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Anyone watch the FRONTLINE doc on Dayton, Ohio? Pretty sad future, bros
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Date: September 16th, 2018 12:13 AM Author: Irradiated garrison tank (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4078429&forum_id=2#36817200) |
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Date: September 16th, 2018 12:16 AM Author: dull metal roast beef DESCRIBE (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4078429&forum_id=2#36817213) |
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Date: September 16th, 2018 12:19 AM Author: spectacular crystalline step-uncle's house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4078429&forum_id=2#36817225) |
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Date: September 16th, 2018 12:26 AM Author: Irradiated garrison tank how common is it for poor towns to have these black couples with 6 kids? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4078429&forum_id=2#36817281) |
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Date: September 16th, 2018 11:53 AM Author: spectacular crystalline step-uncle's house More common than single 40 year old white shrews with no kids (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4078429&forum_id=2#36818452) |
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Date: September 16th, 2018 2:17 PM Author: Irradiated garrison tank :( (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4078429&forum_id=2#36819248) |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 1:21 AM Author: sadistic hell factory reset button Jesus fuck (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4078429&forum_id=2#36823410) |
Date: September 16th, 2018 12:23 AM Author: dull metal roast beef damn that birthmark (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4078429&forum_id=2#36817251) |
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Date: September 16th, 2018 2:18 PM Author: razzle-dazzle salmon boistinker downtown Dayton is the saddest and most depressing place I have ever been to in America, outside of an Indian res (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4078429&forum_id=2#36819258) |
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Date: September 16th, 2018 2:20 PM Author: Irradiated garrison tank when last were you there? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4078429&forum_id=2#36819266) |
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Date: September 16th, 2018 4:18 PM Author: razzle-dazzle salmon boistinker 2016, doobs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4078429&forum_id=2#36819932) |
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Date: September 16th, 2018 2:36 PM Author: Khaki Space Pine Club is pretty dope (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4078429&forum_id=2#36819388) |
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Date: September 16th, 2018 3:15 PM Author: Diverse keepsake machete preventive strike (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4078429&forum_id=2#36819564) |
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Date: September 18th, 2018 1:43 AM Author: beta elastic band brunch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4078429&forum_id=2#36830784) |
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Date: September 16th, 2018 3:03 PM Author: Stubborn Iridescent Stage Famous Landscape Painting a reflection of are souls (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4078429&forum_id=2#36819527) |
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Date: September 16th, 2018 3:12 PM Author: glassy rigor cr it's pretty bad (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4078429&forum_id=2#36819556) |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 12:11 AM Author: violent cordovan knife dysfunction (guy who hasn't been to downtown Toledo} (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4078429&forum_id=2#36823169) |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 7:32 AM Author: razzle-dazzle salmon boistinker I haven't but they at least get a lake (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4078429&forum_id=2#36823961) |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 9:03 AM Author: chocolate appetizing windowlicker orchestra pit Downtown Dayton has actually revitalized considerably around the Oregon district, arcade and waterfront. There are many, many shittier towns of that size. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4078429&forum_id=2#36824145) |
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Date: September 16th, 2018 2:37 PM Author: Khaki Space If the AFB ever closes that town might as well just get swallowed up by a massive sinkhole. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4078429&forum_id=2#36819395) |
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Date: September 16th, 2018 3:15 PM Author: Diverse keepsake machete preventive strike So get swallowed by cincinnati? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4078429&forum_id=2#36819567) |
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Date: September 16th, 2018 3:50 PM Author: Irradiated garrison tank must be a lot of sad towns like this in the rust belt (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4078429&forum_id=2#36819763) |
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Date: September 16th, 2018 5:41 PM Author: Plum thriller stag film philosopher-king i clerked around the time that GM plant the documentary focused on closed for a judge in either N.D. Ohio or S.D. Ohio. a lot of the points they were making and the visuals they used really hit home for me/brought back memories from my clerkship. my chambers were great but the whole SE Ohio area is very sad.
on the plus side, though, you feel like you're livin dat baller lifestyle making $60,000 after having done law school in Boston/NYC/Palo Alto etc. |
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Date: September 16th, 2018 5:46 PM Author: Violet bawdyhouse prole $60K in southern ohio outside of cincy is a lot of money. making $60K in chillicothe or something means you're legitimately "doin' good." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4078429&forum_id=2#36820519) |
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Date: September 16th, 2018 6:05 PM Author: Plum thriller stag film philosopher-king even in cities like cincinnati and columbus you can easily cop fairly nice apartments of all kinds for $1,000 or less and a really nice "city" place--doorman, highrise building (relatively speaking), on site laundry/dry cleaning service etc-- for less than $1,500. both easily affordable on a law clerk salary. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4078429&forum_id=2#36820639) |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 12:08 AM Author: Irradiated garrison tank how safe though? what about decent public schools for kids? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4078429&forum_id=2#36823148) |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 12:58 AM Author: disturbing filthpig not in city proper. Suburban publics can be very good (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4078429&forum_id=2#36823369) |
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Date: September 16th, 2018 5:34 PM Author: Mind-boggling Walnut Hall This shit is sad. But solving it is so much more complicated than make unions strong or republicans are bad. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4078429&forum_id=2#36820419) |
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Date: September 16th, 2018 5:43 PM Author: Transparent principal's office lol at democrats ever solving anything (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4078429&forum_id=2#36820496) |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 1:15 AM Author: Diverse keepsake machete preventive strike There is no solving it anymore. Forcible relocate people into regional super cities and break down whats left for scrap metal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4078429&forum_id=2#36823396) |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 1:20 AM Author: lemon odious den Regional super cities with jew landlords and property developers?
Nah. How about we leverage tech to allow people to live in these places on 3/4ths of what they would be paid in NYC or SF? |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 8:31 AM Author: idiotic parlour whole point of the doc was to show how multifaceted dayton's rise - and now decline - was (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4078429&forum_id=2#36824065) |
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Date: September 16th, 2018 5:40 PM Author: Plum thriller stag film philosopher-king here's a link for the doc: https://www.pbs.org/video/left-behind-america-tkmile/ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4078429&forum_id=2#36820479) |
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Date: September 16th, 2018 5:43 PM Author: hairraiser insanely creepy pozpig queen of the night Libs only portray these places in a sad light as if it’s some evidence that an infusion of Muslims will somehow help the situation (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4078429&forum_id=2#36820501) |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 12:09 AM Author: underhanded orange internal respiration (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4078429&forum_id=2#36823160) |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 8:58 AM Author: cracking mahogany indirect expression (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4078429&forum_id=2#36824128) |
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Date: September 18th, 2018 1:31 AM Author: Hairless office (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4078429&forum_id=2#36830740) |
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Date: September 16th, 2018 10:58 PM Author: spectacular crystalline step-uncle's house Also worth nothing Dayton is like 20 miles from Middletown where Hillbilly Elegy is set. Funny because just hearing snippets about it from JD Fraud Vance junkies on npr and shit, you'd think it was in appalachia, but really it's just some shit town on the interstate between cincinnati and dayton.
Dayton is a shithole. I am surprised there are 4-5 daytonposters on xo for how small and worthless a place it is. |
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Date: September 16th, 2018 11:06 PM Author: Diverse keepsake machete preventive strike Middletown is a decent suburb and that guy is a fraud. Lol at how shitty Ohio and Cincy are that one cares to check or question this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4078429&forum_id=2#36822803) |
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Date: September 16th, 2018 11:06 PM Author: spectacular crystalline step-uncle's house Cr that is why his name is JD Fraud Vance (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4078429&forum_id=2#36822810) |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 9:02 AM Author: chocolate appetizing windowlicker orchestra pit Middletown has not been a decent town for 50 years. For most of that time it's been poor rust belt trash - the most rust belt town in the Dayton area along with Moraine - and for the last 5 years it's been the opiate and overdose capital of Montgomery county, which has the most overdoses and overdose deaths per capita of any county in America. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4078429&forum_id=2#36824142) |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 2:43 PM Author: Diverse keepsake machete preventive strike dude its a suburb of cincy.
this is what it looks like
Just random google maps drops. that guy is fraud. |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 7:34 AM Author: razzle-dazzle salmon boistinker what makes Dayton truly, perhaps uniquely depressing, is how clear it is that it wasn't always like this. the bare form of a successful town still exists (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4078429&forum_id=2#36823964) |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 7:36 AM Author: Trip Milky Heaven I remember it being a nice town when I was a kid (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4078429&forum_id=2#36823969) |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 9:05 AM Author: chocolate appetizing windowlicker orchestra pit It has a few suburbs that compete with most of the rest of the country, 1 of them, oakwood, filled with legitimately beautiful pre-war mansions. Others are Centerville Bellbrook Beavercreek |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 9:15 AM Author: razzle-dazzle salmon boistinker Are these the areas on the south side of the river? there are some very nice homes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4078429&forum_id=2#36824179) |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 9:16 AM Author: chocolate appetizing windowlicker orchestra pit Oakwood is south of downtown, the rest are east and southeast (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4078429&forum_id=2#36824182) |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 2:36 PM Author: frisky pearl theatre cuckoldry (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4078429&forum_id=2#36826214) |
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Date: September 16th, 2018 11:07 PM Author: seedy whorehouse I have respect for Dayton because it's the smallest city with its own distinctive style of pizza (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4078429&forum_id=2#36822822) |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 12:13 AM Author: violent cordovan knife dysfunction Robert Pollard lives there (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4078429&forum_id=2#36823189) |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 7:34 AM Author: Trip Milky Heaven DESCRIBE the Dayton pizza style (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4078429&forum_id=2#36823962) |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 9:06 AM Author: chocolate appetizing windowlicker orchestra pit https://www.marionspiazza.com (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4078429&forum_id=2#36824154) |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 2:43 PM Author: Adventurous Kitchen Becky meh, New Haven is smaller than Dayton (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4078429&forum_id=2#36826267) |
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Date: September 18th, 2018 8:14 AM Author: Tantric box office dog poop (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4078429&forum_id=2#36831375) |
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Date: September 16th, 2018 11:08 PM Author: multi-colored haunting puppy written, produced, and directed by shimon dotan! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4078429&forum_id=2#36822837) |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 12:10 AM Author: underhanded orange internal respiration always. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4078429&forum_id=2#36823162) |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 12:10 AM Author: Nudist nursing home toaster (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4078429&forum_id=2#36823166) |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 1:21 AM Author: lemon odious den (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4078429&forum_id=2#36823411) |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 11:51 AM Author: cracking mahogany indirect expression (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4078429&forum_id=2#36824960) |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 12:16 AM Author: swollen sneaky criminal Sim glitch: the Bosnian War ended there.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dayton_Agreement |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 12:17 AM Author: Diverse keepsake machete preventive strike This is not a sim glitch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4078429&forum_id=2#36823213) |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 12:30 AM Author: swollen sneaky criminal Why not (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4078429&forum_id=2#36823255) |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 3:09 AM Author: Contagious topaz chapel clown They wanted the delegates from the hopeless, war-torn Balkans to feel at home. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4078429&forum_id=2#36823604) |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 7:49 AM Author: bonkers aromatic shrine lmao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4078429&forum_id=2#36823989) |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 7:54 AM Author: chrome racy dopamine "shit if we keep bombing Sarajevo is going to look like this one day" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4078429&forum_id=2#36823999) |
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Date: September 18th, 2018 1:31 AM Author: Hairless office (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4078429&forum_id=2#36830743) |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 7:54 AM Author: submissive hospital Haven't seen this documentary, but there are small cities like this across the USA. If you go downtown, you can see remnants of when they were proud places -- with nice architecture, old movie theaters, abandoned department stores and office buildings, etc. You can imagine the scene on a typical weekday during the 1920s when men in suits and hats bustled about. Women pushing their babies in carriages towards the drug store. |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 7:56 AM Author: bonkers aromatic shrine Detroit is the peak example of this.
They've been clearing out blight, but you can still see blocks and blocks of beautiful victorian homes that were just torched and left to rot for decades. It's an absolute fucking disaster. |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 8:03 AM Author: Trip Milky Heaven “Once a beacon of manufacturing success, Dayton claimed more patents per capita than any other U.S. city in 1900.”
http://www.newgeography.com/content/00153-dayton-ohio-the-rise-fall-and-stagnation-a-former-industrial-juggernaut |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 9:07 AM Author: chocolate appetizing windowlicker orchestra pit https://daytoninspires.com (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4078429&forum_id=2#36824161) |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 9:15 AM Author: Honey-headed antidepressant drug library more jewish poverty porn
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Date: September 17th, 2018 9:19 AM Author: primrose temple new version I've posted this before, but the most expensive home listed for sale in all of Dayton is only $700,000. There are actually three homes listed at $700k, so it's a three way tie for most expensive.
So for the price of a very modest 3 bedroom, 1800 square foot ranch house in Silicon Valley or a good NY suburb, you can buy this legitimate family estate in Dayton (sitting on three acres with two ponds), and also simultaneously be the guy with the nicest home in town:
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1231-Hook-Estate-Dr-Dayton-OH-45405/59981134_zpid/?fullpage=true |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 9:30 AM Author: razzle-dazzle salmon boistinker upkeep must be a bitch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4078429&forum_id=2#36824219) |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 2:15 PM Author: spectacular crystalline step-uncle's house Yeah I think it has some tax abatement that new owner will not get and thus be flooded by taxes. And all those ancient pipes, roofing, etc. Would be a huge pain (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4078429&forum_id=2#36826029) |
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Date: September 18th, 2018 2:00 AM Author: beta elastic band brunch My house is basically the same as that one and the pipes are fine (brass) as is the roof (slate).
Utilities and taxes are a bitch though. |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 2:29 PM Author: cobalt overrated sex offender LOL - what's your geographic definition of SV - because you're not fucking buying a 3Br / 1800sq ranch for $700k. Our 3Br/1400sq S.SanJose rental goes for $1mm. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4078429&forum_id=2#36826138) |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 2:36 PM Author: Histrionic Business Firm you know, this might sound insane, but I wonder if there would be a market for breaking down these homes and rebuilding them in high cost areas. or whether that would be feasible from a building standpoint.
the materials and craftsmanship alone are almost impossible to recreate today as costs are prohibitive. |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 2:51 PM Author: cobalt overrated sex offender Construction costs aren't why homes in high COL are high. It's all in the land value. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4078429&forum_id=2#36826327) |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 2:56 PM Author: Histrionic Business Firm it's both. labor costs are really high in affluent areas
but you're missing my point. in affluent areas you can't build a new house like the one linked above because it would be so expensive to build given the materials and the labor that you'd take like a 35% hit the next day after the house was built.
one way to build an older style home like that might be to source the materials from a cheaper home located in the rust belt. |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 3:03 PM Author: cobalt overrated sex offender Homes would fall apart when transported and/or reassembled; things are never as well put together when moved. Also, unlikely any of these old homes meet modern safety and health standards a place like CA imposes on new construction. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4078429&forum_id=2#36826402) |
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Date: September 18th, 2018 2:03 AM Author: beta elastic band brunch You would spend the cost of that house merely in labor laying bricks.
You can’t move mansonry houses. And the cost is all labor. And the bricks are basically worthless as they would have to be cleaned of mortar to be reused.
OTOH, there is a good market for interior trim and fixtures such as the wood paneling and fixtures such as lights and bathroom (those toilets would fetch $1000 each on eBay). |
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Date: September 18th, 2018 9:14 AM Author: Histrionic Business Firm yeah i meant the interior work. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4078429&forum_id=2#36831490) |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 2:44 PM Author: Adventurous Kitchen Becky lol "The list price and Zestimate for this home are very different, so we might be missing something."
Zestimate is even lower - $591k |
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Date: September 18th, 2018 1:35 AM Author: Hairless office That tv above the doorway is the weirdest shit ive ever seen (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4078429&forum_id=2#36830764) |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 2:47 PM Author: Histrionic Business Firm https://www.pbs.org/video/left-behind-america-tkmile/
Start at 8:00
eventually they get to the demographic changes and then white flight.
in 1960 Dayton had 262k residents. then blacks moved in during the great migration and by 1980 over a quarter of the population moved out, and that's probably understating the problem because you probably had even more whites moving out who were replaced by blacks who moved in.
demographics, baby.
does Germany, for example, have any towns like these that lost industry and became shitholes? or is this unique to America because those towns experienced significant demographic shifts? |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 2:56 PM Author: idiotic parlour telltale sign of being <95 IQ is watching this doc and thinking dayton's decline had only one factor to it. the whole point of the film was to show how many different factors went into dayton's success and how many of those factors came apart (retarded trade/economic policies, etc.) to contribute to its decline
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Date: September 17th, 2018 2:57 PM Author: Histrionic Business Firm i didn't watch the whole thing i just randomly skipped through to a couple parts. i'm not saying it was any one factor.
but white flight and demographics overall is a big one. |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 2:59 PM Author: Contagious topaz chapel clown Something that is always left out of the white flight stories is the precise timing of blacks moving in, the rash of devastating racially motivated riots (especially Detroit), and white flight. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4078429&forum_id=2#36826370) |
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Date: September 18th, 2018 1:28 AM Author: Irradiated garrison tank (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4078429&forum_id=2#36830725) |