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Charles: Jesus dies in 30 -> Rome peaks 117 -> Dark ages until 1800s

how do you not see everything became horrible because of Cat...
insanely creepy cobalt feces
  09/20/18
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insanely creepy cobalt feces
  09/20/18
religion is the devil.
Gay Boyish Affirmative Action Partner
  09/20/18
Can't tell if sarcasm? It was only the "dark ages&qu...
Dead sandwich
  09/20/18
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white self-absorbed incel weed whacker
  09/20/18
op is mfe, bro
Thriller genital piercing international law enforcement agency
  09/20/18
(gore vi:Dal)
talented useless double fault range
  09/20/18
“Dark Ages” is a myth
floppy submissive house
  09/20/18
Libs invented the dark ages to discredit white people. If yo...
Gold Business Firm Jewess
  09/20/18
...
Histrionic blue generalized bond
  12/02/18
Settle down, Gibbon
big-titted potus hominid
  12/02/18
...
Histrionic blue generalized bond
  12/02/18
...
Geriatric theatre
  12/03/18
so is it possible we could have had the internet 200 years e...
Razzle flirting giraffe site
  12/02/18
Pretty sure Rome had that stuff.
cerebral lay factory reset button
  12/02/18
ho lee shit
Razzle flirting giraffe site
  12/02/18
What happened in 1800
Histrionic blue generalized bond
  12/02/18
discovery of fossil fuels. living standards actually peaked ...
insanely creepy cobalt feces
  12/02/18
flame on the athens thing
Histrionic blue generalized bond
  12/03/18
32% urbanization rate!
insanely creepy cobalt feces
  12/03/18
The chart on HDI for the Greek East is total fucking flame. ...
Harsh Church Building
  12/03/18
social science shitheaddery like this is also behind the ide...
Histrionic blue generalized bond
  12/03/18
(guy totally impartial about who was in charge in 900 AD)
insanely creepy cobalt feces
  12/03/18
Romans were in charge in 900 AD, and the Eastern Empire was ...
big-titted potus hominid
  12/03/18
German scholars began questioning the historicity of Jesus
Supple mexican immigrant
  12/02/18
Dark Ages are real but blaming them on Christianity is low I...
Harsh Church Building
  12/03/18
whys it gotta be the DARK ages hmmmmmmmm?
Histrionic blue generalized bond
  12/03/18
Because of the lack of written record. There were meticulou...
Crusty digit ratio keepsake machete
  12/03/18
But literature is a good proxy for decadence. Someone that h...
insanely creepy cobalt feces
  12/03/18
In fact Christianity gave them a unified ideology & a so...
big-titted potus hominid
  12/03/18
...so why did it take 2 millenia to recover instead of a cou...
insanely creepy cobalt feces
  12/03/18
? Absolute flame Romans didn't even have fucking stirrups...
big-titted potus hominid
  12/03/18
Lack of slaves mean subsisTTTence living.
insanely creepy cobalt feces
  12/03/18
It didn't; the idea that life was worse in 1700 compared to ...
Harsh Church Building
  12/03/18
LOL @ claiming a higher population living at subsistence is ...
insanely creepy cobalt feces
  12/03/18
Not to mention one could just as easily blame them on Islam....
trip cordovan french chef
  12/03/18
Shit was falling apart well before Islam so while that didn&...
Harsh Church Building
  12/03/18
It was a primary factor in 1. demonetization of European eco...
trip cordovan french chef
  12/03/18
Like I said, it didn't help, but the old Roman Empire was fa...
Harsh Church Building
  12/03/18
In 380, under Emperor Theodosius I, Catholicism became the s...
insanely creepy cobalt feces
  12/03/18
It was already TTT by the time Xtianity came forward - read ...
big-titted potus hominid
  12/03/18
Aurelian master race
Mind-boggling Wrinkle
  12/03/18
He was 180, but was ulitmately only a fireman b/c of his ear...
big-titted potus hominid
  12/03/18
can't argue with thescience https://i.stack.imgur.com/XE9...
Misunderstood stirring pistol
  12/03/18
Reddit is lols
razzle-dazzle codepig macaca
  12/03/18
...
big-titted potus hominid
  12/03/18
But I thought muslims were making yuge scientific advances d...
emerald slippery regret step-uncle's house
  12/03/18
lmfao
medicated goyim
  12/03/18
...
Multi-colored shrine rigpig
  12/03/18
You need to read more books :D, I am diving into this time p...
Crusty digit ratio keepsake machete
  12/03/18
LOL there was MONARCHY and CLERGY. How TTT!
insanely creepy cobalt feces
  12/03/18
952 and 1144 were just as crazy interesting as today.
Crusty digit ratio keepsake machete
  12/03/18
(Guy really interested in subsistence living)
insanely creepy cobalt feces
  12/03/18
What books
Histrionic blue generalized bond
  12/03/18
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0691173141/
insanely creepy cobalt feces
  12/03/18
This is your brain on xkcd
Multi-colored shrine rigpig
  12/03/18
lol @ :D always citing Richard Carrier for all ancient histo...
Balding corn cake
  12/03/18
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0691173141/ https://en.wi...
insanely creepy cobalt feces
  12/03/18
Q predicted this
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Date: September 20th, 2018 1:52 AM
Author: insanely creepy cobalt feces

how do you not see everything became horrible because of Catholicism

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#36846683)



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Date: September 20th, 2018 3:28 AM
Author: insanely creepy cobalt feces



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#36846879)



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Date: September 20th, 2018 3:32 AM
Author: Gay Boyish Affirmative Action Partner

religion is the devil.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#36846880)



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Date: September 20th, 2018 4:49 AM
Author: Dead sandwich

Can't tell if sarcasm?

It was only the "dark ages" in a relatively small part of the world - western europe. The Eastern Roman empire did very well although it had its ups and downs - was still vibrant and making progress, as did other parts of the world with very religious people.

You could just as well say - Diocletian divide ~276 --> Constantine reorganizes empire and moves East to the more economically productive / wealthy parts + legalizes Christianity 325 --> Christianity becomes Official State religion under Theodosius around 390-ish I think -->

After Christianity is legalized then becomes official state religion, several generations later Eastern Roman Empire (which they just considered the roman empire) reaches its peak under XO Justinian in 560s

Your thesis makes no sense considering the roman empire - particularly in the west - was *already* in deep trouble by mid 3rd century

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#36846926)



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Date: September 20th, 2018 5:45 AM
Author: white self-absorbed incel weed whacker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#36846951)



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Date: September 20th, 2018 6:06 AM
Author: Thriller genital piercing international law enforcement agency

op is mfe, bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#36846964)



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Date: September 20th, 2018 5:58 AM
Author: talented useless double fault range

(gore vi:Dal)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#36846960)



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Date: September 20th, 2018 6:04 AM
Author: floppy submissive house

“Dark Ages” is a myth

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#36846962)



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Date: September 20th, 2018 6:07 AM
Author: Gold Business Firm Jewess

Libs invented the dark ages to discredit white people. If you want to see real dark ages look at the entire history of subsaharan africa

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#36846968)



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Date: December 2nd, 2018 10:09 PM
Author: Histrionic blue generalized bond



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37339996)



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Date: December 2nd, 2018 10:03 PM
Author: big-titted potus hominid

Settle down, Gibbon

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37339925)



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Date: December 2nd, 2018 10:09 PM
Author: Histrionic blue generalized bond



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37339991)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 1:58 PM
Author: Geriatric theatre



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37343030)



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Date: December 2nd, 2018 10:35 PM
Author: Razzle flirting giraffe site

so is it possible we could have had the internet 200 years earlier and could have now had flying cars and sex bots that are indistinguishable from humans?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37340148)



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Date: December 2nd, 2018 10:35 PM
Author: cerebral lay factory reset button

Pretty sure Rome had that stuff.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37340150)



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Date: December 2nd, 2018 10:38 PM
Author: Razzle flirting giraffe site

ho lee shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37340164)



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Date: December 2nd, 2018 10:37 PM
Author: Histrionic blue generalized bond

What happened in 1800

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37340158)



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Date: December 2nd, 2018 10:38 PM
Author: insanely creepy cobalt feces

discovery of fossil fuels. living standards actually peaked in 4th century BC athens.

https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/14660

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37340163)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 9:54 AM
Author: Histrionic blue generalized bond

flame on the athens thing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37341698)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 12:56 PM
Author: insanely creepy cobalt feces

32% urbanization rate!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37342665)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 9:57 AM
Author: Harsh Church Building

The chart on HDI for the Greek East is total fucking flame. LJL at 900 AD being worse than the Bronze Age Collapse. That was an actual Dark Age where Greeks had to RE-INVENT writing because they forgot how to do it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37341707)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 10:00 AM
Author: Histrionic blue generalized bond

social science shitheaddery like this is also behind the idea that pre-british colonization india had some AMAZING standard of living. just lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37341718)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 12:01 PM
Author: insanely creepy cobalt feces

(guy totally impartial about who was in charge in 900 AD)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37342257)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 12:56 PM
Author: big-titted potus hominid

Romans were in charge in 900 AD, and the Eastern Empire was coming on a fucking REVENGE TOUR in the 9th and 10th century hth faggot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37342670)



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Date: December 2nd, 2018 11:11 PM
Author: Supple mexican immigrant

German scholars began questioning the historicity of Jesus

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37340449)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 9:53 AM
Author: Harsh Church Building

Dark Ages are real but blaming them on Christianity is low IQ. Demographic collapse, long-term economic stagnation, de-urbanization, and political fragmentation that took centuries to reverse were all critical and not particularly linked to Christianity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37341694)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 9:54 AM
Author: Histrionic blue generalized bond

whys it gotta be the DARK ages hmmmmmmmm?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37341699)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 1:59 PM
Author: Crusty digit ratio keepsake machete

Because of the lack of written record. There were meticulously prepared histories of Greece and Rome that survived but they didn’t do that across Europe and had a tendency to burn the others “Chronicles” when new power came along.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37343039)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 2:05 PM
Author: insanely creepy cobalt feces

But literature is a good proxy for decadence. Someone that has time to write histories isn't living at subsistence at risk of starvation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37343078)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 10:07 AM
Author: big-titted potus hominid

In fact Christianity gave them a unified ideology & a society to recover from said devastation - only remaining functioning govt and SCHOLARSHIP were the Church apparatus for a while in the West and in the East Xtian fanticism saved them vs the Sassanids (Heraclius is the FIRST Crusader)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37341734)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 12:02 PM
Author: insanely creepy cobalt feces

...so why did it take 2 millenia to recover instead of a couple centuries?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37342265)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 12:03 PM
Author: big-titted potus hominid

? Absolute flame

Romans didn't even have fucking stirrups for that CAVALRY, Germans developed better democratic governance & Europe didnt' employ slaves,

France had much much better agricultural output than the Roman times



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37342277)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 12:22 PM
Author: insanely creepy cobalt feces

Lack of slaves mean subsisTTTence living.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37342436)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 2:03 PM
Author: Harsh Church Building

It didn't; the idea that life was worse in 1700 compared to 0 AD is fucking flame, or if it is true, fails to account for a dramatic explosion in population.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37343065)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 2:10 PM
Author: insanely creepy cobalt feces

LOL @ claiming a higher population living at subsistence is a brag

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37343098)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 12:29 PM
Author: trip cordovan french chef

Not to mention one could just as easily blame them on Islam. After muslims conquered the middle east europe lost its main supplies of gold and papyrus.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37342468)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 12:31 PM
Author: Harsh Church Building

Shit was falling apart well before Islam so while that didn’t help it’s not really the cause.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37342476)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 1:38 PM
Author: trip cordovan french chef

It was a primary factor in 1. demonetization of European economies, and 2. lack of writing/scholarship for about 700 years. The only thing they could make books out of was parchment, which was extremely expensive and time consuming to produce.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37342897)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 1:41 PM
Author: Harsh Church Building

Like I said, it didn't help, but the old Roman Empire was far worse off in 630 than it was in in 330, which in turn was much worse off than it was in 30.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37342908)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 1:49 PM
Author: insanely creepy cobalt feces

In 380, under Emperor Theodosius I, Catholicism became the state religion of the Roman Empire

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37342963)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 1:51 PM
Author: big-titted potus hominid

It was already TTT by the time Xtianity came forward - read up on the Crisis of the 3rd Century.

Constantine saved teh Empire hth

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37342981)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 1:55 PM
Author: Mind-boggling Wrinkle

Aurelian master race

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37343010)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 2:00 PM
Author: big-titted potus hominid

He was 180, but was ulitmately only a fireman b/c of his early death

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37343045)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 10:20 AM
Author: Misunderstood stirring pistol

can't argue with thescience

https://i.stack.imgur.com/XE9el.jpg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37341777)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 12:53 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle codepig macaca

Reddit is lols

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37342638)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 12:53 PM
Author: big-titted potus hominid



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37342643)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 1:51 PM
Author: emerald slippery regret step-uncle's house

But I thought muslims were making yuge scientific advances during that time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37342982)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 2:07 PM
Author: medicated goyim

lmfao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37343091)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 9:21 PM
Author: Multi-colored shrine rigpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37345636)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 1:53 PM
Author: Crusty digit ratio keepsake machete

You need to read more books :D, I am diving into this time period and it’s incredible how alive the world was. Religion overall probably made it worse, but some amazing things happened over those 1600 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37342993)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 1:57 PM
Author: insanely creepy cobalt feces

LOL there was MONARCHY and CLERGY. How TTT!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37343022)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 1:58 PM
Author: Crusty digit ratio keepsake machete

952 and 1144 were just as crazy interesting as today.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37343029)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 2:28 PM
Author: insanely creepy cobalt feces

(Guy really interested in subsistence living)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37343197)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 9:32 PM
Author: Histrionic blue generalized bond

What books

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37345681)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 9:34 PM
Author: insanely creepy cobalt feces

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0691173141/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37345690)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 2:28 PM
Author: Multi-colored shrine rigpig

This is your brain on xkcd

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37343200)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 9:12 PM
Author: Balding corn cake

lol @ :D always citing Richard Carrier for all ancient history facts.

Seems like :D discovers a website devoted to a weird slant of a popular topic and then just gives himself entirely to it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37345588)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 9:14 PM
Author: insanely creepy cobalt feces

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0691173141/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josiah_Ober

This guy is a SCHOLAR.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37345608)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 9:13 PM
Author: bonkers personal credit line

Q predicted this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37345600)