s incident are similar: Drejka walking around the truck checking for decals, then confronting Kelly, 31, about why he parked there. The fight escalated, and Drejka threatened to shoot him, Kelly said.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36468902)

just walk out of a store and level somebody.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36468935)

I think the assailant was threatening to continue his assault on the shooter (notice how he’s pulling up his pants like ghetto folks do when they are preparing to make some moves), but he did back down a bit when the gun came out

crazy how these ghetto people don’t just freak out and run when a gun comes out. too proud to tuck tail and they get got for it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36469158)

i hate when ppl go all vigilante for stupid shit like parking in a handicapped spot

but the other guy escalated it with the cheap shot

they're all menaces to society

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36469615)

The victim was physically attacked. Criminals like the dead one here need to understand that if you physically attack someone you will be shot and it will be justified.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36469628)

If so, he's in a much more vulnerable spot after being blindsided.

Probably plead out to involuntary manslaughter.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36469644)

Would be an imperfect self-defense case/manslaughter in a lot of places.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36469665)

if you cant settle your differences with your fists, then don't go around starting shit with random people.

something is wrong with society if we think it is acceptable to shoot someone if they push you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36470051)

let's get it on...

race war nao!!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36475132)

Fucking idiots.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36475358)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36477047)

I checked - I am right. Once your establish a PF case for self defense the burden is shifted in CA too.

CALCRIM 505 – Justifiable Homicide: Self-Defense or Defense of Another. (“The People have the burden of proving beyond a reasonable doubt that the [attempted] killing was not justified.”)

See also CALCRIM 3470 – Right to Self-Defense or Defense of Another (Non-Homicide). (“The People have the burden of proving beyond a reasonable doubt that the defendant did not act in lawful (self-defense/ [or] defense of another).”)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36478110)

All he did was shove him and the weak boomer kind of half lost his balance and fell to the ground.

The boomer is not the police and has no business intentionally confronting citizens over fucking handicapped spots, especially when he is carrying.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36479574)

There is a good full second when the victim steps backwards with his hands up. In that second, the boomer formed the intent to kill, there was no threat anymore because pulling out the gun was sufficient to neutralize the threat.

If the boomer was still standing and the victim was still coming towards him, then the boomer would have no duty to retreat, but the victim was not still coming after him and no reasonable person would feel threatened enough to justify deadly force.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36480828)

The law does get rid of the duty to retreat, but that is a small part of the law. The law also creates a pre-arrest immunity for anyone who invokes self defense (or the SYG law) which must be disproved at a pre-trial immunity hearing by clear and convincing evidence. The affirmative defense during trial is different, and that is the same as every other state.

Since the trial standard for the affirmative defense of self defense must be disproved beyond a reasonable doubt (in CA or FL) that higher standard should result in the same outcome (theoretically) - SYG simply creates additional procedural burdens to bringing the case in the first place - which probably does have a significant impact on prosecution.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36481105)

https://abcnews.go.com/US/shooter-florida-stand-ground-case-charged-manslaughter/story?id=57151343

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36608896)