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the most interesting political ideas are on the right
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Date: January 19th, 2019 12:01 PM Author: carnelian high-end organic girlfriend community account (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181206&forum_id=2#37620540) |
Date: January 19th, 2019 12:02 PM Author: mind-boggling blathering mental disorder business firm Racism isn't interesting. It's been around a long time. More depressing than interesting. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181206&forum_id=2#37620543) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 12:09 PM Author: carnelian high-end organic girlfriend community account flame
the left basically has SJWism and socialism, the right has many more divisions within itself |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 12:13 PM Author: mind-boggling blathering mental disorder business firm The left has plenty of divisions, and they are usually around real policy proposals, because the left has actual experts. The rights "experts" are hack lobbyist shill types trying to lower taxes for their rich oligarchs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181206&forum_id=2#37620592) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 12:13 PM Author: carnelian high-end organic girlfriend community account lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181206&forum_id=2#37620594) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 12:19 PM Author: Razzmatazz mustard stage How many meetings did google have with Obama again? What percent of wall street is on dems side? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181206&forum_id=2#37620624) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 1:11 PM Author: twinkling bearded institution yarmulke Lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181206&forum_id=2#37620828) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 1:27 PM Author: aqua cruise ship fortuitous meteor aren't you like in your 40s? this is something that some 19 year old wide-eyed liberal college kid would say (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181206&forum_id=2#37620897) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 1:40 PM Author: Rose address He’s why the NPC meme was created (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181206&forum_id=2#37620942) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 1:47 PM Author: razzle hospital (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181206&forum_id=2#37620972) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 1:55 PM Author: poppy feces tattoo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181206&forum_id=2#37621018) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 11:11 PM Author: exhilarant rigpig philosopher-king (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181206&forum_id=2#37623695) |
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Date: January 20th, 2019 2:32 AM Author: confused faggotry base (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181206&forum_id=2#37624818) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 1:52 PM Author: Exciting state (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181206&forum_id=2#37621000) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 1:47 PM Author: razzle hospital lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181206&forum_id=2#37620974) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 5:43 PM Author: Blue Doobsian Trailer Park lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181206&forum_id=2#37622372) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 5:50 PM Author: soggy cruel-hearted point gaming laptop /r/politics (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181206&forum_id=2#37622401) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 12:14 PM Author: Razzmatazz mustard stage The idea that there are no meaningful differences between ancestry groups leads to tons of perverse and insanely stupid policies. I am sure you feel really high and mighty when you call people racist but that doesnt change anything. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181206&forum_id=2#37620601) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 12:16 PM Author: Sick Idea He Suggested Idiot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181206&forum_id=2#37620607) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 1:47 PM Author: razzle hospital (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181206&forum_id=2#37620975) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 1:26 PM Author: Disturbing topaz locale It's actually fascinating. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181206&forum_id=2#37620892) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 1:48 PM Author: Beady-eyed Garrison Kill yourself. Thx (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181206&forum_id=2#37620976) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 8:09 PM Author: Magenta Bateful Weed Whacker Chapel Of course it's been around a long time. It's just another word for "common sense", noticing basic things, and generalizing from experience. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181206&forum_id=2#37623013) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 12:09 PM Author: titillating hyperactive black woman clown List them (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181206&forum_id=2#37620578) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 1:12 PM Author: Sticky meetinghouse Why would anyone care about an "interesting" political idea? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181206&forum_id=2#37620830) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 1:21 PM Author: Exciting state hey man if you don't want to speculate about techno-utopian monarchist collectives i don't know what to tell you (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181206&forum_id=2#37620872) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 1:26 PM Author: Sticky meetinghouse Why can't we run the country like a corporation - a board of elected directors with long terms, a president appointed by the board with actual powers, and then a judiciary and legislature under the executive?
the distribution of power and bottom-up election we have now is no good. |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 1:42 PM Author: orchid alpha travel guidebook bottom-up election will be the undoing of this country as we know it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181206&forum_id=2#37620947) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 1:51 PM Author: excitant mischievous famous landscape painting A parlimentary system? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181206&forum_id=2#37620991) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 1:57 PM Author: Sticky meetinghouse I'm talking elected oligarchy that runs the show and delegates. Think of a corporate board. it's like 10-15 people. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181206&forum_id=2#37621044) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 11:00 PM Author: electric public bath pervert No, the XVII Amendment was the end of us. We just don't know it yet. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181206&forum_id=2#37623657) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 11:07 PM Author: Sticky meetinghouse How many less than 100 is 15? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181206&forum_id=2#37623680) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 1:26 PM Author: titillating hyperactive black woman clown (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181206&forum_id=2#37620890) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 1:20 PM Author: Exciting state absolutely. this very board has a coherent right wing critique of consumer capitalism at the heart of it--a problem leftists identified but were completely incapable of forming a real response to. a lot of really kooky and interesting ideas are going to come from the right going forward, now that the left has been mainstream and in control of institutions for so long. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181206&forum_id=2#37620867) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 5:52 PM Author: Hairraiser space genital piercing cliffs on this cogent right wing critique of consumer capitalism? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181206&forum_id=2#37622412) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 5:56 PM Author: cerebral becky puppy that goes back a long ways. right-wing thinkers have attacked capitalism a lot over the decades. that's what "third positionism" was. in the modern era, it's kind of a reaction to the collapse of the anti-corporate left and the rise of "woke capital" and its lackey SJWs. it's a rejection of the cold war-era right-wing reflexive worship of "the market" and a return to the understanding that markets are merely tools, often manipulated tools, and that social interests are foundational and ought to be served by economics rather than the other way around. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181206&forum_id=2#37622434) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 6:14 PM Author: Hairraiser space genital piercing Thanks. I think I've seen an anti-GC, pro-family thread on xo (i.e. traditional family with children) which does seem right-wing. But I guess what I'm missing is why is this critique right-wing rather than left-wing? Maybe because the proposed solution is altering consumer behavior (rather than legislating the problems away), and also because the goal is something regarding the traditional family (which is not a goal of the modern left)? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181206&forum_id=2#37622522) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 8:46 PM Author: Sick Idea He Suggested Idiot I sense that the Bourgeoisie (owners of capital) weren't really cognizant of just how unhappy the "right-wing" voters were becoming in recent decades. They had focused their propaganda efforts on infiltrating "left-wing" groups, trying to steer the mental focus of leftism away from socialist economics rather turning the focus towards a smattering of often contradictory non-classbased "grievance politics". (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181206&forum_id=2#37623128) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 11:13 PM Author: electric public bath pervert Respectfully, the way you think about "right wing" is going to change moving forward. The ideas on the right are in the Tucker Carlson/nationalist right sphere, which is not very far removed from Bernie Sanders. In sum: culture matters; capitalism is great but cannot be relied upon to solve cultural issues; being pro-military sometimes means bringing the troops home.
Most Americans feel this way. |
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Date: January 20th, 2019 10:41 AM Author: Hairraiser space genital piercing ty. I recognize your "in sum" list as ideas that are gaining traction across the spectrum. But I am still struggling to understand what is the core definition of "right wing" that you see in the future (i.e. how is it distinguished from Bernie--*more* reliance on free markets but still less than today's version by the bourgeosie?) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181206&forum_id=2#37625674) |
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Date: January 20th, 2019 2:54 AM Author: cerebral becky puppy one HUGE factor is that the left supports open borders for developed nations now, which is directly contradictory to goals like environmental protection, wage protections, demographic stability, etc. the pool of immigration-restrictionist leftists has gotten exceedingly small just within the past 20 years. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181206&forum_id=2#37624845) |
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Date: January 20th, 2019 2:30 AM Author: vivacious gunner fanboi Well put (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181206&forum_id=2#37624816) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 5:57 PM Author: Exciting state was simply trying to hint at xo ted, but there are many: capitalism is an engine that is good at accomplishing tasks, but if you let its only task be increasing GDP, it does not directly improve human flourishing or anything we actually care about. one (catholic) critique is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distributism (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181206&forum_id=2#37622437) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 6:22 PM Author: Hairraiser space genital piercing Huh, that's interesting, never heard of it. Sort of a small c conservative sort of idea, but with strong antitrust enforcement. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181206&forum_id=2#37622567) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 11:14 PM Author: electric public bath pervert Nicely put, den. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181206&forum_id=2#37623712) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 8:50 PM Author: Chestnut infuriating boltzmann by coherent you mean crying mixed with a total rejection of logic and economics? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181206&forum_id=2#37623149) |
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Date: January 20th, 2019 10:49 AM Author: stirring olive crotch depressive (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181206&forum_id=2#37625706) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 1:36 PM Author: aqua cruise ship fortuitous meteor honestly right-wing political ideas aren't that interesting either. i mean there really aren't very many "political ideas" that are actually constructive or useful. we already know what works and what doesn't work from thousands of years of human civilizational reference. beyond that there isn't a whole lot left to "discuss"
the reason why you only ever see "left-wing" political ideas discussed is mostly because they are all just really bad, destructive shit that nobody has ever tried or discussed before because they are obviously bad
it's like discussing new formations and playcalling in football simply for the sake of discussing new things. like yeah, you could try to run an offensive package with 2 offensive linemen, 5 running backs, 4 wide receivers and no QB, but it's obviously fucking terrible and wouldn't work. just like running a civilization on the principle of re-distributing as many resources as possible to the least productive segments of your population. wow, so innovative and interesting! |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 1:44 PM Author: yapping marketing idea station We need to bring back dueling, don't really care whether it is left or right "wing". Any candidate who ran on it would have my vote. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181206&forum_id=2#37620956) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 1:47 PM Author: carnelian high-end organic girlfriend community account the "right" includes the religious including fundamentalists, luddites, libertarians or anyone who believes in small or limited gov't , fascists, sovereign citizen types, etc (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181206&forum_id=2#37620970) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 1:50 PM Author: razzle hospital Just like the left includes radical feminists, socialists, communists, Islamists, liberal neocons, black nationalists, etc. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181206&forum_id=2#37620985) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 1:58 PM Author: Exciting state those groups are all fascinating, especially compared to cookie cutter leftists (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181206&forum_id=2#37621048) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 5:33 PM Author: carnelian high-end organic girlfriend community account and they all have some sort of legitimate claim within origins of the country and its constitution however fringe their other views may be (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181206&forum_id=2#37622321) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 11:17 PM Author: electric public bath pervert No, all of those groups weaken our nation. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181206&forum_id=2#37623726) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 1:49 PM Author: laughsome dun office like DACA protections which Trump is about to propose today? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181206&forum_id=2#37620980) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 1:52 PM Author: carnelian high-end organic girlfriend community account lazy flame (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181206&forum_id=2#37620999) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 1:53 PM Author: laughsome dun office so he's not going to propose DACA protections today? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181206&forum_id=2#37621004) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 2:27 PM Author: thriller wine haunted graveyard leave trump out of this. he's done here and has been for quite some time. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181206&forum_id=2#37621285) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 2:36 PM Author: carnelian high-end organic girlfriend community account (false flag shtick) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181206&forum_id=2#37621323) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 2:38 PM Author: thriller wine haunted graveyard https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Un3OhYs-tCE#t=25m23s (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181206&forum_id=2#37621342) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 2:45 PM Author: Orange lay It’s such a fucking lazy schtick also (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181206&forum_id=2#37621374) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 2:50 PM Author: thriller wine haunted graveyard http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181165&mc=2&forum_id=2 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181206&forum_id=2#37621395) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 5:37 PM Author: talented smoky blood rage location for them, it is perpetually 1980. dash in a new flavor of racism now and then and boom you have conservative thought (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181206&forum_id=2#37622345) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 5:41 PM Author: Exciting state there's a big disagreement on the dissident right how far back we need to go back to. one of my best friends thinks it's the 17th century in the height of civilized monarchy. i think it's the early 19th century when we could have still formulated a better response to the enlightenment while conceding the good points it had. libs could learn something about intellectual diversity by actually paying attention to what the right is doing, lol at writing off everything as "a new flavor of racism" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181206&forum_id=2#37622362) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 5:46 PM Author: sienna sickened wrinkle we need to go back before westphalia (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181206&forum_id=2#37622381) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 5:53 PM Author: Exciting state while we're at it we can go full on ONE GOD, ONE CHURCH (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181206&forum_id=2#37622417) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 5:46 PM Author: at-the-ready trip bbw ceo libs seem to confuse the corporate-approved ben shapiro "right wing" with the dissident right, which is where all the action is. the institutional right is pretty much dead, and reached its terminus with guys like paul ryan. that's considered part of "the right" in the US, but it's certainly not the RELEVANT right. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181206&forum_id=2#37622383) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 5:55 PM Author: carnelian high-end organic girlfriend community account the GOPe and Dems might as well be the same party (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181206&forum_id=2#37622425) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 5:56 PM Author: Blue Doobsian Trailer Park plenty I'd take over McCain or Flake (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181206&forum_id=2#37622431) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 8:50 PM Author: Sick Idea He Suggested Idiot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181206&forum_id=2#37623152) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 5:56 PM Author: mind-boggling blathering mental disorder business firm The Shapiro wing enables the racists. The new wing is racist. Some of the racists happen to be on some nationalist socialist kick that aligns in some ways with stuff people like AOC say, but probably not even half of them. Most of them are just Boomer corporate tea party types all riled up about brown people. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181206&forum_id=2#37622433) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 5:58 PM Author: cerebral becky puppy i'll try to be polite but blunt - if you are responding to this discussion by ranting about "racists," you aren't mentally capable of participating here. you're just reciting a catechism. we're talking about ideas and you're responding with a script. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181206&forum_id=2#37622443) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 6:16 PM Author: talented smoky blood rage location what idea do you have that results in non-white people being better off?
what idea do you have that results in rich white people being worse off? |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 7:19 PM Author: cerebral becky puppy there is no such unitary category as "non-white".
but we're talking about the DISSIDENT right, and there is plenty of support for corporate antitrust/confiscatory taxes against "the rich." drying up their supply of illegal/helot labor, focusing on social metrics other than GDP growth, etc. |
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Date: January 20th, 2019 2:59 AM Author: swashbuckling stage cr. lmao at how shitliberally retarded that post was. "what ideas do you have that make non-white people better off???" so, equivalently, what ideas do you have that make white people relatively worse off than everyone else? in other words, the criterion for non-"racism" is having ideas with a FUK WHITEY element to them? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181206&forum_id=2#37624850) |
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Date: January 20th, 2019 3:04 AM Author: vivacious gunner fanboi The real issue is it's a loaded question that inherently assumes economic gain is the primary goal of governance (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181206&forum_id=2#37624857) |
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Date: January 20th, 2019 10:50 AM Author: stirring olive crotch depressive thank you (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181206&forum_id=2#37625713) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 8:52 PM Author: Sick Idea He Suggested Idiot "Ocasio-Cortez wants a 70-80% income tax on the rich. I agree! Start with the Koch Bros. -- and also make it WEALTH tax." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181206&forum_id=2#37623165) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 7:28 PM Author: razzle-dazzle cuck (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181206&forum_id=2#37622825) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 8:11 PM Author: Magenta Bateful Weed Whacker Chapel (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181206&forum_id=2#37623027) |
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Date: January 20th, 2019 2:57 AM Author: swashbuckling stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181206&forum_id=2#37624847) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 6:18 PM Author: aqua cruise ship fortuitous meteor i refuse to believe you aren't shtick. nobody can possibly be this dumb (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181206&forum_id=2#37622548) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 6:20 PM Author: talented smoky blood rage location we are NOT racist. if you want proof, see my n*****/jew/culture thread below (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181206&forum_id=2#37622561) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 11:23 PM Author: electric public bath pervert Outed as a dumb. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4181206&forum_id=2#37623769) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 10:58 PM Author: electric public bath pervert The left is destroying itself. The responsible left is not popular with voters and all of the "experts" are of this ilk.
The nationalist right has legs. A smarter, younger version of Trump would be unstoppable and wonderful for the nation. |