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Is XO for or against late term abortion? Aren't these cases usually tragic?
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Date: February 7th, 2019 12:15 AM Author: Clear Talented Pit Where the baby is born with extreme disabilities and will be expensive to take care of for the rest of its life? Seems better for society to just let these kids go if the moms aren't up for the lifetime financial and emotional commitment of a disabled baby. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37740490) |
Date: February 7th, 2019 12:15 AM Author: ivory cheese-eating whorehouse knife if thats the limit its reasonable. thats not the limit in the law. "usually" isnt the standard for killing infants. |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 12:17 AM Author: Clear Talented Pit CNN: Can you explain why abortions happen later in a pregnancy?
Conti: There are many reasons why women may need to access abortion later in pregnancy, including maternal health endangerment, diagnosis of fetal abnormalities or restrictive laws delaying earlier access to abortion care. Those exceptionally rare cases that happen after 24 weeks are often because a fetus has a condition that cannot be treated and will never be able to survive -- regardless of the gestational age or trimester. It's this exact reason that it's nonsensical to legislate these cases: Nobody arrives at the decision to have an abortion after 24 weeks carelessly. Rather, it's the rare case of rapidly decompensating maternal heart disease or a delayed diagnosis of anencephaly, where the fetus forms without a complete brain or skull, that bring people to these decisions.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/06/health/late-term-abortion-explainer/index.html |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 12:20 AM Author: ivory cheese-eating whorehouse knife i think its important to learn to read news articles and recognize where the hinges are between accuracy and creeping ideological conditioning. In this case it would be the phrase " Nobody arrives at the decision to have an abortion after 24 weeks carelessly" and "it's this exact reason that it's nonsensical to legislate these cases"
If this were the limt - i.e. the law stated doctors could not legally preform late term abortions absent their judgment the mother faced death or serious bodily harm or the baby faced significant deahtlike health issue - it would be reasonable. thats not the limit in the law. |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 12:46 PM Author: well-lubricated university Define "death like." Let's say the baby has HLHS--can live a shitlife until age 18 or so and cost parents and/or society (depending on parent's income) tens of millions of dollars. Should you abortionfaggots be able to force parents to shoulder that burden and hope medical science has a breakthrough because you don't want to make Baby Jesus cry?
Now do Cystic Fibrosis.
Abortionfaggots are such low IQ morons. They literally just repeat whatever their barely literate, 105 IQ Jimmy Swaggart minister tricks them into saying. |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 3:30 PM Author: ivory cheese-eating whorehouse knife I used deathlike because I was too tired to type it out. I personally think those examples are also within the realm of reasonable for late term.
Why dont you address the fact that there is no mention of the child or mother's health in the VA or Vermont laws cause you haven't yet and I get the feeling you aren't going to. |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 12:13 PM Author: wonderful very tactful goyim If people only have abortions in extreme circumstances why not make that the law? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37742277) |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 12:48 PM Author: well-lubricated university Because that's literally already what happens and anyone looking to bypass that restriction would just need to find a shady doctor who would sign a form, same as today with your side's idiotic 18 weeks bills. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37742437) |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 1:03 PM Author: wonderful very tactful goyim So why not throw that doctor in jail for malpractice/fraud? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37742546) |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 1:08 PM Author: well-lubricated university Sure in theory, and in theory you will limit the number of people who want to even deal with the hassle, and therefore have a lot of success denying healthcare the thousands of parents every year who face these horrific situations where their unborn child has a significant birth defect. In reality you will never prove that this doctor was wrong in his medical conclusion, nor will you want to expend the resources to try, and thus will never catch him unless he's some kind of Kermit Gosnell psychopath. So you've just made things significantly worse for people who are already being dealt a shithand to chase a made up boogeyman because it makes you feel self-righteous. At that point, instead of worrying about when fetuses should be allowed to be killed, you should just kill yourself. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37742567) |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 1:11 PM Author: wonderful very tactful goyim Deal with what hassle? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37742591) |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 1:33 PM Author: well-lubricated university Do you think in states where prolifefags have managed to pass a 20 weeks laws there's no concern that they might also organize efforts to scrutinize doctors who regularly perform abortions beyond 20 weeks? Do you think there could be licensing concerns for the facilities? Maybe also concern that having shitloads of protesters outside could impact their finances?
How low IQ are you IRL? I seriously hope you're just trolling. |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 1:52 PM Author: wonderful very tactful goyim You're being very vague. I don't know why doctors would have any more trouble complying with restrictions on abortion than, say, restrictions on prescribing opiates. Doctors seem pretty capable of following the law and most hospitals have lawyers who can help them if they're in a gray area. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37742855) |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 1:57 PM Author: well-lubricated university Read the link below. The Texas law is literally an exception only for a fetal abnormality "incompatible with life outside the womb." What the fuck does that mean? Any infant born and not fed won't survive outside the womb. OK, so some amount of care is assumed and therefore not covered by this "incompatible" designation. If your baby is born with HLHS and technically will survive for a few months but will need a heart surgery before its first birthday--is that "incompatible?" If I'm an OBGYN in Texas I'm not going to subject myself to any of this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37742889) |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 1:59 PM Author: wonderful very tactful goyim Seems like if you know for sure the abnormality is going to cause the baby to die, it would fall within the statute. Whether it would die right away or in a few months seems irrelevant. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37742901) |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 2:29 PM Author: well-lubricated university So how about Cystic Fibrosis. Is a baby with CF "incompatible" because it will need special interventions? Pretty sure every prolifefaggot you ask would tell you CF shouldn't count and they should be able to force people to have kids with CF and watch their children die in their 20s because abortions make Baby Jesus cry.
Or let's say the fetus has cancer. They will operate in utero but won't know until it's born if they got it all. No significant risk of metastasis to the mother.
Or how about SDS--lifespan of 35, absolute garbage immune system so every cold is life-threatening and usually requires hositalization. Should prolifefaggots get to tell people they have to assume that burden?
How do you not get to the point where you decide this is none of my business and I'd much rather leave it up to these people and their doctors? |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 2:32 PM Author: Salmon home I'm not aware of any mass epidemic of CF kids committing suicide in their teens. If you think the kid might make it to an age where they can understand and appreciate what it means to be alive, let them live and get whatever enjoyment they can out of life. If my daughter had some shit like that I would try to make her life as happy as enjoyable as possible under the circumstances, and I have zero sympathy for anyone who would kill her just because they don't want the hassle. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37743129) |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 2:40 PM Author: well-lubricated university Well then let's all hope your future unborn child has a serious heart defect that will bankrupt you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37743182) |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 2:39 PM Author: wonderful very tactful goyim Where there is uncertainty, err on the side of preserving the life of the baby. I think most teens with congenital diseases prefer life over death, and for the few who don't there is no way to know that ex ante. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37743176) |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 2:41 PM Author: well-lubricated university I seriously hope your future unborn child has HLHS. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37743187) |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 2:41 PM Author: wonderful very tactful goyim That says a lot about you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37743192) |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 2:45 PM Author: well-lubricated university I take it back, but you're being very fucking stupid and clearly lack basic empathy skills. You are the type of Christian that makes everyone else hate Christians. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37743214) |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 2:47 PM Author: wonderful very tactful goyim I'm irreligious. Like I said I only came to feel this way after my daughter was born (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37743231) |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 3:35 PM Author: ivory cheese-eating whorehouse knife "I take it back"
U pussy ass retard psychopath |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 5:06 PM Author: well-lubricated university I genuinely hope you and everyone you ever love or have loved or would have loved gets cancer immediately and is dead in a month, including, but not limited to, any unborn fetuses, and I will never ever take that back. HTFH. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37744048) |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 9:02 PM Author: ivory cheese-eating whorehouse knife Good for you. Be very proud of yourself.
I wish you and your loved ones health and happiness. |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 1:09 PM Author: lake library "or restrictive laws delaying earlier access to abortion care"
There is no way for libs to justify this being a legitimate reason. |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 1:14 AM Author: tantric aphrodisiac yarmulke church building the only people who are against abortion "in principle" are weird deontologist dorks who have the mental maturity of children
everyone else who is against abortion is against it because deep down inside, what they really want is to make sure that the desirable women with good genes have kids, but they're too pussy to support something like the Handmaiden's Tale world where this would actually be enforced. so instead they pretend like they are anti-abortion because of some sort of "moral principle" in a sad attempt to deal with their cognitive dissonance
there's a third group who will openly say they're okay with undesirables aborting their own kids as long as desirables are discouraged/prevented from aborting, but it's tough to find these people outside of the internet where they can say that kind of stuff with no repercussions |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 12:06 PM Author: ivory cheese-eating whorehouse knife Ur insane. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37742253) |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 12:14 PM Author: wonderful very tactful goyim I was pro-abortion until I had kids. Watching my daughter develop into the womb and emerge as a BEAUTIFUL BABY caused me to reevaluate everything. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37742282) |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 12:36 PM Author: tantric aphrodisiac yarmulke church building Ok why is this an argument against abortion lol
So you had kids and realized that reproduction is the highest honor a man can achieve. Now that you're aware of this - Why does this mean that we shouldn't allow people who are crazy enough to kill their own kids to kill their own kids? Why would we ever want those people to pass down their genetics?
You're just a guy in group 2 above who is too much of a pussy to admit it |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 1:06 PM Author: wonderful very tactful goyim Give the kid a chance. Many crazy people have normal kids. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37742559) |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 1:09 PM Author: tantric aphrodisiac yarmulke church building no they don't
for some reason XO types are all about biological determinism when it comes to stuff like IQ, because they're smart so it makes them feel good. but they're too pussy to face the truth about the rest of biological determinism
shit people make shit kids, and it is in society's best interest to prevent these people from reproducing. the exceptions are so few that they're not worth mentioning. abortion is the single most successful eugenics program in human history, and it's entirely voluntary with no coercion required |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 1:10 PM Author: wonderful very tactful goyim Not every crazy person is crazy because of genetics. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37742581) |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 1:46 PM Author: Rose territorial kitchen famous landscape painting no, no they dont (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37742816) |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 1:51 PM Author: wonderful very tactful goyim What about people who are crazy because they got lead poisoning as kids? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37742845) |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 2:42 PM Author: tantric aphrodisiac yarmulke church building lol is this some kind of lib shtick similar to "black people have low IQs due to poor nutrition"? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37743199) |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 3:09 PM Author: shimmering idiot gas station This is literally the reverse of what you said above, and not at all connected. Yes, individuals with normal genetics can get fucked because the environmental conditions cause this to occur. This doesn't mean that all, most, or many of the crazies in the world only exist because of the environmental conditions. Like it or not, much of it is genetic.
Let's say for the sake of argument that we play out your situation in which the environment is what's to blame for crazies, and not their genes. If someone is completely fucked in the head and is put in a situation where they need to raise a child, what makes you believe that they aren't going to have just as disastrous of an impact upon their child's mental health as lead in the water? |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 12:50 PM Author: drunken bat shit crazy chad "pro-abortion" flame jumped the shark at the third word no one who has ever been pro-choice would call it pro-abortion |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 1:04 PM Author: wonderful very tactful goyim That's exactly what I was. I thought abortion was good and should happen more often. Now I think fetuses are people. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37742550) |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 2:51 PM Author: Unholy lascivious orchestra pit I'm pro-abortion. I really WANT many people who shouldn't have kids to abort. In some cases we should "strongly encourage it" (the kid will be a retard). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37743258) |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 12:51 PM Author: well-lubricated university Now imagine that instead of how your 20 week appointment went with all the happy tears and hugging, instead the nurse kept taking 1000 pictures and wouldn't respond directly to any of your questions when you realized something was up. Then the doctor comes in and says "so there's a 50% chance your baby dies in utero and a 50% chance you can carry to term, but your baby will never walk and will be 50% to die by age 10. 'Best' case she lives to 18 and costs you $10M." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37742458) |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 1:05 PM Author: wonderful very tactful goyim If abortion was only legal in those kinds of circumstances I would be ok with it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37742556) |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 1:08 PM Author: well-lubricated university Then you are too lazy/stupid to understand the basic facts of this issue. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37742572) |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 1:11 PM Author: wonderful very tactful goyim I guess you're too lazy/stupid to explain what facts I'm missing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37742587) |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 1:40 PM Author: well-lubricated university Even in the studies that prolifefaggots cite to support the proposition that most late abortions are elective, over 25% of the late abortion population surveyed reports fetal abnormalities, health risk to mother, product of rape, incest or father of fetus is an abusive domestic partner. This describes over 3500 abortions per year in the U.S. This study is their primary source:
https://www.guttmacher.org/sites/default/files/pdfs/journals/3711005.pdf
So if you write the law to only allow abortion past 20 weeks on that basis, all any woman wanting an abortion would have to do is claim one of those criteria and find a doctor to back her up. Also these are old stats pre-genetic testing (circa 2005) so the number of fetal abnormalities and health risks detected in utero is rising.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5089140/
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Date: February 7th, 2019 1:48 PM Author: wonderful very tactful goyim If the domestic partner is abusive how does that justify killing the kid? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37742823) |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 9:57 PM Author: electric senate lol so 75% of “late term abortions” are elective? And of the remaining 25% are for specious “health of the mother” reasons, or because the father is “abusive”, neither of which would seem to justify decapitating a baby? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37745659) |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 1:43 PM Author: well-lubricated university Also, prolifefaggots are of course morons when they draft 20 weeks laws, so the obvious result of those laws will be nebulous standards like "incompatible with life outside the womb" so you literally have doctors in Texas telling pregnant woman at 20 weeks "your baby is at best going to be a vegetable its whole life and there's a good chance it will be stillborn, but I can't perform an abortion."
https://slate.com/technology/2013/07/texas-abortion-ban-after-20-weeks-prenatal-testing-reveals-birth-defects-then.html |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 1:49 PM Author: wonderful very tactful goyim Why not just ban abortion for healthy babies with no detectable abnormalities? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37742830) |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 2:29 PM Author: well-lubricated university Christ you're just too stupid to participate in this debate in any useful way. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37743114) |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 2:33 PM Author: Salmon home Is it really such a difficult question? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37743135) |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 2:43 PM Author: well-lubricated university Define "abnormality." Is slight mental retardation enough? What about if it's a little person? Kallman's Syndrome? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37743204) |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 2:39 PM Author: wonderful very tactful goyim I'm responding directly to what you said. I agree that where the fetus is severely fucked up abortion should be permitted. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37743171) |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 2:42 PM Author: well-lubricated university Dumb faggot the entire debate is a "where do you draw the line?" about what constitutes severely fucked up. Great that you have so many opinions about that, but no one gives a shit. Shut the fuck up and keep them to yourself. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37743197) |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 2:44 PM Author: Azure kink-friendly travel guidebook (hinged pumo) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37743209) |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 2:50 PM Author: wonderful very tactful goyim Seems like it's pretty easy to tell when a baby has no signs of any defect. Ultrasounds, amniocentesis and genetic testing are all viable means of ruling that out. If those results show something bad then yeah, it's a line drawing problem I agree. But if there are ZERO problems then why kill it? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37743248) |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 1:10 PM Author: lake library (Egg freezing shrew) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37742583) |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 10:25 PM Author: Submissive lay nibblets Do make the decision. Late 2nd and 3rd term abortions are unforgivable (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37745839) |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 1:05 PM Author: Bronze stage your opinion shouldn't count. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37742555) |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 1:07 PM Author: wonderful very tactful goyim Well I'm a registered voter. So it does. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37742565) |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 2:01 PM Author: Soul-stirring Gaming Laptop Depressive this is kinda nuts, buddy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37742912) |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 3:34 PM Author: comical clown guess i can't believe life begins at conception or i risk being labeled a child or having some weird ideology being imposed on me.
thanks THOT_RAVAGER |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 3:59 PM Author: tantric aphrodisiac yarmulke church building you're looking at it wrong. i'm fine with parents killing their kids after they've been born, too. infanticide has been practiced in every human culture and every civilization for the previous 99.999% of human history
read the above poasts about biological determinism for why this is sound reasoning |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 1:15 AM Author: sick naked hunting ground It's okay to put niggers underground without a sound. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37740745) |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 12:12 PM Author: Excitant theatre abortion, like homosexuality, is probably fine along the shady margins, and can have a eugenic affect. In a reasonably sized culture, there could be nods and winks and certain allowances.
Featuring abortion as some inalienable right, much less something central to womanhood, is absolutely sick and a symptom of a hedonistic, dying society waging war on its own vitality -- again like homosexuality.
In short, it should always have been a state issue, where local communities could allow for a reasonable practice of abortion, still in control of stigma and other social pressures towards healthy, happy families.
Locally, any woman who aborts a viable pregnancy in its latter terms for a suspicious reason should be shunned and shamed, just like a tranny who dances in front of kids. It should not be an issue for courts and legislatures, but instead for fathers and mothers and social gatherings. That these are national policy issues and litmus tests is absurd, and the USA is rapidly approaching its death. |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 1:09 PM Author: chocolate school cafeteria gay wizard (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37742580) |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 1:11 PM Author: lake library *wipes tear from eye* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37742590) |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 1:13 PM Author: well-lubricated university "It should not be an issue for courts and legislatures, but instead for fathers and mothers and social gatherings."
Which side is making it an issue in the courts?
The outcome you describe is where abortion is legal and permitted but discouraged. That's exactly the moderate pro-choice position "safe, legal and rare." That's the opposite of what prolifeniggers want. |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 1:38 PM Author: Cerise Buck-toothed Nursing Home Lettuce That's exactly the moderate pro-choice position "safe, legal and rare."
(it is 1986)
The 2019 "moderate" pro-choice position is a lot closer to #TweetYourAbortion |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 1:49 PM Author: well-lubricated university So we're agreed on safe, legal and rare? Cool. So to answer the OP, late term abortion opponents are morons and they should all kill themselves. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37742831) |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 1:53 PM Author: Alcoholic corner the majority of babies in New York are aborted. if pro-choice people want "rare", what are they doing about this? birth control is already free, schools already have comprehensive sex ed. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37742856) |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 2:02 PM Author: well-lubricated university 90% of abortions happen in the first trimester, so if we're interested in "rare" then the 1% that happen beyond 21 weeks is a complete distraction. If you're interested in services to avoid unwanted pregnancies, you should go down to your local planned parenthood office. Tell them you personally oppose abortion and don't want to help with any of their efforts toward providing abortions but want to help with all the other services they offer to prevent unwanted pregnancies. I'm sure they will be able to help you out. LOL FUCKING LOL CANT STOP LOLLING at the notion that the prolifefaggot side of this debate is doing anything like what Planned Parenthood is doing to prevent unwanted pregnancies other than abstinence only Sex Ed. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37742916) |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 3:12 PM Author: Alcoholic corner big wall of text but i can't find the part explaining how >50% of babies being aborted goes with "rare." you're like 25 years behind on the talking points. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37743400) |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 5:22 PM Author: well-lubricated university You have made two idiotic poasts in this thread. It's laughable that your criticism of pro-choice people is that they aren't doing enough to prevent unwanted pregnancies, when they are clearly the only people who do anything about this and the anti-abortion right supports policies that have the result of increasing unwanted pregnancies. I gather it bothers you a lot that some pro-choice people argue that abortion should be celebrated as an exercise of a freedom like voting. I agree with you that those pro-choice people are wrong and think they are very dumb, but still not as dumb as you are. They aren't quite dumb enough to think that because one person blatantly killed lots of people and others defended him before they realized what he did that everyone who ever said anything nice about him thinks he is great and did nothing wrong. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37744155) |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 9:38 PM Author: Alcoholic corner I didn't make that criticism at all. I said they have no preference for making abortion "rare". They brag about how common it is ("One in three women have at least one!"), wear Shout Your Abortion t-shirts, cheer celebrities like Whoopi Goldberg who jokes about her 4 abortions, that comedian who just joked that her first abortion was her "best" one, etc. Safe legal and rare was a slogan left behind in the 80s.
Libs and the MSM fully supported and defended Gosnell after his actions were revealed. It was discussed extensively on xo at the time. National newspapers later tried to keep it under wraps and stated that they would not cover it because it's merely "a local crime story" -- this is while they were covering Zimmerman 24/7. |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 2:03 PM Author: Soul-stirring Gaming Laptop Depressive > Which side is making it an issue in the courts?
youre not this dumb r u? |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 1:38 PM Author: Cerise Buck-toothed Nursing Home Lettuce fully CR (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37742770) |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 2:03 PM Author: Soul-stirring Gaming Laptop Depressive (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37742926) |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 2:49 PM Author: cerebral chapel (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37743245) |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 5:25 PM Author: turquoise death wish menage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37744175) |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 10:00 PM Author: electric senate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37745671) |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 12:42 PM Author: startling magical locale philosopher-king A fetus has weaker claim on life than a pig or a cow. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37742411) |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 12:55 PM Author: well-lubricated university If you're basing this on viability, the same is true of a 3 month old. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37742479) |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 1:34 PM Author: startling magical locale philosopher-king But birth is a useful bright line. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37742740) |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 1:57 PM Author: wonderful very tactful goyim Useful in what respect? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37742888) |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 3:36 PM Author: startling magical locale philosopher-king Useful to avoid a fight about the precise moment when sapience exists, personhood arises, object permanence develops, and so on. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37743562) |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 2:04 PM Author: Laughsome Sinister Laser Beams Center So is implantation. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37742932) |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 3:33 PM Author: startling magical locale philosopher-king I'm not Catholic. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37743543) |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 5:15 PM Author: well-lubricated university Catholics aren't cool with implantation as the line, which is why they oppose the morning after pill. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37744113) |
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Date: February 8th, 2019 4:50 AM Author: startling magical locale philosopher-king They really are kooky. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37746637) |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 12:48 PM Author: impertinent regret church (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37742444) |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 12:56 PM Author: spectacular nofapping legend Medical reasons aside, I can't think of a reason to allow a late term abortion
A few months should be enough time to decide whether to keep the baby. You can even find out who the real dad is before the 3rd month. |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 3:37 PM Author: startling magical locale philosopher-king Can you think of reasons to kill a pest? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37743571) |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 1:18 PM Author: Laughsome Sinister Laser Beams Center What irks me is the health of the mother stuff. There is a HUGE difference between an abortion and an emergency induction. In the latter, it is a risky procedure but doctors will make every effort to save the baby. In the former, the END-GOAL is for the baby to be terminated. It's not the same at all, but libs are constantly equating the two. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37742631) |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 1:34 PM Author: Alcoholic corner Dems want to induce labor and then refuse treatment to the baby born alive or coax it into death through exposure (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37742742) |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 1:45 PM Author: Laughsome Sinister Laser Beams Center Yeah I mean after 37 weeks certainly it's a fully-formed baby. So at that point you'd be talking about starving it to death, which is monstrous. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37742811) |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 1:48 PM Author: Alcoholic corner and that is what Dems are for and what doctors have done for years, with full defense by libs, ACLU, Planned Parenthood etc. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37742824) |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 1:53 PM Author: well-lubricated university LOL link, prolifefaggot? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37742863) |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 1:59 PM Author: Alcoholic corner LifeSiteNews.com
Gosnell The Movie |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 2:30 PM Author: well-lubricated university LOL Gosnell is now all pro-choice people? The guy who got three life sentences? Kill yourself retard. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37743116) |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 3:16 PM Author: Alcoholic corner yes exactly, after grassroots pro-lifers spent month campaigning against him, and the general public caught the lib media and politicians red handed lying about him and how PA Dems, the PP clinic down the street, and the nearest hospital covered for him and others like him for years. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37743433) |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 10:02 PM Author: electric senate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37745677) |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 1:44 PM Author: Rose territorial kitchen famous landscape painting all pregnan women should be jailed until they have the baby and remain in jail until they get a job and support the baby for the rest of its life. if Mr Trump can build a 1,954 mile wall, we can certainly find a way to jail all pregnan women in this country. |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 2:06 PM Author: Amber self-absorbed resort fortuitous meteor Reminder: Vermont is passing a law permitting abortions until birth, no strings attached (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37742941) |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 2:43 PM Author: Vivacious sienna set brethren Substantial threat to mother's life and serious deformities seems fine. What's coming down the pike I'd no restrictions at all. Can't get behind that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37743203) |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 2:55 PM Author: Unholy lascivious orchestra pit I'm not sure I understand the argument for killing a fetus that is viable (like, in the 8th month) unless there's a medical issue. At that point, induce labor and surrender the kid. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37743274) |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 3:18 PM Author: Alcoholic corner It's sort of like a pagan human sacrifice. Libs with no religion want a sacramental ritual to celebrate, so they don't feel left out and unfulfilled. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37743447) |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 3:39 PM Author: startling magical locale philosopher-king I'm not sure I understand the argument for giving extensive rights to something that doesn't even give a shit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37743581) |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 10:26 PM Author: Submissive lay nibblets When do humans start giving a shit? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37745846) |
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Date: February 8th, 2019 4:50 AM Author: startling magical locale philosopher-king Maybe months after birth. It takes a while. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37746638) |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 11:52 PM Author: Unholy lascivious orchestra pit Idk that a fetus the day before birth gives any less of a shit than a baby the day after. In any event, I don't think "they have to deliver you alive if possible rather than killing you" constitutes "extensive rights." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37746205) |
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Date: February 8th, 2019 4:53 AM Author: startling magical locale philosopher-king I'm not going to have a boring discussion about the word "extensive." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37746641) |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 5:26 PM Author: turquoise death wish menage eugenics (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37744190) |
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Date: February 8th, 2019 12:31 AM Author: Magenta fragrant crackhouse athletic conference I agree that the kids should be surrendered and developed into super soldiers (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37746336) |
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Date: February 8th, 2019 4:55 PM Author: Unholy lascivious orchestra pit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37749316) |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 8:57 PM Author: Crawly claret institution It’s murder. Plain and simple. I have no pity for “doctors” that perform this. None. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37745311) |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 10:01 PM Author: Sapphire charismatic theater stage useless brakes no abortions for white women mandatory for everyone else |
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Date: February 7th, 2019 11:47 PM Author: jet-lagged therapy macaca Americans' support for the legality of abortion varies sharply when they are asked to evaluate it on a trimester basis, which is consistent with the pattern Gallup has found for more than 20 years. Six in 10 U.S. adults think abortion should generally be legal in the first three months of pregnancy. However, support drops by about half, to 28%, for abortions conducted in the second three months, and by half again, to 13%, in the final three months. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37746190) |
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Date: February 8th, 2019 12:16 AM Author: black bateful queen of the night stain im pro eugenics. abort the fetuses with bad genes
Honorable WASP babies should be protected starting the minute after conception. |
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Date: February 8th, 2019 12:30 AM Author: Magenta fragrant crackhouse athletic conference Yes, I believe even disabled people have a right to not be murdered by doctors (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37746333) |
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Date: February 8th, 2019 4:55 AM Author: startling magical locale philosopher-king But pulling the plug on veggies is ok, right? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37746642) |
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Date: February 8th, 2019 4:56 PM Author: Unholy lascivious orchestra pit Disagree. The default should be to be murdered by doctors (or "euthanasia techs"). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#37749319) |
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Date: July 18th, 2020 11:42 AM Author: Snowy newt (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4196387&forum_id=2#40626836) |