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What are some things you actually love about biglaw?
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Date: November 19th, 2018 11:01 AM Author: Learning disabled yellow mad cow disease (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4137137&forum_id=2#37262805) |
Date: November 19th, 2018 11:02 AM Author: Jet Insecure Mad-dog Skullcap Nothing I love about it at all. It's tolerable. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4137137&forum_id=2#37262815) |
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Date: November 19th, 2018 11:09 AM Author: Learning disabled yellow mad cow disease Come on. Nothing? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4137137&forum_id=2#37262861) |
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Date: November 19th, 2018 11:44 AM Author: Jet Insecure Mad-dog Skullcap Love? Absolutely nothing.
The pay/perks/benefits are nice. Also a few cuties in the office. |
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Date: November 19th, 2018 11:48 AM Author: curious flesh digit ratio national People who love anything about Biglaw are mentally ill. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4137137&forum_id=2#37263130) |
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Date: November 19th, 2018 11:55 AM Author: talented bearded legal warrant WHAT I REALLY LOVE ARE THE LATE NIGHTS. *snorts coke like Tuco* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4137137&forum_id=2#37263182) |
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Date: November 19th, 2018 11:54 AM Author: Learning disabled yellow mad cow disease Wtf (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4137137&forum_id=2#37263175) |
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Date: November 19th, 2018 11:03 AM Author: Razzle-dazzle cuck The paycheck /thread (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4137137&forum_id=2#37262818) |
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Date: November 19th, 2018 11:04 AM Author: Exhilarant aggressive resort (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4137137&forum_id=2#37262826) |
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Date: November 19th, 2018 11:13 AM Author: thriller pearly set You out of jail? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4137137&forum_id=2#37262880) |
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Date: November 19th, 2018 12:10 PM Author: comical sinister tanning salon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4137137&forum_id=2#37263306) |
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Date: November 19th, 2018 11:12 AM Author: Ungodly Messiness Indian Lodge the irregular hours actually suit me
i would lose it at a M-F 9-6 |
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Date: November 19th, 2018 11:47 AM Author: mauve shrine (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4137137&forum_id=2#37263113) |
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Date: November 19th, 2018 12:44 PM Author: Dull deranged friendly grandma Yep Monday through Saturday 8am to 9pm suits me much better too. Would hate the M-F 9-6 grind. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4137137&forum_id=2#37263567) |
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Date: November 19th, 2018 12:46 PM Author: infuriating hissy fit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4137137&forum_id=2#37263574) |
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Date: November 19th, 2018 12:54 PM Author: Ungodly Messiness Indian Lodge Fair. Things are slow for me right now...so maybe I'm just a bit deluded (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4137137&forum_id=2#37263633) |
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Date: November 19th, 2018 1:13 PM Author: appetizing center (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4137137&forum_id=2#37263753) |
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Date: November 19th, 2018 7:24 PM Author: Saffron titillating box office (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4137137&forum_id=2#37266028) |
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Date: November 20th, 2018 2:50 AM Author: cerise disgusting hall multi-billionaire (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4137137&forum_id=2#37268530) |
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Date: November 19th, 2018 11:18 AM Author: thriller pearly set This is biglaw vs. non biglaw alternatives, right? Assuming so, here it goes:
Paycheck. Never not gotten a raise. Also get bonus every year.
Mostly prole-free environment (at least co-workers, plenty of prole secretaries).
The one good thing about billable hours is that it is NBD to run out to a doctor's appointment or haircut if you need to. Can always make it up later.
Get all Jewish holidays off even if not Jewish.
Working on cases that end up in the newspaper is nice compared to working on cases that nobody cares about.
Good employee benefits (health insurance, etc.).
Clients don't haggle over bills.
Support staff can actually be helpful. Have on-site reprographics people, trial support, marketing, etc.
DAT seamless and black car policy.
Business class airfares if going coast to coast. |
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Date: November 19th, 2018 11:35 AM Author: smoky church feces "Clients don't haggle over bills."
(not a partner) |
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Date: November 19th, 2018 12:07 PM Author: thriller pearly set No I only work on bet the company matters where insurance is paying. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4137137&forum_id=2#37263293) |
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Date: November 19th, 2018 12:37 PM Author: thriller pearly set Also haggling generally happens up front on rates, not after our bills have gone out. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4137137&forum_id=2#37263523) |
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Date: November 19th, 2018 6:19 PM Author: appetizing center some clients are now hiring these consulting firms to go through bills line by line (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4137137&forum_id=2#37265516) |
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Date: November 20th, 2018 2:23 AM Author: smoky church feces i've had clients where you can bill "research relating to back-end facility; prepare initial draft of credit agreement, 11.9" and others that demand that every task be accounted for. oddly, sometimes the former are more cost-sensitive and the latter are willing to pay a ton so long as they can go through the exercise of pretending to care. but the guy is flame, as his follow-up bait shows (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4137137&forum_id=2#37268488) |
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Date: November 19th, 2018 6:39 PM Author: metal khaki nursing home private investor Insurance companies don't pay for bet the company litigation. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4137137&forum_id=2#37265638) |
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Date: November 19th, 2018 11:44 AM Author: cheese-eating mood (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4137137&forum_id=2#37263099) |
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Date: November 19th, 2018 1:12 PM Author: Naked Duck-like Legend Stag Film all correct except I actually make the newspaper more in shitlaw than I ever did in biglaw. And in biglaw, even when my cases made the paper I wasn't allowed to talk to reporters - strict rule that only partners could talk to press (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4137137&forum_id=2#37263748) |
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Date: November 19th, 2018 11:24 AM Author: Stirring location the prestige
deeply intellectual conversations with high-powered colleagues
being at the center of transformative transactions and cases
advising some of the most prominent and important companies and execs on deeply important matters
going home every day knowing you added value
the mentorship of brilliant industry vets
so many doors opened |
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Date: November 19th, 2018 11:43 AM Author: Exhilarant aggressive resort On his tomb: "He added value." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4137137&forum_id=2#37263085) |
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Date: November 19th, 2018 11:55 AM Author: hyperventilating garnet ape "deeply intellectual conversations with high-powered colleagues"
Please expound |
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Date: November 19th, 2018 12:23 PM Author: Exhilarant aggressive resort "So then I was like, much like a subsidiary that's wholly owned, I do everything my mother in law asks of me! Hahaha..." *laughter fades* *ice clinks in glass*. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4137137&forum_id=2#37263430) |
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Date: November 19th, 2018 12:40 PM Author: tantric roast beef space Loool (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4137137&forum_id=2#37263535) |
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Date: November 19th, 2018 12:42 PM Author: hyperventilating garnet ape (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4137137&forum_id=2#37263553) |
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Date: November 19th, 2018 11:52 AM Author: indigo headpube there were things i appreciated about biglaw (great support staff, generally sharp/hardworking people, lockstep bonuses, etc.)
loved, though?
the only thing i loved about biglaw was the deferment pay/clerk bonus, which is hard to count bc it was something that they gave u for NOT being in biglaw
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Date: November 19th, 2018 11:52 AM Author: talented bearded legal warrant Car service (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4137137&forum_id=2#37263162) |
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Date: November 19th, 2018 11:57 AM Author: curious flesh digit ratio national Every additional day I spend doing BigLaw work chips away at the kind of person I want to be. Can't wait to bail. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4137137&forum_id=2#37263204) |
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Date: November 19th, 2018 12:04 PM Author: irradiated costumed meetinghouse I send them shit I don’t want to do myself (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4137137&forum_id=2#37263265) |
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Date: November 19th, 2018 12:07 PM Author: Know-it-all disrespectful business firm (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4137137&forum_id=2#37263286) |
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Date: November 19th, 2018 12:43 PM Author: infuriating hissy fit Paycheck obv.
Generally can make my own schedule. I take two hours at lunch to go to the gym everyday and no one bothers me about it if it doesnt affect my work (it doesnt)
I get to rack up a lot of travel miles in my current role which cuts down on vacation expenses. All travel is business class.
Thats about it |
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Date: November 19th, 2018 12:54 PM Author: startled thirsty queen of the night The all-nighters. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4137137&forum_id=2#37263640) |
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Date: November 19th, 2018 1:05 PM Author: Pea-brained emerald bawdyhouse The single best thing about it is that you realize no one is really all that smart or talented that they bend the world to their will on sheer ability. Maybe a very seldom few, but almost everyone in law or finance got to a high station through some amount of good timing/luck. I gather this is not the case in truly IQ-intensive fields, but it's definitely true of white collar work, including engineers (in some way especially with engineers/programmers because their mechanism sorts specifically for extroversion and social skills in a corporation despite the fact that everything prior to the Director level going back to high school does the opposite). Once you get comfortable with that idea it makes a lot of the rest of your path in life tolerable, though oftentimes still maddening when you see relatively dumb people do well/get money. It also means that over the long term my persistently striverish friends and classmates are held back because they will never absorb this idea, and will look more and more autistic and annoying as their careers progress.
This wasn't something I fully learned and absorded while I was still in biglaw, but it's something I've eventually gained by moving up the ranks at my in-house megacorp gig, and have had many conversations about it with friends who stayed in biglaw and made partner and they report the same feeling. And it actually helps to go in-house and see these big name partners as outside counsel when they are in full ass-kissing mode and you as the customer get to see the discussion evaluating their work and the cost of it. |
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Date: November 19th, 2018 1:08 PM Author: Ungodly Messiness Indian Lodge so...i should just bill min hours and looksmax? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4137137&forum_id=2#37263727) |
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Date: November 19th, 2018 1:11 PM Author: Pea-brained emerald bawdyhouse No you should bill your balls off, but realize that it may be overlooked and that's not the end of the world and you can find your way to something better one way or another. And certainly do looksmax, but not for biglaw (LOL). Looksmax to deal with life in the Tinderocracy hypergamy reality that is 2018. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4137137&forum_id=2#37263740) |
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Date: November 19th, 2018 1:05 PM Author: bright stage when amphetamine psychosis sets in and 7.6 and 9.2 begin to dance around each other like sugar plums (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4137137&forum_id=2#37263709) |
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Date: November 19th, 2018 1:07 PM Author: Multi-colored Garrison Competent opposing counsel. I now do random legal work for my own investments and relatively small potatos stuff for other clients and lol at quality of work/responsiveness/negotiation styles/lack of professionalism (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4137137&forum_id=2#37263721) |
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Date: November 19th, 2018 4:53 PM Author: hyperventilating garnet ape Expound on negotiation styles (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4137137&forum_id=2#37265004) |
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Date: November 20th, 2018 10:47 PM Author: nubile mother library (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4137137&forum_id=2#37274369) |
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Date: November 19th, 2018 1:23 PM Author: Swashbuckling Citrine Stead Old Irish Cottage Aside from the money I really liked having a ncie office with an incredible view. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4137137&forum_id=2#37263836) |
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Date: November 19th, 2018 3:41 PM Author: house-broken philosopher-king Nothing I loved about biglaw, but one thing people don’t appreciate is how (almost) everyone is smart and professional. Yes lots of people are assholes, but I can only think of a few people either in your own firm or opposing/co-counsel who are straight up dumb. In house, you deal with a lot of dumb people, because they are not in legal or other white collar/professional areas, either within your own company or at service providers. These people don’t understand deadlines or being responsive or understand any concepts outside of doing the same 5 things they always do.
Another thing good about biglaw is that it’s not a bad network to have and it does give you credibility and have resume value even after you leave, assuming you stick around in a career where things like that matter. |
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Date: November 19th, 2018 4:05 PM Author: appetizing center guy above says no one is smart (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4137137&forum_id=2#37264773) |
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Date: November 19th, 2018 4:18 PM Author: Razzle-dazzle cuck if you can't find the dummie in the room, look within.... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4137137&forum_id=2#37264844) |
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Date: November 19th, 2018 5:20 PM Author: dashing corner weed whacker Nutella doesn't "get" it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4137137&forum_id=2#37265151) |
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Date: November 19th, 2018 5:28 PM Author: appetizing center (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4137137&forum_id=2#37265197) |
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Date: November 19th, 2018 6:03 PM Author: house-broken philosopher-king Guy above says nobody is “that smart.” That doesn’t mean they aren’t smart at all. Not getting not an aspie discussion about degrees of intelligence. I don’t think you understand that your average officer worker literally has no analytical abilities whatsoever. They just do the work they’re told without understanding why. Your average biglaw associate understands the issues and strategies and doesn’t require tons of explanation to complete tasks and “get it.” That requires a certain level of intelligence and professionalism. I work with people who are “experts” at implementing Dodd Frank and they have no idea what any of the legislation means or the purpose behind it. It can be quite frustrating. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4137137&forum_id=2#37265413) |
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Date: November 19th, 2018 7:28 PM Author: Razzle-dazzle cuck nutella is 100% cr. ljl at saying biglawyers at top firms are no smarter than typical office drones in corporate america. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4137137&forum_id=2#37266063) |
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Date: November 19th, 2018 5:04 PM Author: Passionate sexy public bath yarmulke biglaw is full of slutty milfs and shrews dressed like office porno whores (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4137137&forum_id=2#37265070) |
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Date: November 20th, 2018 8:23 PM Author: talented bearded legal warrant Huh? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4137137&forum_id=2#37273461) |
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Date: November 19th, 2018 5:08 PM Author: bright stage the Swedish "visting lawyer" LLM who unbuttons that one extra blouse button at happy hour
the korean 32 year old counsel who always somehow manages to flash her panties when she moves in her seat
the milfatron funds decathlon runner from new jersey who loves making excuses to go over her changes in person
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Date: November 20th, 2018 10:56 PM Author: aqua blathering school cafeteria Seek help. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4137137&forum_id=2#37274422) |
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Date: November 19th, 2018 6:31 PM Author: Elite dilemma biglawler here, sup (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4137137&forum_id=2#37265591) |
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Date: November 20th, 2018 2:27 AM Author: misunderstood clown you barely made it through a humanities degree at shitty NYU. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4137137&forum_id=2#37268497) |
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Date: November 20th, 2018 10:21 PM Author: Mind-boggling Candlestick Maker Range (SNU MA in Gender Studies) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4137137&forum_id=2#37274172) |
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Date: November 20th, 2018 2:27 AM Author: misunderstood clown The suicide rate. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4137137&forum_id=2#37268495) |
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Date: November 20th, 2018 3:08 AM Author: bonkers slate area Money is about it
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Date: November 20th, 2018 10:41 AM Author: spruce soul-stirring site giraffe The people have bad personalities but at least they aren't dumb. I'm not surrounded by 110 IQs like in nearly any other professional workplace. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4137137&forum_id=2#37269506) |
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Date: November 20th, 2018 10:49 AM Author: spruce soul-stirring site giraffe When I wrote the above I didn't read any of the answers yet. A lot of others also seem to value this - having smart people around you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4137137&forum_id=2#37269563) |
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Date: November 20th, 2018 11:10 AM Author: bonkers slate area dumb people talking about sports and chicks are 180 compared to biglaw smarts opining about orange man bad. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4137137&forum_id=2#37269758) |
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Date: November 20th, 2018 11:09 AM Author: Jet Insecure Mad-dog Skullcap Only at the top end. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4137137&forum_id=2#37269754) |
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Date: November 20th, 2018 11:09 AM Author: flirting heaven pisswyrm Seniority is nice when you're senior (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4137137&forum_id=2#37269756) |
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