it's not a great decision but what the hell. one wrinkle. she had looked familiar and after she told me her name it turns out she's friends with a few of my friends. i recall vaguely one of them said that she's always getting hit on by some finance douche bags with 10 million apts on jane st but she always turns them down. I want to ask my friends about her but don't know how to broach it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4136247&forum_id=2#37256465)

http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4136102&mc=13&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4136247&forum_id=2#37256594)

Pay for a hooker if you need slime that badly

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4136247&forum_id=2#37256623)

Maybe this is a low point for me too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4136247&forum_id=2#37257557)

pics

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4136247&forum_id=2#37256705)

Promise $1K a month and just stiff her after you bust some nuts on her. Ljl at paying a whore with no enforcement mechanism

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4136247&forum_id=2#37256706)

That kind of money for a standard issue basic looking hot girl would be a no go for me. There are literally thousands of them running around with nothing better to do but hoe stuff.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4136247&forum_id=2#37257591)

But honestly I think a large part of the attraction is that at least a couple of my buddies seem to have had the hots for her. And that is a REALLY really stupid reason to blow 4k a month

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4136247&forum_id=2#37257607)

Your friends would not be impressed with paying that kind of coin for a girl-'roun-the'way. 4k for some famous porn star or a freak of nature, sure. 4k for some basic bitch who hangs out in your social circle? You're going to regret this.

Set your goals either much higher or much lower. Either pay for top talent or just dive into the stinking sea of human filth that is modern women of child rearing age.

Edit: at most dive bars, on some nights, the only thing you really need to do to get laid is be present and available after 1 AM. That's when the skank manatees come out to rut.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4136247&forum_id=2#37257624)

2. So you think she can fool some rich guy into marrying her hooker skank ass? If she's fucking for cash, this is not a woman of high quality no matter what you think she looks like. This is the kind of woman that gets chased off by Mom and sisters because women know a shameless strumpet when they see one. Really, if she could have secured a MRS with a man from a wealthy family, she would have done so already.

I do this too, so I'm not ragging on you. You have this woman so idealized that you fail to realize that women are miserable and fucked up on the inside. This woman probably cries herself to sleep a few nights a week and is on a steady diet of SSRI drugs to deal with her crushing depression. Most single women are like this because most single women are fucking miserable - every inch of their biological beings is telling her to secure a mate and reproduce, but instead she's taking 4k to fuck whoever so that she can, what, to buy expensive clothing and purses? Or pay bar tabs? Or, shudder, go on some showy trip so that she can take pictures to try to make her girlfriends jealous?

You'll never be successful with women if you are unrealistic with what you're dealing with.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4136247&forum_id=2#37257705)

You're still reasonably young, well off, and there's thousand of girls who would want to be hit on by you. Yes, there are girls who want really in shape men, or only the richest men, but there are also plenty of women who want exactly you. The reason you go and talk to a lot of women is to find the one(s) who want you. The reason why oneitis is so devastating is it robs you of the ability to find a girl who wants you and leaves you chasing women who don't want you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4136247&forum_id=2#37257762)

Trust me - single 25 yo women are not miserable.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4136247&forum_id=2#37262147)

https://www.webmd.com/depression/news/20170815/us-antidepressant-use-jumps-65-percent-in-15-years#1

https://www.womenshealthmag.com/relationships/a19567270/average-age-of-marriage/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4136247&forum_id=2#37269440)

i think i'm still right about market value.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4136247&forum_id=2#37263906)

literally LOL'd

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4136247&forum_id=2#37256797)

she's a prostitute by choice

i dont see any winners there

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4136247&forum_id=2#37262385)

but you still havent even tried to argue that a woman who isn't starving to death and prostitutes herself willingly is somehow superior to the "pathetic and helpless" guy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4136247&forum_id=2#37262520)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4136247&forum_id=2#37257305)

i don't necessarily agree with the gold digger characterization 100%. She's 100% a striver - she names drops big names in tech constantly, but it seems like she values her independence and freedom over just marrying/dating for money.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4136247&forum_id=2#37257596)

but idk viscerally i feel like there's a difference between a woman who gets fucked by one rich dude that she's attracted to for a year for money, and a woman who gets fucked by 5 random dudes a day whom she has no choice over.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4136247&forum_id=2#37257807)

However, if it makes you feel better to think she's not fucking you for money, be my guest.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4136247&forum_id=2#37257915)

You are so gullible.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4136247&forum_id=2#37263298)

but i'm honestly tired of fucking her and i don't like hanging out with her that much.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4136247&forum_id=2#37257816)

The "normal" (now app-based) dating market has very little to offer young women right now if they want a relationship and aren't just interested in taking miles of dick. They actually really appreciate a successful guy who is affectionate and emotionally available because it's a lot better than their same-age options. I'd say about 10% of the chicks there are like this--they didn't like what they saw in their fucked up same-age dating market so they are just testing shit out to try to meet someone more worthwhile.

The truly hilarious part of all of this is that the disparity in generations is so severe that it's EASIER to date younger, hotter girls than it is to date older shrews. You can take a 29 y/o 6 to an average $60 dinner, be nice to her, and it won't even fucking register. She has a million criteria she's judging you against, including the fact that you were probably TOO nice and didn't make her vagina tingle. Then there are 22 y/o 8's out there who you can do the exact same thing for, except they'll genuinely appreciate it and view you as a gentleman and actually show some real enthusiasm about dating you.

This is why I *ONLY* date much younger women now, whether from tinder, bumble, SA, or otherwise. Dating is just much more enjoyable when the chick isn't totally jaded.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4136247&forum_id=2#37272829)

If you want to do what I do, the profile tags you're looking for are things like "long term," "mentorship," "affection." If someone has tags like "monthly allowance" and "NSA" I typically won't even talk to them if they message me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4136247&forum_id=2#37272891)