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calm down about this retard kavanaugh, we'll just get amy barrett instead jfc

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Mustard dashing turdskin
  09/23/18
shes much worse
crimson haunted graveyard
  09/23/18
? she's seems great
Mustard dashing turdskin
  09/23/18
you're dumb
crimson haunted graveyard
  09/23/18
compelling argument
Mustard dashing turdskin
  09/23/18
(cuck fag
diverse public bath roast beef
  09/23/18
do you even follow this? Kavanaugh was the cuck GC candidat...
Mustard dashing turdskin
  09/23/18
no, retard. 1. she's a bleeding vagina w/ crazy eyes 2. he...
diverse public bath roast beef
  09/23/18
you seem quite dumb and unhinged. she's more conservative t...
Mustard dashing turdskin
  09/23/18
stfu, gook
diverse public bath roast beef
  09/23/18
I see. im dealing with a retard.
Mustard dashing turdskin
  09/23/18
your arguments are severely flawed and pointing out the deta...
Up-to-no-good aromatic useless brakes bawdyhouse
  09/23/18
yes, you're right. all the Asians are pulling for amy barre...
Mustard dashing turdskin
  09/23/18
rook gook, it's your autism. nothing more. has nothing to do...
Up-to-no-good aromatic useless brakes bawdyhouse
  09/23/18
...
Bright alcoholic coffee pot school cafeteria
  09/23/18
...
Submissive swashbuckling weed whacker queen of the night
  09/23/18
rook
Up-to-no-good aromatic useless brakes bawdyhouse
  09/23/18
so are we only allowed to nominate women now? is that how th...
shimmering beady-eyed elastic band
  09/23/18
what is your problem with her? she's 180.
Mustard dashing turdskin
  09/23/18
risten
Up-to-no-good aromatic useless brakes bawdyhouse
  09/23/18
you are literally retarded and cant get your talking points ...
Mustard dashing turdskin
  09/23/18
rook
Up-to-no-good aromatic useless brakes bawdyhouse
  09/23/18
I see. im dealing with a retard.
Mustard dashing turdskin
  09/23/18
rook, den risten
Up-to-no-good aromatic useless brakes bawdyhouse
  09/23/18
i have no problem with amy barrett. but if we let libs get a...
shimmering beady-eyed elastic band
  09/23/18
it will also trickle down into situations involving regular ...
charismatic charcoal lodge messiness
  09/23/18
To be fair, You really don't get it, do you? http://ww...
brindle filthy lay idea he suggested
  09/23/18
...
shimmering beady-eyed elastic band
  09/23/18
the GOP will not back down because of claims she is a religi...
Mustard dashing turdskin
  09/23/18
dah GOP wirr ah not ah back ah down because ah craims she id...
Up-to-no-good aromatic useless brakes bawdyhouse
  09/23/18
retard schtick?
shimmering beady-eyed elastic band
  09/23/18
cr
Mustard dashing turdskin
  09/23/18
, he spat out his udon is there anyone ITT who isn't ...
Up-to-no-good aromatic useless brakes bawdyhouse
  09/23/18
We’re all noodle-slurping gooks here
vigorous candlestick maker den
  09/23/18
...
Up-to-no-good aromatic useless brakes bawdyhouse
  09/23/18
To be fair, Of course they won't, that's just biographica...
brindle filthy lay idea he suggested
  09/23/18
yes, I do think they are far less likely to cuck about this ...
Mustard dashing turdskin
  09/23/18
To be fair, Yes, I do, actually. I think they stand ready...
brindle filthy lay idea he suggested
  09/23/18
because their base, including women, is far more aligned on ...
Mustard dashing turdskin
  09/23/18
To be fair, This won't be portrayed as a religious freedo...
brindle filthy lay idea he suggested
  09/23/18
im pretty surprised you think that you think accusing a cath...
Mustard dashing turdskin
  09/23/18
rook
Up-to-no-good aromatic useless brakes bawdyhouse
  09/23/18
To be fair, The fact that you think she's just some run-o...
brindle filthy lay idea he suggested
  09/23/18
Scalia was Opus Dei
maize incel
  09/23/18
To be fair, (Guy who is apparently suggesting that Scalia...
brindle filthy lay idea he suggested
  09/23/18
they just confirmed Gorsuch. you're off the reservation on ...
Mustard dashing turdskin
  09/23/18
To be fair, Gorsuch wasn't the swing vote to save Roe, an...
brindle filthy lay idea he suggested
  09/23/18
i don't think shes a run of the mill catholic. i think she'...
Mustard dashing turdskin
  09/23/18
Yes
vigorous candlestick maker den
  09/23/18
stfu u pakishitbag
citrine thriller senate personal credit line
  09/24/18
its not about the candidate at this point, but the principle...
odious painfully honest wagecucks step-uncle's house
  09/23/18
...
shimmering beady-eyed elastic band
  09/23/18
Exactly
vigorous candlestick maker den
  09/23/18
yes but it wont be, and we'll still get amy barrett. politi...
Mustard dashing turdskin
  09/23/18
“principles” is some GOPe #NeverTrump nonsense
maize incel
  09/23/18
retard schtick?
shimmering beady-eyed elastic band
  09/23/18
risten!
maize incel
  09/23/18
lol cr.....so much for "hazel" eyes.
Up-to-no-good aromatic useless brakes bawdyhouse
  09/23/18
...
odious painfully honest wagecucks step-uncle's house
  09/23/18
how is this not obvious?
cerebral doobsian macaca national
  09/23/18
yes but only if the allegations are CREDIBLE
honey-headed razzle-dazzle property
  09/23/18
...
Flickering gold indian lodge jap
  09/23/18
Great. A crypto-lib with adopted Haitian children. So tired ...
Submissive swashbuckling weed whacker queen of the night
  09/23/18
you don't think Libs are capable of smearing barrett with so...
chestnut cheese-eating kitchen
  09/23/18
can libs use some black magic parliamentary rules to kick th...
honey-headed razzle-dazzle property
  09/23/18
Looks like you'll get both!
Outnumbered contagious codepig
  09/25/20


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Date: September 23rd, 2018 8:41 PM
Author: Mustard dashing turdskin



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085308&forum_id=2#36872283)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 8:41 PM
Author: crimson haunted graveyard

shes much worse

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085308&forum_id=2#36872286)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 8:42 PM
Author: Mustard dashing turdskin

?

she's seems great

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085308&forum_id=2#36872291)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 8:42 PM
Author: crimson haunted graveyard

you're dumb

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085308&forum_id=2#36872294)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 8:42 PM
Author: Mustard dashing turdskin

compelling argument

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085308&forum_id=2#36872299)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 8:41 PM
Author: diverse public bath roast beef

(cuck fag

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085308&forum_id=2#36872290)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 8:42 PM
Author: Mustard dashing turdskin

do you even follow this? Kavanaugh was the cuck GC candidate. Barrett is the hardcore social conservative catholic.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085308&forum_id=2#36872297)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 8:43 PM
Author: diverse public bath roast beef

no, retard.

1. she's a bleeding vagina w/ crazy eyes

2. her kids are all niggers

she's a nutcase. 'catholic' is not a selling point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085308&forum_id=2#36872309)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 8:44 PM
Author: Mustard dashing turdskin

you seem quite dumb and unhinged. she's more conservative than Kavanaugh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085308&forum_id=2#36872318)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 8:44 PM
Author: diverse public bath roast beef

stfu, gook

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085308&forum_id=2#36872320)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 8:46 PM
Author: Mustard dashing turdskin

I see. im dealing with a retard.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085308&forum_id=2#36872345)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 8:47 PM
Author: Up-to-no-good aromatic useless brakes bawdyhouse

your arguments are severely flawed and pointing out the details would be an exercise in futility, given your stunted cortex, hth.

here's something you might comprehend: rook, risten.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085308&forum_id=2#36872361)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 8:48 PM
Author: Mustard dashing turdskin

yes, you're right. all the Asians are pulling for amy barrett. you are a real detail guy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085308&forum_id=2#36872376)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 8:48 PM
Author: Up-to-no-good aromatic useless brakes bawdyhouse

rook gook, it's your autism. nothing more. has nothing to do with the argument, you slant-eyed sperglord.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085308&forum_id=2#36872379)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 8:47 PM
Author: Bright alcoholic coffee pot school cafeteria



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085308&forum_id=2#36872360)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 9:41 PM
Author: Submissive swashbuckling weed whacker queen of the night



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085308&forum_id=2#36872925)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 8:42 PM
Author: Up-to-no-good aromatic useless brakes bawdyhouse

rook

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085308&forum_id=2#36872292)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 8:42 PM
Author: shimmering beady-eyed elastic band

so are we only allowed to nominate women now? is that how this works?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085308&forum_id=2#36872296)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 8:43 PM
Author: Mustard dashing turdskin

what is your problem with her? she's 180.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085308&forum_id=2#36872303)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 8:43 PM
Author: Up-to-no-good aromatic useless brakes bawdyhouse

risten

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085308&forum_id=2#36872311)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 8:44 PM
Author: Mustard dashing turdskin

you are literally retarded and cant get your talking points correct. barrett is more conservative.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085308&forum_id=2#36872325)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 8:45 PM
Author: Up-to-no-good aromatic useless brakes bawdyhouse

rook

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085308&forum_id=2#36872326)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 8:46 PM
Author: Mustard dashing turdskin

I see. im dealing with a retard.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085308&forum_id=2#36872347)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 8:46 PM
Author: Up-to-no-good aromatic useless brakes bawdyhouse

rook, den risten

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085308&forum_id=2#36872351)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 8:43 PM
Author: shimmering beady-eyed elastic band

i have no problem with amy barrett. but if we let libs get away with this, you bet your ass they'll try this as often as possible.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085308&forum_id=2#36872314)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 8:44 PM
Author: charismatic charcoal lodge messiness

it will also trickle down into situations involving regular people

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085308&forum_id=2#36872323)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 8:44 PM
Author: brindle filthy lay idea he suggested

To be fair,

You really don't get it, do you?

http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4084886&forum_id=2#36870762

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085308&forum_id=2#36872324)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 8:45 PM
Author: shimmering beady-eyed elastic band



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085308&forum_id=2#36872329)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 8:45 PM
Author: Mustard dashing turdskin

the GOP will not back down because of claims she is a religious bigot. it's not the same as metoo.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085308&forum_id=2#36872338)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 8:46 PM
Author: Up-to-no-good aromatic useless brakes bawdyhouse

dah GOP wirr ah not ah back ah down because ah craims she ida rerigious bigot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085308&forum_id=2#36872349)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 8:46 PM
Author: shimmering beady-eyed elastic band

retard schtick?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085308&forum_id=2#36872352)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 8:47 PM
Author: Mustard dashing turdskin

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085308&forum_id=2#36872357)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 8:48 PM
Author: Up-to-no-good aromatic useless brakes bawdyhouse

, he spat out his udon

is there anyone ITT who isn't a fucking gook?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085308&forum_id=2#36872367)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 8:51 PM
Author: vigorous candlestick maker den

We’re all noodle-slurping gooks here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085308&forum_id=2#36872410)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 8:53 PM
Author: Up-to-no-good aromatic useless brakes bawdyhouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085308&forum_id=2#36872432)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 8:48 PM
Author: brindle filthy lay idea he suggested

To be fair,

Of course they won't, that's just biographical background to render the real allegation more plausible:

A weeping, hysterical gay man bravely comes forward to testify about all of the virulently anti-queer things she said to him. (And then multiple well-groomed trannies start coming out of the wood-work to back him up--while also sliding in a bunch of testimony about how incredibly difficult their lives are, the rates at which trannies are murdered in this country, etc etc etc.)

You think the GOP won't cuck on LGBT shit in 2018? Have you even been paying attention for the last decade?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085308&forum_id=2#36872378)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 8:49 PM
Author: Mustard dashing turdskin

yes, I do think they are far less likely to cuck about this than metoo. you disagree?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085308&forum_id=2#36872394)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 8:50 PM
Author: brindle filthy lay idea he suggested

To be fair,

Yes, I do, actually. I think they stand ready to cuck on both with equal aplomb, and I have no idea why any reasonable observer would think they have enough spine to stand strong on gay shit at this point. The GOP lives in mortal fear of being called Nazis, and the Left stands prepared to accuse Republicans of the unforgiveable crime of bigotry against [Insert Sacred Cow Class] at a moment's notice.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085308&forum_id=2#36872407)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 8:53 PM
Author: Mustard dashing turdskin

because their base, including women, is far more aligned on religious freedom than on sexual assault allegations. i understand your pessimism but it's not the same thing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085308&forum_id=2#36872433)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 8:55 PM
Author: brindle filthy lay idea he suggested

To be fair,

This won't be portrayed as a religious freedom issue by the Left. They'll dogwhistle it, but they're not going to make the mistake of calling her a religious nut directly--that will just be a subtle backdrop to render more believable the allegation that SHE'S AN EXTREMIST HOMOPHOBIC BIGOT WHO DEEPLY DESPISES GAY PEOPLE TO THE POINT WHERE SHE ACTIVELY SUPPORTS SCIENTIFICALLY DISCREDITED OVERTLY ANTI-GAY POLICIES THAT HAVE *LITERALLY* BEEN USED TO KILL CONFUSED AND STRUGGLING HOMOSEXUALS FOR DECADES!

Are you really this fucking retarded?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085308&forum_id=2#36872452)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 8:57 PM
Author: Mustard dashing turdskin

im pretty surprised you think that you think accusing a catholic of bigotry because she thinks homosexuality isn't catholic will play the same as sexual assault allegations, tbh. i think it's a pretty retarded view and uncharacteristic of you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085308&forum_id=2#36872464)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 8:57 PM
Author: Up-to-no-good aromatic useless brakes bawdyhouse

rook

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085308&forum_id=2#36872470)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 8:59 PM
Author: brindle filthy lay idea he suggested

To be fair,

The fact that you think she's just some run-of-the-mill "Catholic" tells me everything I need to know about how dumb and uninformed you really are. Pelosi is a fucking "Catholic"--i.e., a C&E non-believer who doesn't really stand for anything. Barrett can easily be painted as an extreme borderline cultist who is nothing like your average American Catholic, and there will be no shortage of Catholics on the Left who will come forward and make that point again and again as much as needed... although again, that will all be played as backstory. "This isn't about putting on trial Catholicism or mainstream religious beliefs," etc.

Idiots like you who can't see the forest for the trees are a huge part of the problem.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085308&forum_id=2#36872491)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 9:01 PM
Author: maize incel

Scalia was Opus Dei

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085308&forum_id=2#36872502)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 9:01 PM
Author: brindle filthy lay idea he suggested

To be fair,

(Guy who is apparently suggesting that Scalia would be confirmable in 2018?)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085308&forum_id=2#36872508)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 9:02 PM
Author: Mustard dashing turdskin

they just confirmed Gorsuch. you're off the reservation on this bro, and I don't find that you usually are.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085308&forum_id=2#36872517)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 9:48 PM
Author: brindle filthy lay idea he suggested

To be fair,

Gorsuch wasn't the swing vote to save Roe, and he wasn't replacing a "moderate" on the court. That was also before they realized JUST how cucky and shook Senate Republicans actually are.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085308&forum_id=2#36873008)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 9:01 PM
Author: Mustard dashing turdskin

i don't think shes a run of the mill catholic. i think she's an extreme right catholic, and i think that the GOP base is quite sympathetic to those views being protected. but we'll see what unfolds.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085308&forum_id=2#36872507)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 8:47 PM
Author: vigorous candlestick maker den

Yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085308&forum_id=2#36872362)



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Date: September 24th, 2018 1:36 AM
Author: citrine thriller senate personal credit line

stfu u pakishitbag

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085308&forum_id=2#36875168)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 8:49 PM
Author: odious painfully honest wagecucks step-uncle's house

its not about the candidate at this point, but the principle that you can lynch anyone with unprovable allegations from almost four decades ago now. this needs to be resisted as strongly as possible

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085308&forum_id=2#36872390)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 8:49 PM
Author: shimmering beady-eyed elastic band



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085308&forum_id=2#36872395)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 8:50 PM
Author: vigorous candlestick maker den

Exactly

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085308&forum_id=2#36872400)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 8:52 PM
Author: Mustard dashing turdskin

yes but it wont be, and we'll still get amy barrett. politics is already total war, what's paramount right now is getting someone good on SCOTUS where they can't be brought down.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085308&forum_id=2#36872421)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 8:52 PM
Author: maize incel

“principles” is some GOPe #NeverTrump nonsense

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085308&forum_id=2#36872428)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 8:53 PM
Author: shimmering beady-eyed elastic band

retard schtick?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085308&forum_id=2#36872434)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 8:54 PM
Author: maize incel

risten!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085308&forum_id=2#36872440)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 8:55 PM
Author: Up-to-no-good aromatic useless brakes bawdyhouse

lol cr.....so much for "hazel" eyes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085308&forum_id=2#36872450)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 9:10 PM
Author: odious painfully honest wagecucks step-uncle's house



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085308&forum_id=2#36872604)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 8:58 PM
Author: cerebral doobsian macaca national

how is this not obvious?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085308&forum_id=2#36872479)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 9:38 PM
Author: honey-headed razzle-dazzle property

yes but only if the allegations are CREDIBLE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085308&forum_id=2#36872907)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 9:39 PM
Author: Flickering gold indian lodge jap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085308&forum_id=2#36872911)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 9:40 PM
Author: Submissive swashbuckling weed whacker queen of the night

Great. A crypto-lib with adopted Haitian children. So tired of winning.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085308&forum_id=2#36872918)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 9:41 PM
Author: chestnut cheese-eating kitchen

you don't think Libs are capable of smearing barrett with some grope story?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085308&forum_id=2#36872924)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 9:46 PM
Author: honey-headed razzle-dazzle property

can libs use some black magic parliamentary rules to kick the Barrett vote down the road past midterms?



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085308&forum_id=2#36872992)



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Date: September 25th, 2020 9:24 PM
Author: Outnumbered contagious codepig

Looks like you'll get both!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085308&forum_id=2#40988103)