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Harvard Cites Weaker Teacher Recommendations for Asian-American Applicants

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aqua beta skinny woman
  10/17/18
WE'RE NOT RACIST WE JUST LISTENED TO RACIST TEACHERS
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french potus
  10/17/18
hey, teachers! leave those kids alone!
blue office
  10/17/18
fuck clicked the thread to say this
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that's not what we were reading before the trial. news accou...
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  10/17/18
this is why all trials need to be filmed live like the Zimme...
orange frisky main people
  10/17/18
that's real retarded sir
saffron field
  10/17/18
“William Fitzsimmons, who has been Harvard’s adm...
blue office
  10/17/18
lol at this good goy Fitzfaggot
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  10/17/18
clear case how jews use the good goy and trick them with she...
orange frisky main people
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razzmatazz ruddy stead old irish cottage
  10/17/18
Wait, so his position is White > Asians on recommendation...
self-centered tan senate
  10/17/18
apparently.
blue office
  10/17/18
do you think it's because if he learned that Asians > Bla...
self-centered tan senate
  10/17/18
i think that’s a reasonable interpretation. there are ...
blue office
  10/17/18
but libs fucking love science???
aqua beta skinny woman
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"Somebody's doing the recommendations!"
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french potus
  10/17/18
i smell bullshit.
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  10/22/18
LOL JUST LOL AT HARVARD
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This *could* be a legit position, but lol at putting any tru...
motley corner
  10/17/18
Remember guys, this is a "prestigious" university ...
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  10/17/18
They're weaker because if words like quiet, hard-working are...
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  10/17/18
Lol disparate impact.
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"U.S. District Judge Allison Burroughs, an Obama appoin...
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I'm also a little surprised they didn't go for a jury trial,...
motley corner
  10/17/18
jury would be full of minorities who have no sympathy for or...
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  10/17/18
I don't know that pool at all, but that seems unlikely.
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  10/22/18
appellate courts? this decision will be findings of fact tha...
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As if standards of review stop appellate courts (let alone t...
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You can have a meaningful appeal just by challenging the sub...
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automaton asian plaintiffs try to brute force their way thro...
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aqua beta skinny woman
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Have they cited the Asians lack oxytocin receptors study yet...
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The teachers name was Albert Einstein
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  10/17/18
Find out what happens when critical race theorists stop bein...
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  10/22/18
Harvard is fucked.
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Subcontracting the racism to others is SO 2018
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Date: October 17th, 2018 12:23 AM
Author: aqua beta skinny woman

Harvard Cites Weaker Teacher Recommendations for Asian-American Applicants

Teacher input contributes to Asian-American applicants’ lower personal ratings, a central point in the university’s discrimination trial

A rally on Sunday ahead of the Harvard discrimination trial, which began Monday and is scheduled to last three weeks.

A rally on Sunday ahead of the Harvard discrimination trial, which began Monday and is scheduled to last three weeks. PHOTO: BRIAN SNYDER/REUTERS

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By Melissa Korn and Nicole Hong

Oct. 16, 2018 4:17 p.m. ET

BOSTON—Harvard’s admissions dean testified Tuesday that weaker teacher and guidance-counselor recommendations are one reason why Asian-American applicants as a group score lower than white applicants in the “personal rating” portion of the school’s admissions process.

The rating, which assesses an applicant’s personal qualities, has been a central focus for the plaintiffs in a trial that began Monday accusing Harvard of intentionally discriminating against Asian-Americans. Harvard’s own data show Asian-American applicants as a group score higher than white applicants in academics and extracurriculars, but lower in the personal rating.

William Fitzsimmons, who has been Harvard’s admissions dean since 1986, said in federal court Tuesday that the lower rating wasn’t due to Asian-American applicants having fewer attractive personal qualities than white applicants. He said one reason for the gap could be due to “somewhat stronger” teacher and guidance-counselor recommendations given to white applicants.

He said he didn’t know if Asian-American applicants had weaker recommendations than African-American or Hispanic applicants. The plaintiffs say Asian-Americans have the lowest personal scores of any racial group.

U.S. District Judge Allison Burroughs, an Obama appointee, will decide after the three-week trial whether Harvard’s admissions practices violate federal civil-rights law. Whether the judge accepts Mr. Fitzsimmons’s explanation could play a role in her decision. Harvard says its policies adhere to Supreme Court precedents.

The trial stems from a lawsuit filed in 2014 by Students for Fair Admissions, a nonprofit whose members include Asian-Americans rejected by Harvard. Lawyers for the plaintiffs have pushed Harvard to explain the racial gap in personal ratings, which they say is evidence of intentional discrimination. Harvard has said admissions officers don’t consider race in the personal rating.

The rating, according to Harvard, uses teacher recommendations, alumni interviews and student essays to consider whether an applicant will be a good roommate or could contribute to the campus community. Harvard’s admissions procedures ask readers to look for “consistent testimony of an applicant’s unusual effervescence, charity, maturity, or strength of character.”

A chart displayed during Harvard’s opening statement showed teacher recommendations and alumni interviewer ratings matter much more in admissions decisions than race does.

The school has stressed throughout the litigation that each applicant is reviewed independently, and patterns across racial or ethnic groups aren’t the result of any broader discriminatory practice.

The gap between white and Asian-American applicants’ personal ratings was also cited in a 1990 report by the Education Department’s Office for Civil Rights, which investigated Harvard for similar complaints. The report, referenced at length in Tuesday’s testimony, found Harvard didn’t discriminate against Asian-American applicants, but flagged racial stereotypes reflected in admissions officers’ comments.

Harvard’s admissions readers, who evaluate students’ applications, “quite often” described Asian-American applicants as shy, science- and math-oriented, and hard workers, the report said. One reader, for instance, wrote of an applicant: “He’s quiet and, of course, wants to be a doctor.”

A lawyer for Harvard said the decades-old remarks reflect only a fraction of admission reader comments. Mr. Fitzsimmons testified: “We abhor stereotypical comments. This is not part of our process.”

A plaintiffs’ lawyer asked Mr. Fitzsimmons whether he raised concerns about any improper use of race in the admissions process with individual readers after the 1990 report. Mr. Fitzsimmons said the admissions staff studied the report carefully to ensure they “did not engage in any racial stereotyping but rather looked carefully at the evidence in each application.”

In a June court filing, the plaintiffs said some admissions readers still make such comments. “Asian-Americans are described as smart and hardworking yet uninteresting and indistinguishable from other Asian-American applicants,” they wrote.

The plaintiffs also used the Office for Civil Rights report to accuse Harvard of ignoring for decades the possible influence of race in the personal rating.

The 1990 report pointed to discrepancies in how readers considered an applicant’s race—whether it was considered only as a potential bonus during committee discussions, or throughout the admissions process in all ratings. Mr. Fitzsimmons testified Tuesday that the role of race in Harvard’s admissions process has been generally unchanged since the report.

“There are no formulas or specific criteria for measuring or assessing ethnicity, nor are there instructions for determining how much weight is given to ethnicity, or where the weight is to be applied in the admissions process,” the report said.

Mr. Fitzsimmons said every admissions officer “is always vigilant” that race and ethnicity are “used in the proper way.”

The plaintiffs said race is the “determinative factor” for approximately half of African-Americans and one-third of Hispanics admitted. They pointed to Harvard’s own report that showed eliminating the consideration of race would cut the percentage of African-Americans admitted to 6% from 14% and the percentage of Hispanics admitted to 9% from 14%.

Mr. Fitzsimmons said race “made a difference” in whether some of those applicants were admitted, but it is never used in isolation from other factors in the admissions process.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108575&forum_id=2#37039916)



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Date: October 17th, 2018 12:25 AM
Author: razzmatazz ruddy stead old irish cottage

WE'RE NOT RACIST WE JUST LISTENED TO RACIST TEACHERS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108575&forum_id=2#37039925)



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Date: October 17th, 2018 12:26 AM
Author: Up-to-no-good hot spot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108575&forum_id=2#37039929)



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Date: October 17th, 2018 12:28 AM
Author: orange frisky main people



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108575&forum_id=2#37039934)



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Date: October 17th, 2018 12:28 AM
Author: french potus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108575&forum_id=2#37039938)



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Date: October 17th, 2018 12:29 AM
Author: blue office

hey, teachers! leave those kids alone!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108575&forum_id=2#37039945)



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Date: October 22nd, 2018 12:34 AM
Author: smoky cerebral organic girlfriend

fuck

clicked the thread to say this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108575&forum_id=2#37070421)



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Date: October 17th, 2018 12:31 AM
Author: Demanding institution useless brakes



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108575&forum_id=2#37039956)



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Date: October 17th, 2018 12:25 AM
Author: rambunctious tattoo cuckold

that's not what we were reading before the trial. news accounts seemed to suggest that asians did just fine in recs and interview assessments. i wish i could trust media to give the straight story on the trial. but i can't.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108575&forum_id=2#37039926)



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Date: October 17th, 2018 12:28 AM
Author: orange frisky main people

this is why all trials need to be filmed live like the Zimmerman trial

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108575&forum_id=2#37039941)



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Date: October 17th, 2018 8:32 PM
Author: saffron field

that's real retarded sir



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108575&forum_id=2#37045400)



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Date: October 17th, 2018 12:28 AM
Author: blue office

“William Fitzsimmons, who has been Harvard’s admissions dean since 1986, said in federal court Tuesday that the lower rating wasn’t due to Asian-American applicants having fewer attractive personal qualities than white applicants. He said one reason for the gap could be due to ‘somewhat stronger’ teacher and guidance-counselor recommendations given to white applicants.

He said he didn’t know if Asian-American applicants had weaker recommendations than African-American or Hispanic applicants...”

“30-year tenure dean of admissions for world’s most prestigious university embroiled in public policy-defining, international news-making litigation here. nope, didn’t occur to me to cross-reference that data.”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108575&forum_id=2#37039936)



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Date: October 17th, 2018 12:29 AM
Author: razzmatazz ruddy stead old irish cottage

lol at this good goy Fitzfaggot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108575&forum_id=2#37039943)



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Date: October 17th, 2018 12:31 AM
Author: orange frisky main people

clear case how jews use the good goy and trick them with shekels (beads). They let him do it and think he's TOP DAWG, but then when shit goes sour, he's the one who takes the brunt of it lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108575&forum_id=2#37039953)



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Date: October 17th, 2018 12:33 AM
Author: razzmatazz ruddy stead old irish cottage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108575&forum_id=2#37039967)



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Date: October 17th, 2018 12:33 AM
Author: self-centered tan senate

Wait, so his position is White > Asians on recommendations, but ???? on Asians vs. others?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108575&forum_id=2#37039963)



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Date: October 17th, 2018 12:34 AM
Author: blue office

apparently.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108575&forum_id=2#37039971)



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Date: October 17th, 2018 12:36 AM
Author: self-centered tan senate

do you think it's because if he learned that Asians > Blacks/hispanics that would undermine his position?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108575&forum_id=2#37039982)



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Date: October 17th, 2018 12:38 AM
Author: blue office

i think that’s a reasonable interpretation. there are some facts that are too dangerous to know.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108575&forum_id=2#37039994)



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Date: October 17th, 2018 1:16 PM
Author: aqua beta skinny woman

but libs fucking love science???

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108575&forum_id=2#37042593)



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Date: October 17th, 2018 12:35 AM
Author: orange frisky main people

"Somebody's doing the recommendations!"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108575&forum_id=2#37039976)



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Date: October 17th, 2018 12:36 AM
Author: french potus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108575&forum_id=2#37039977)



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Date: October 17th, 2018 12:41 PM
Author: rambunctious tattoo cuckold

i smell bullshit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108575&forum_id=2#37042340)



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Date: October 22nd, 2018 12:34 AM
Author: smoky cerebral organic girlfriend



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108575&forum_id=2#37070423)



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Date: October 17th, 2018 12:37 AM
Author: ungodly hairraiser church dysfunction

LOL JUST LOL AT HARVARD

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108575&forum_id=2#37039988)



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Date: October 17th, 2018 12:37 AM
Author: motley corner

This *could* be a legit position, but lol at putting any trust in what Harvard says on this matter.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108575&forum_id=2#37039989)



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Date: October 17th, 2018 12:40 AM
Author: orange frisky main people

Remember guys, this is a "prestigious" university where all the brilliant people go!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108575&forum_id=2#37040012)



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Date: October 17th, 2018 1:15 AM
Author: Glassy Violent Tanning Salon

They're weaker because if words like quiet, hard-working are present they're put into the robot asian reject pile

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108575&forum_id=2#37040198)



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Date: October 17th, 2018 1:22 AM
Author: nighttime pea-brained box office feces

Lol disparate impact.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108575&forum_id=2#37040227)



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Date: October 17th, 2018 1:36 AM
Author: Racy Theater Stage

"U.S. District Judge Allison Burroughs, an Obama appointee, will decide after the three-week trial whether Harvard’s admissions practices violate federal civil-rights law."

WTF? Why didn't the plaintiffs get a jury trial? There's no chance this guy rules against Harvard. Maybe they see this as just a stop on the way to the appellate courts.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108575&forum_id=2#37040297)



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Date: October 17th, 2018 1:41 AM
Author: motley corner

I'm also a little surprised they didn't go for a jury trial, but maybe HAHVAHD carried too much sway among the Boston Hoi polloi.

Edit: apparently she is one of the judges that blocked trumps immigration order

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108575&forum_id=2#37040310)



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Date: October 17th, 2018 1:48 AM
Author: bateful coiffed brunch azn

jury would be full of minorities who have no sympathy for orientals

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108575&forum_id=2#37040332)



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Date: October 22nd, 2018 12:21 AM
Author: Racy Theater Stage

I don't know that pool at all, but that seems unlikely.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108575&forum_id=2#37070331)



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Date: October 17th, 2018 1:46 AM
Author: bateful coiffed brunch azn

appellate courts? this decision will be findings of fact that will be impossible to reverse on appeal under the clearly erroneous standard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108575&forum_id=2#37040328)



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Date: October 17th, 2018 8:31 PM
Author: Topaz Resort

As if standards of review stop appellate courts (let alone the newly cemented conservative SCOTUS majority) from doing what they want.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108575&forum_id=2#37045396)



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Date: October 22nd, 2018 12:20 AM
Author: Racy Theater Stage

You can have a meaningful appeal just by challenging the substantive law applied at all stages.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108575&forum_id=2#37070322)



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Date: October 17th, 2018 2:04 AM
Author: blue office

automaton asian plaintiffs try to brute force their way through the statutes and precedents and completely ignore the human element. why?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108575&forum_id=2#37040402)



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Date: October 17th, 2018 11:54 AM
Author: aqua beta skinny woman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108575&forum_id=2#37041964)



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Date: October 17th, 2018 11:55 AM
Author: fiercely-loyal seedy library

Have they cited the Asians lack oxytocin receptors study yet? Someone please fw it to their counsel, this shit needs national attention

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108575&forum_id=2#37041974)



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Date: October 17th, 2018 11:56 AM
Author: hairless iridescent faggotry

The teachers name was Albert Einstein

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108575&forum_id=2#37041990)



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Date: October 17th, 2018 11:58 AM
Author: very tactful menage halford



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108575&forum_id=2#37041997)



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Date: October 17th, 2018 11:58 AM
Author: Up-to-no-good hot spot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108575&forum_id=2#37042003)



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Date: October 17th, 2018 1:20 PM
Author: Up-to-no-good hot spot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108575&forum_id=2#37042624)



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Date: October 17th, 2018 1:27 PM
Author: brass dashing den



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108575&forum_id=2#37042665)



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Date: October 22nd, 2018 7:54 AM
Author: Marvelous infuriating pozpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108575&forum_id=2#37071025)



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Date: October 17th, 2018 12:07 PM
Author: Know-it-all Space Doctorate

Ljl at this kike disingenuousness. They supposedly look at everything including grades and standardized test scores in the context of systemic racism and implicit bias but now ask us to believe that they accept the teacher recommendations uncritically

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108575&forum_id=2#37042049)



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Date: October 17th, 2018 12:45 PM
Author: rambunctious tattoo cuckold

i've seen this before by AA apologists. when you expose the contradictions in their claims, they throw up their hands and shrug and say "who knows?"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108575&forum_id=2#37042372)



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Date: October 22nd, 2018 12:42 AM
Author: flesh step-uncle's house idea he suggested



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108575&forum_id=2#37070457)



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Date: October 22nd, 2018 12:43 AM
Author: rambunctious tattoo cuckold



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108575&forum_id=2#37070460)



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Date: October 22nd, 2018 12:44 AM
Author: flesh step-uncle's house idea he suggested



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108575&forum_id=2#37070468)



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Date: October 22nd, 2018 12:47 AM
Author: rambunctious tattoo cuckold



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Date: October 22nd, 2018 12:49 AM
Author: flesh step-uncle's house idea he suggested



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Date: October 17th, 2018 1:19 PM
Author: Painfully honest swashbuckling hissy fit theatre

They are on the verge of claiming #HBD just to save themselves

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108575&forum_id=2#37042616)



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Date: October 22nd, 2018 12:41 AM
Author: Racy Theater Stage

Find out what happens when critical race theorists stop being critical and start getting real.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108575&forum_id=2#37070452)



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Date: October 22nd, 2018 12:35 AM
Author: smoky cerebral organic girlfriend

Harvard is fucked.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108575&forum_id=2#37070427)



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Date: October 22nd, 2018 12:51 AM
Author: cocky bull headed pit marketing idea

what a mess for harvard. i would have thought that harvard lawyers would have put together a more sympathetic/compelling narrative by now than this heap of shit. looks like their strategy is dump it on the court and dare the court to do something other than look away and keep the current system going.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108575&forum_id=2#37070500)



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Date: October 22nd, 2018 12:56 AM
Author: rambunctious tattoo cuckold

suppose that everyone at Harvard knew they were cleverly parking the bus on pre-designated numbers for each race (which they were). what would the lawyers do? fight like motherfuckers over discovery. fight bitterly and to the very end. which they did. this judge knows that and probably now knows why they fought that way.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108575&forum_id=2#37070510)



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Date: October 22nd, 2018 12:57 AM
Author: silver misanthropic filthpig round eye

Were they hoping that the azn nazis would run out of money?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108575&forum_id=2#37070518)



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Date: October 22nd, 2018 1:01 AM
Author: rambunctious tattoo cuckold

no, they knew the suit was extremely well funded and that plaintiffs had top notch experts lined up. so they were hoping the judge would limit discovery (she didn't) and that the judge would just pretend that the "holistic" review of Asians just happened to fuck over Asians in a seemingly random but actually quite laser-focused way (she just may).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108575&forum_id=2#37070531)



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Date: October 22nd, 2018 12:58 AM
Author: cocky bull headed pit marketing idea

what do lawyers ever do in those kinds of situations? if you have time, you construct a whole parallel dream-world of sorts with its own interior logic and pretend that you were always proceeding from a whole different set of axioms than the ones alleged.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108575&forum_id=2#37070519)



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Date: October 22nd, 2018 1:03 AM
Author: rambunctious tattoo cuckold

you've just described the "holistic" review theory (which always downgrades Asians at just the critical time and on the one subjective element). only the top decile of Asians get a 1/2 on personality. the two top deciles of whites do. the top six to eight deciles of hispanics and blacks do. Harvard says that just happens to be the way "holistic" reviews just happen to work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108575&forum_id=2#37070540)



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Date: October 22nd, 2018 1:06 AM
Author: silver misanthropic filthpig round eye

Are there azns apologizing for this unironically? Or do they just talk around this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108575&forum_id=2#37070551)



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Date: October 22nd, 2018 1:20 AM
Author: Carnelian wagecucks

Well I've found that many Azns who already got in just sweep it under the rug and pretend everything's okay.

It's also b/c when you express some of these views publicly you're branded as a "racist"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108575&forum_id=2#37070602)



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Date: October 22nd, 2018 7:50 AM
Author: rambunctious tattoo cuckold

it's a powerful incentive to go along with the consensus. and there is a practical argument that it's far better to have a coalition with other non-whites and therefore some unpleasant outcomes must be tolerated.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108575&forum_id=2#37071017)



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Date: October 22nd, 2018 1:07 AM
Author: Carnelian wagecucks

One of their lawyers is Asian. What if it's a deliberate inside job

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108575&forum_id=2#37070554)



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Date: October 22nd, 2018 1:10 AM
Author: silver misanthropic filthpig round eye



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108575&forum_id=2#37070562)



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Date: October 22nd, 2018 7:57 AM
Author: zippy sapphire national

Subcontracting the racism to others is SO 2018

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108575&forum_id=2#37071031)



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Date: October 22nd, 2018 9:28 AM
Author: Glassy Violent Tanning Salon

(Azn does math competitions to semi-impressive level and plays classical music)

He's just like all the other fucking asians!

(Nigger has a 670 math SAT and started a club that does nothing)

Oh what a scholar!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108575&forum_id=2#37071195)



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Date: October 22nd, 2018 10:50 AM
Author: excitant avocado school cafeteria rigor

Admissions officers are some of the worst people in the world

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108575&forum_id=2#37071484)