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Territorial haunting stag film
  02/11/19
it's a great car
Lavender sex offender scourge upon the earth
  02/11/19
Which car and why.
Wonderful address legend
  02/11/19
Old wagons can go for 300K+ ez.
crimson brunch
  02/11/19
who the fuck is buying a used volvo for 300K, you mean 300K ...
buff really tough guy immigrant
  02/12/19
lol your IQ?
green aromatic hunting ground
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black electric furnace
  02/12/19
very low, answer the q pls
buff really tough guy immigrant
  02/12/19
some of the older models are really good value. Built like t...
crimson brunch
  02/11/19
Volvo turbos are fine. You have to replace the turbo every ...
Laughsome old irish cottage place of business
  02/12/19
Guys who buy cars like it is a fashion choice are feminine w...
Wonderful address legend
  02/11/19
Bro, you just bought an X6. That's perhaps the single bigges...
Odious area
  02/11/19
In what way is it a "fashion choice?" I don't thi...
Wonderful address legend
  02/11/19
It's a fashion choice because the X5 is the same damn car bu...
Odious area
  02/11/19
100 poast subthread incoming
Vermilion ungodly international law enforcement agency library
  02/11/19
I thought he would let this one go because the point I was m...
Odious area
  02/12/19
We already had an X5 equivalent, and when the Jeep dies the ...
Wonderful address legend
  02/11/19
In other words, a fashion choice.
Odious area
  02/11/19
Nope, a vehicle that fits my needs perfectly. Give me a rea...
Wonderful address legend
  02/11/19
How about you tell me what your X6 does better than an X5?
Odious area
  02/11/19
Takes up less space and more aerodynamic.
Wonderful address legend
  02/11/19
Lmao
Odious area
  02/11/19
Your turn.
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  02/11/19
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black electric furnace
  02/12/19
Please dont call any BMW without an M in its name a performa...
angry location mad cow disease
  02/11/19
Not many performance SUVs faster than mine. The X6M has the...
Wonderful address legend
  02/11/19
"BMW says [the 550i] will run from zero to 60 mph in ju...
180 useless orchestra pit
  02/12/19
Mine does 4.6, which is still insanely fast for an SUV.
Wonderful address legend
  02/12/19
<In what way is it a "fashion choice?"> T...
Adventurous cruise ship pisswyrm
  02/11/19
But it isn't fashionable.
Wonderful address legend
  02/11/19
Was it the 15 lb. weight savings, extra 0.9" in exterio...
Adventurous cruise ship pisswyrm
  02/11/19
I paid far less than I would have for a comparable X5 (and I...
Wonderful address legend
  02/11/19
I think those are European dimensions.
Adventurous cruise ship pisswyrm
  02/11/19
There are no US vs. Euro dimensions for the X5/X6. And they...
Wonderful address legend
  02/11/19
X5 F15 - 4,886 mm - https://www.auto-data.net/en/bmw-x5-f15-...
Adventurous cruise ship pisswyrm
  02/12/19
Well crap. At least I saved a bunch of cash. :) At any r...
Wonderful address legend
  02/12/19
Lol dude just man up and admit that you bought the BMW becau...
Bat Shit Crazy Bateful Son Of Senegal Factory Reset Button
  02/12/19
It is only fashionable insofar as every BMW is fashionable. ...
Wonderful address legend
  02/12/19
Now you're conflating fashionability with popularity. An idi...
Odious area
  02/12/19
I'm not saying I think it is ugly, but I don't think of cars...
Wonderful address legend
  02/12/19
Dude, enough with this ‘performance SUV’ nonsens...
Rose gaped point
  02/12/19
I don't want different cars for different purposes. My wife...
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  02/12/19
I promise I’m not just saying this because you’r...
Rose gaped point
  02/12/19
Well I'm Russian so I guess I'm their target market. And I'...
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  02/12/19
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  02/12/19
when you walk by a mirror, do you recognize your own reflect...
dull garrison friendly grandma
  02/12/19
volvo used to be the third brand before audi took that spot....
Razzle-dazzle mother dilemma
  02/11/19
as of, say, three years ago, Audi had lept to #1. E.g., the...
Territorial haunting stag film
  02/11/19
"as of, say, three years ago, Audi had lept to #1. E.g....
Wonderful address legend
  02/11/19
do sales figures not correspond to this? this is my clear su...
Territorial haunting stag film
  02/11/19
Nope. Not even close. 1. The Mercedes GLE: http://carsal...
Wonderful address legend
  02/11/19
This shatters my perception.
Territorial haunting stag film
  02/11/19
Audi deserves to be third, at least in Europe. It has some ...
Wonderful address legend
  02/11/19
Or bmw
Vermilion ungodly international law enforcement agency library
  02/11/19
BMW reliability is ahead of Audi and Volvo but behind Merced...
Wonderful address legend
  02/11/19
So fucking terrible
Vermilion ungodly international law enforcement agency library
  02/11/19
?
Wonderful address legend
  02/11/19
That's not good, bmw's, while fun, are absolutely terrible c...
Vermilion ungodly international law enforcement agency library
  02/11/19
I have 6.5 years of unlimited miles warranty left.
Wonderful address legend
  02/11/19
That this is an essential part of the package really does ma...
Vermilion ungodly international law enforcement agency library
  02/11/19
Idk if they break all the time, but I've read enough about B...
Wonderful address legend
  02/11/19
Surely you're not so blind as to not see that that is fuckin...
Vermilion ungodly international law enforcement agency library
  02/11/19
https://cars.usnews.com/cars-trucks/bmw/x6 Doesn't seem...
Wonderful address legend
  02/11/19
You really are this oblivious aren't you?
Vermilion ungodly international law enforcement agency library
  02/11/19
?
Wonderful address legend
  02/11/19
Lolololoool at thinking itll be a simple and easy FREE engin...
godawful plum tank
  02/12/19
You're right. There's a $50 deductible.
Wonderful address legend
  02/12/19
...and about a dozen trips to the shop while they try to nig...
godawful plum tank
  02/12/19
To be fair, BMW service has a good reputation.
Wonderful address legend
  02/12/19
My dad has an sq7 here
Appetizing Market Organic Girlfriend
  02/11/19
Do you mean an SQ5?
Wonderful address legend
  02/11/19
Volvo simply does not pass muster at the country club, sorry...
burgundy crotch
  02/11/19
this is nonsense. these days it's probably more prestigious...
black electric furnace
  02/12/19
our respective mileage obviously varies
burgundy crotch
  02/12/19
you'll find plenty of volvos and subarus all over the fancy ...
black electric furnace
  02/12/19
screams arriviste or nouveau, just sayin
burgundy crotch
  02/12/19
much less so than an ostentatious BMW or mercedes. if you...
black electric furnace
  02/12/19
let's say I wanna be a member of oakmont cc, no Volvos as fa...
burgundy crotch
  02/12/19
Anyone earnestly having this conversation should kill themse...
green aromatic hunting ground
  02/12/19
yeah, we're getting a bit JJC over here
black electric furnace
  02/12/19
You are what you drive, that's the take-home here.
burgundy crotch
  02/12/19
this is the most nonsensical thing ITT
black electric furnace
  02/12/19
(Prius owner and driving enthusiast)
burgundy crotch
  02/12/19
not a driving enthusiast. i have a BMW that i hate. look...
black electric furnace
  02/12/19
Isnt Volvo now a Chink company?
Motley Internet-worthy Box Office
  02/11/19
So is Pirelli, btw.
Wonderful address legend
  02/11/19
It's an improvement over being owned by Ford.
Very tactful school marketing idea
  02/11/19
As a former Jaguar owner, I concur.
Wonderful address legend
  02/11/19
At this point a Lada is an improvement over an American car....
angry location mad cow disease
  02/11/19
lolno
Wonderful address legend
  02/11/19
Absurd turbocharged 4 cylinder with less HP than a Mazda CX-...
angry location mad cow disease
  02/11/19
There’s literally one engine in the entire fleet to wh...
charcoal disturbing queen of the night
  02/11/19
The new designs are stunning and unique. They are pushing te...
Glittery nowag
  02/11/19
You are getting a shitter engine than what's in a Mazda for ...
angry location mad cow disease
  02/11/19
I didn't disagree with your point on engines. They're doing ...
Glittery nowag
  02/11/19
Everyone has lane keep assist, BSM, and the intelligent crui...
angry location mad cow disease
  02/11/19
They've got a variety of other shit like shock absorbing sea...
Glittery nowag
  02/11/19
They are going to have a lot more moments broken down on the...
abnormal wagecucks circlehead
  02/11/19
this. they are garbage inside and out. also, who pays 60K+ f...
Twinkling liquid oxygen
  02/11/19
You can delete "with new models"
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  02/11/19
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  02/12/19
The XC60 and XC90 might be the best looking vehicles in thei...
copper weed whacker pistol
  02/12/19
"might"
Wonderful address legend
  02/12/19
then again, they might not
copper weed whacker pistol
  02/12/19
50/50
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black electric furnace
  02/12/19
They are, but they’re insanely overpriced for it. The ...
vigorous salmon house
  02/12/19
Of all the criticisms of the XC90, this one is the dumbest. ...
Odious area
  02/12/19
that's not an engine. Everything but the T8 has like a 2L...
vigorous salmon house
  02/12/19
That or outback
hyperactive vivacious twinkling uncleanness pit
  02/12/19
The car or steakhouse?
Wonderful address legend
  02/12/19
BMW = trash
Claret Stirring Keepsake Machete Sound Barrier
  02/12/19
no u
Wonderful address legend
  02/12/19
If I see a man in a Volvo, I just assume he's gay
Claret Stirring Keepsake Machete Sound Barrier
  02/12/19
I mean, the logo is literally a "male" symbol
copper weed whacker pistol
  02/12/19
"having a moment" what a terrible and trite phrase...
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  02/12/19
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black electric furnace
  02/12/19
They are owned and manufactured by chinks now.
Dead flickering sanctuary voyeur
  02/12/19
tmf is truly weird itt
dull garrison friendly grandma
  02/12/19
?
Wonderful address legend
  02/12/19
Geely bought them in 2010 for dirt cheap and threw a bunch o...
Laughsome old irish cottage place of business
  02/12/19


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Date: February 11th, 2019 9:04 PM
Author: Territorial haunting stag film



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37766102)



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Date: February 11th, 2019 9:05 PM
Author: Lavender sex offender scourge upon the earth

it's a great car

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37766108)



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Date: February 11th, 2019 9:10 PM
Author: Wonderful address legend

Which car and why.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37766135)



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Date: February 11th, 2019 9:20 PM
Author: crimson brunch

Old wagons can go for 300K+ ez.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37766202)



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Date: February 12th, 2019 12:16 PM
Author: buff really tough guy immigrant

who the fuck is buying a used volvo for 300K, you mean 300K rubles?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37769586)



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Date: February 12th, 2019 12:50 PM
Author: green aromatic hunting ground

lol

your IQ?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37769881)



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Date: February 12th, 2019 12:55 PM
Author: black electric furnace



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37769916)



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Date: February 12th, 2019 1:37 PM
Author: buff really tough guy immigrant

very low, answer the q pls

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37770196)



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Date: February 11th, 2019 9:06 PM
Author: crimson brunch

some of the older models are really good value. Built like tanks, if you have the right mechanic, they are not hard to keep maintained. Just avoid turbos and when they started putting "fancy" electrical shit in the upper end models (basically above S60s)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37766117)



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Date: February 12th, 2019 5:04 PM
Author: Laughsome old irish cottage place of business

Volvo turbos are fine. You have to replace the turbo every 150-200k, but they are otherwise no less durable than the non-turbos and are actually drivable as the non-turbo are painfully slow. Any rear drive Volvo is a good car. 240, 242, 740, 940, 760, 960

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37771655)



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Date: February 11th, 2019 9:08 PM
Author: Wonderful address legend

Guys who buy cars like it is a fashion choice are feminine weirdos. Volvo makes sense if and only if they make better cars, which they haven't.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37766127)



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Date: February 11th, 2019 9:26 PM
Author: Odious area

Bro, you just bought an X6. That's perhaps the single biggest 'fashion choice for feminine weirdos' that exists in the entire auto industry

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37766263)



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Date: February 11th, 2019 9:30 PM
Author: Wonderful address legend

In what way is it a "fashion choice?" I don't think the car was ever fashionable. But it is a really solid performance SUV.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37766299)



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Date: February 11th, 2019 9:35 PM
Author: Odious area

It's a fashion choice because the X5 is the same damn car but FAR more practical.

There is no reason at all to get an X6 over an X5, unless you think the X6 looks better and don't care about practicality.

That's the very definition of a fashion choice.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37766349)



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Date: February 11th, 2019 9:38 PM
Author: Vermilion ungodly international law enforcement agency library

100 poast subthread incoming

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37766369)



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Date: February 12th, 2019 5:08 PM
Author: Odious area

I thought he would let this one go because the point I was making is pretty much beyond dispute.

Yet here we are.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37771672)



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Date: February 11th, 2019 9:40 PM
Author: Wonderful address legend

We already had an X5 equivalent, and when the Jeep dies the next car will be an X5. There wasn't really a need for a second car that was exactly the same. We wanted essentially a car in SUV form, which was the X6.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37766376)



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Date: February 11th, 2019 9:42 PM
Author: Odious area

In other words, a fashion choice.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37766392)



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Date: February 11th, 2019 9:43 PM
Author: Wonderful address legend

Nope, a vehicle that fits my needs perfectly. Give me a reason why the X5 would have been a better choice for me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37766402)



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Date: February 11th, 2019 10:27 PM
Author: Odious area

How about you tell me what your X6 does better than an X5?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37766835)



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Date: February 11th, 2019 10:29 PM
Author: Wonderful address legend

Takes up less space and more aerodynamic.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37766850)



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Date: February 11th, 2019 10:34 PM
Author: Odious area

Lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37766876)



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Date: February 11th, 2019 10:35 PM
Author: Wonderful address legend

Your turn.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37766883)



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Date: February 12th, 2019 12:05 PM
Author: black electric furnace



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37769512)



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Date: February 11th, 2019 9:50 PM
Author: angry location mad cow disease

Please dont call any BMW without an M in its name a performance anything.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37766453)



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Date: February 11th, 2019 9:56 PM
Author: Wonderful address legend

Not many performance SUVs faster than mine. The X6M has the same engine with more boost. It isn't even that much faster.

Also, the lack of the M in the badge is somewhat weird. In Europe they have the M50d which is slower than the 50i that I have. Go figure.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37766517)



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Date: February 12th, 2019 1:48 PM
Author: 180 useless orchestra pit

"BMW says [the 550i] will run from zero to 60 mph in just 3.9 seconds"

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a15094643/2018-bmw-m550i-xdrive-first-drive-review/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37770261)



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Date: February 12th, 2019 2:21 PM
Author: Wonderful address legend

Mine does 4.6, which is still insanely fast for an SUV.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37770503)



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Date: February 11th, 2019 9:57 PM
Author: Adventurous cruise ship pisswyrm

<In what way is it a "fashion choice?">

That's its whole fucking raison d'etre.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37766528)



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Date: February 11th, 2019 10:02 PM
Author: Wonderful address legend

But it isn't fashionable.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37766582)



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Date: February 11th, 2019 10:05 PM
Author: Adventurous cruise ship pisswyrm

Was it the 15 lb. weight savings, extra 0.9" in exterior body length, and higher price that convinced you?

Man up and admit you like the styling better.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37766613)



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Date: February 11th, 2019 10:15 PM
Author: Wonderful address legend

I paid far less than I would have for a comparable X5 (and I looked). Yes, I get that if I bought new that it would be the reverse. But the used car market can be a funny thing, and the X6 was actually a better value.

You mean less length, right? https://www.automobiledimension.com/bmw-car-dimensions.html

Yeah, it is a very slightly smaller SUV, which worked well for the purpose.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37766720)



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Date: February 11th, 2019 10:23 PM
Author: Adventurous cruise ship pisswyrm

I think those are European dimensions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37766805)



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Date: February 11th, 2019 10:28 PM
Author: Wonderful address legend

There are no US vs. Euro dimensions for the X5/X6. And they're all built in Spartanburg, NC. The difference is that the Euros get the M50d (and of the course right-sided steering for appropriate countries).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37766843)



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Date: February 12th, 2019 3:19 AM
Author: Adventurous cruise ship pisswyrm

X5 F15 - 4,886 mm - https://www.auto-data.net/en/bmw-x5-f15-50i-450hp-xdrive-steptronic-18608

X5 G05 - 4,922 mm - https://www.auto-data.net/en/bmw-x5-g05-50i-462hp-xdrive-steptronic-33265

X6 F16 - 4,909 mm - https://www.auto-data.net/en/bmw-x6-f16-50i-450hp-xdrive-steptronic-20685

4,909 mm (X6) - 4,886 mm (X5) = 0.906 in

Your site was using the new X5 generation (G05), so you weren't comparing apples to apples.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37767996)



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Date: February 12th, 2019 10:56 AM
Author: Wonderful address legend

Well crap. At least I saved a bunch of cash. :)

At any rate, it is less than an inch longer and otherwise is perfectly fine.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37769042)



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Date: February 12th, 2019 2:54 AM
Author: Bat Shit Crazy Bateful Son Of Senegal Factory Reset Button

Lol dude just man up and admit that you bought the BMW because it’s fashionable. All this bullshit about it being a solid performance SUV and it being a good value is just that; bullshit. If you wanted value, you’d own a CRV. You own a luxury SUV, bro, and you bought it because it’s fun to drive and fashionable.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37767975)



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Date: February 12th, 2019 10:55 AM
Author: Wonderful address legend

It is only fashionable insofar as every BMW is fashionable. But the flak I'm taking ITT is a perfect example of why it isn't at all fashionable.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37769032)



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Date: February 12th, 2019 11:57 AM
Author: Odious area

Now you're conflating fashionability with popularity. An idiosyncratic fashion choice is still a fashion choice.

Why is it so hard for you to admit that you bought your X6 partly because you like the way it looks?

If that isn't the case, you're an enormous rube for blowing 60 stacks on something you think is ugly and don't care to be seen in

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37769465)



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Date: February 12th, 2019 12:18 PM
Author: Wonderful address legend

I'm not saying I think it is ugly, but I don't think of cars as fashion accessories, so I don't think it is "gorgeous" either. I care about performance characteristics, comfort, etc. Kind of how I think the exact same thing about my laptops.

Sure, I guess if I thought it was outright ugly I wouldn't buy it, but whether it is attractive to look at isn't high on my list of priorities. Conflating tech with fashion generally annoys me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37769602)



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Date: February 12th, 2019 12:42 PM
Author: Rose gaped point

Dude, enough with this ‘performance SUV’ nonsense—that’s not a real thing and shouldn’t exist. Just get a truck like a normal man or if you like fast cars get a sports car

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37769834)



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Date: February 12th, 2019 2:19 PM
Author: Wonderful address legend

I don't want different cars for different purposes. My wife has a car and I have a car. Both cars need to perform in all kinds of circumstances. We want them to be good in every category. Getting an extra car just for when I feel like going fast is idiotic and no one is doing that. Aside from which, my performance SUV, which today is fine in the snow/ice, also performs as well as I could possibly want.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37770476)



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Date: February 12th, 2019 4:40 PM
Author: Rose gaped point

I promise I’m not just saying this because you’re Russian—those cars (x6, cayenne, Macan, etc) are flame built for Russians, armenians, Persians, and chinks. And gays and women too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37771518)



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Date: February 12th, 2019 6:52 PM
Author: Wonderful address legend

Well I'm Russian so I guess I'm their target market. And I'm ok with that because they're awesome.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37772195)



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Date: February 12th, 2019 3:29 AM
Author: house-broken fear-inspiring affirmative action famous landscape painting



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37768009)



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Date: February 12th, 2019 1:36 PM
Author: dull garrison friendly grandma

when you walk by a mirror, do you recognize your own reflection?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37770194)



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Date: February 11th, 2019 9:11 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle mother dilemma

volvo used to be the third brand before audi took that spot. were you not around in late 90s? it was mercs, bmw, and volvo. then audi replaced volvo.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37766146)



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Date: February 11th, 2019 9:14 PM
Author: Territorial haunting stag film

as of, say, three years ago, Audi had lept to #1. E.g., the Q7 was top dog over the comparable Merc or BMW offerings. Volvo didn't really seem to be on the map... now it has catapulted up to the point where I hear junior partners debating Q7 v. XC90 with Mercs or BMWs as kind of a kooky wild card choice. Just going by what I'm hearing ... very anecdotal.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37766161)



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Date: February 11th, 2019 9:16 PM
Author: Wonderful address legend

"as of, say, three years ago, Audi had lept to #1. E.g., the Q7 was top dog over the comparable Merc or BMW offerings"

Link? I can't think of a single measure by which this is true.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37766178)



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Date: February 11th, 2019 9:18 PM
Author: Territorial haunting stag film

do sales figures not correspond to this? this is my clear subjective impression based on my law firm and social circle of cashed up yuppie types

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37766184)



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Date: February 11th, 2019 9:28 PM
Author: Wonderful address legend

Nope. Not even close.

1. The Mercedes GLE: http://carsalesbase.com/us-car-sales-data/mercedes-benz/mercedes-benz-gle/

2018 46.010

2017 54.595

2016 51.643

2. The BMW X5: http://carsalesbase.com/us-car-sales-data/bmw/bmw-x5/

2018 45.013

2017 50.815

2016 47.641

3. The Audi Q7: http://carsalesbase.com/us-car-sales-data/audi/audi-q7/

2018 37.417

2017 38.346

2016 30.563

Third place (by far).

Their problem is that the SQ7 wasn't available in the US. Meanwhile, the GLE had 2 AMG models and the BMW had 2 twin-turbo V8 models.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37766278)



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Date: February 11th, 2019 9:31 PM
Author: Territorial haunting stag film

This shatters my perception.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37766305)



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Date: February 11th, 2019 9:15 PM
Author: Wonderful address legend

Audi deserves to be third, at least in Europe. It has some very cool cars that don't make it over here, like the SQ7.

Volvo - I don't see anything it offers that someone doesn't offer a better version of, even if the better version might cost a bit more money. Plus their reliability sucks (though, Audi isn't anything to write home about w/r/t/ reliability either).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37766167)



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Date: February 11th, 2019 9:16 PM
Author: Vermilion ungodly international law enforcement agency library

Or bmw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37766173)



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Date: February 11th, 2019 9:17 PM
Author: Wonderful address legend

BMW reliability is ahead of Audi and Volvo but behind Mercedes and Porsche.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37766180)



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Date: February 11th, 2019 9:18 PM
Author: Vermilion ungodly international law enforcement agency library

So fucking terrible

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37766187)



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Date: February 11th, 2019 9:23 PM
Author: Wonderful address legend

?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37766222)



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Date: February 11th, 2019 9:40 PM
Author: Vermilion ungodly international law enforcement agency library

That's not good, bmw's, while fun, are absolutely terrible cars that always have issues. At least Mercedes used to build tanks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37766380)



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Date: February 11th, 2019 9:44 PM
Author: Wonderful address legend

I have 6.5 years of unlimited miles warranty left.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37766410)



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Date: February 11th, 2019 9:46 PM
Author: Vermilion ungodly international law enforcement agency library

That this is an essential part of the package really does make my point for me. Poors care about warranties because they're poor and can't afford a major repair. Rich people care about them because their cars are awful and break all the time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37766428)



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Date: February 11th, 2019 9:53 PM
Author: Wonderful address legend

Idk if they break all the time, but I've read enough about BMW and twin-turbo V8s to realize that in 5 years and 80k miles that engine could need to be replaced. I'd rather it be free (and with free loaners) than $20k. I could afford the $20k but I'd rather not.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37766479)



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Date: February 11th, 2019 9:54 PM
Author: Vermilion ungodly international law enforcement agency library

Surely you're not so blind as to not see that that is fucking miserably poor reliability right?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37766493)



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Date: February 11th, 2019 9:59 PM
Author: Wonderful address legend

https://cars.usnews.com/cars-trucks/bmw/x6

Doesn't seem so bad.

Compare to say, this car: https://cars.usnews.com/cars-trucks/cadillac/xt5



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37766541)



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Date: February 11th, 2019 10:01 PM
Author: Vermilion ungodly international law enforcement agency library

You really are this oblivious aren't you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37766561)



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Date: February 11th, 2019 10:01 PM
Author: Wonderful address legend

?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37766569)



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Date: February 12th, 2019 12:10 PM
Author: godawful plum tank

Lolololoool at thinking itll be a simple and easy FREE engine replacement because of my warranty!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37769544)



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Date: February 12th, 2019 12:18 PM
Author: Wonderful address legend

You're right. There's a $50 deductible.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37769606)



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Date: February 12th, 2019 12:25 PM
Author: godawful plum tank

...and about a dozen trips to the shop while they try to nigger rig it fixed before they actually agree to replace.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37769666)



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Date: February 12th, 2019 2:20 PM
Author: Wonderful address legend

To be fair, BMW service has a good reputation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37770487)



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Date: February 11th, 2019 9:44 PM
Author: Appetizing Market Organic Girlfriend

My dad has an sq7 here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37766414)



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Date: February 11th, 2019 9:46 PM
Author: Wonderful address legend

Do you mean an SQ5?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37766427)



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Date: February 11th, 2019 9:20 PM
Author: burgundy crotch

Volvo simply does not pass muster at the country club, sorry.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37766203)



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Date: February 12th, 2019 12:08 PM
Author: black electric furnace

this is nonsense. these days it's probably more prestigious than bmw/merc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37769525)



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Date: February 12th, 2019 12:24 PM
Author: burgundy crotch

our respective mileage obviously varies

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37769657)



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Date: February 12th, 2019 12:49 PM
Author: black electric furnace

you'll find plenty of volvos and subarus all over the fancy east coast UMC and UC suburbs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37769876)



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Date: February 12th, 2019 12:52 PM
Author: burgundy crotch

screams arriviste or nouveau, just sayin

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37769894)



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Date: February 12th, 2019 12:56 PM
Author: black electric furnace

much less so than an ostentatious BMW or mercedes.

if your country club is full of fancy ass cars, it's probably a pretty shitty club

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37769935)



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Date: February 12th, 2019 1:03 PM
Author: burgundy crotch

let's say I wanna be a member of oakmont cc, no Volvos as far as the eye can see

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37769980)



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Date: February 12th, 2019 1:15 PM
Author: green aromatic hunting ground

Anyone earnestly having this conversation should kill themselves ASAP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37770063)



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Date: February 12th, 2019 1:18 PM
Author: black electric furnace

yeah, we're getting a bit JJC over here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37770084)



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Date: February 12th, 2019 1:23 PM
Author: burgundy crotch

You are what you drive, that's the take-home here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37770110)



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Date: February 12th, 2019 1:30 PM
Author: black electric furnace

this is the most nonsensical thing ITT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37770147)



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Date: February 12th, 2019 1:31 PM
Author: burgundy crotch

(Prius owner and driving enthusiast)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37770157)



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Date: February 12th, 2019 1:32 PM
Author: black electric furnace

not a driving enthusiast. i have a BMW that i hate.

looking to buy a toyota or a subaru soon.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37770161)



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Date: February 11th, 2019 9:32 PM
Author: Motley Internet-worthy Box Office

Isnt Volvo now a Chink company?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37766317)



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Date: February 11th, 2019 9:34 PM
Author: Wonderful address legend

So is Pirelli, btw.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37766336)



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Date: February 11th, 2019 9:42 PM
Author: Very tactful school marketing idea

It's an improvement over being owned by Ford.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37766389)



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Date: February 11th, 2019 9:44 PM
Author: Wonderful address legend

As a former Jaguar owner, I concur.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37766411)



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Date: February 11th, 2019 9:49 PM
Author: angry location mad cow disease

At this point a Lada is an improvement over an American car.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37766445)



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Date: February 11th, 2019 10:01 PM
Author: Wonderful address legend

lolno

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37766573)



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Date: February 11th, 2019 9:48 PM
Author: angry location mad cow disease

Absurd turbocharged 4 cylinder with less HP than a Mazda CX-5 selling for a $10k premium because of the badging. Call that a moment if you like but all the people with a brain just buy a CX-5 or a Rav-4.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37766443)



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Date: February 11th, 2019 10:03 PM
Author: charcoal disturbing queen of the night

There’s literally one engine in the entire fleet to which this poast even arguably applies. This is worse trolling than your Russia shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37766596)



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Date: February 11th, 2019 9:56 PM
Author: Glittery nowag

The new designs are stunning and unique. They are pushing tech and safety and are not going for big performance figures to compete with M and AMG, although their electrification focus might address this down the road.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37766515)



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Date: February 11th, 2019 9:58 PM
Author: angry location mad cow disease

You are getting a shitter engine than what's in a Mazda for $10k more. Enjoy. What safety tech? Everyone has the same safety shit now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37766532)



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Date: February 11th, 2019 10:00 PM
Author: Glittery nowag

I didn't disagree with your point on engines. They're doing a good job with self driving tech and definitely have a long standing focus on safety, moreso than other brands.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37766554)



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Date: February 11th, 2019 10:05 PM
Author: angry location mad cow disease

Everyone has lane keep assist, BSM, and the intelligent cruise control shit now. Maybe their implementation is marginally better but not $10k better.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37766607)



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Date: February 11th, 2019 10:13 PM
Author: Glittery nowag

They've got a variety of other shit like shock absorbing seat frames that other manufacturers don't have or don't execute well. They were the first company that did seatbelts back in the 50s. They launched a whole campaign about no one (passenger, pedestrian, etc dying in a Volvo crash by 2020). More than other brands they focus on safety as a primary brand trait.

Here's a bit on the XC90 tech:

https://youtu.be/fceK_l_-6kI



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37766696)



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Date: February 11th, 2019 10:00 PM
Author: abnormal wagecucks circlehead

They are going to have a lot more moments broken down on the side of the road. Those cars have terrible service histories, the engines are noisy, and they have random rattles in new cars. Plenty of posts on Volvo forums how this is a problem with new models.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37766559)



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Date: February 11th, 2019 10:03 PM
Author: Twinkling liquid oxygen

this. they are garbage inside and out. also, who pays 60K+ for some FWD biased platform?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37766587)



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Date: February 11th, 2019 10:03 PM
Author: Wonderful address legend

You can delete "with new models"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37766588)



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Date: February 12th, 2019 12:12 PM
Author: nudist juggernaut casino



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37769558)



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Date: February 12th, 2019 10:57 AM
Author: copper weed whacker pistol

The XC60 and XC90 might be the best looking vehicles in their respective classes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37769045)



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Date: February 12th, 2019 10:57 AM
Author: Wonderful address legend

"might"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37769051)



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Date: February 12th, 2019 11:00 AM
Author: copper weed whacker pistol

then again, they might not

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37769071)



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Date: February 12th, 2019 11:01 AM
Author: Wonderful address legend

50/50

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37769080)



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Date: February 12th, 2019 12:08 PM
Author: black electric furnace



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37769532)



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Date: February 12th, 2019 1:23 PM
Author: vigorous salmon house

They are, but they’re insanely overpriced for it. The engine in the xc90 is a joke on a 3-row suv.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37770112)



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Date: February 12th, 2019 1:37 PM
Author: Odious area

Of all the criticisms of the XC90, this one is the dumbest.

If has 3 different engines available, the most powerful of which makes 400hp and 472lb/ft

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37770197)



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Date: February 12th, 2019 4:12 PM
Author: vigorous salmon house

that's not an engine.

Everything but the T8 has like a 2L 4-cylinder engine in a 3-row SUV.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37771365)



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Date: February 12th, 2019 11:58 AM
Author: hyperactive vivacious twinkling uncleanness pit

That or outback

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37769474)



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Date: February 12th, 2019 8:09 PM
Author: Wonderful address legend

The car or steakhouse?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37772594)



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Date: February 12th, 2019 12:09 PM
Author: Claret Stirring Keepsake Machete Sound Barrier

BMW = trash

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37769536)



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Date: February 12th, 2019 2:20 PM
Author: Wonderful address legend

no u

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37770490)



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Date: February 12th, 2019 12:09 PM
Author: Claret Stirring Keepsake Machete Sound Barrier

If I see a man in a Volvo, I just assume he's gay

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37769538)



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Date: February 12th, 2019 12:14 PM
Author: copper weed whacker pistol

I mean, the logo is literally a "male" symbol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37769575)



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Date: February 12th, 2019 12:24 PM
Author: balding vengeful step-uncle's house

"having a moment" what a terrible and trite phrase. Utterly meaningless.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37769655)



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Date: February 12th, 2019 12:50 PM
Author: black electric furnace



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37769880)



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Date: February 12th, 2019 1:35 PM
Author: Dead flickering sanctuary voyeur

They are owned and manufactured by chinks now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37770188)



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Date: February 12th, 2019 1:38 PM
Author: dull garrison friendly grandma

tmf is truly weird itt

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37770206)



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Date: February 12th, 2019 2:20 PM
Author: Wonderful address legend

?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37770493)



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Date: February 12th, 2019 5:15 PM
Author: Laughsome old irish cottage place of business

Geely bought them in 2010 for dirt cheap and threw a bunch of money at a foundering brand (thanks Ford). Much like Tata and Land Rover, the company turned around. The new Volvo is all about small engines, safety, and design that is targeted to the Chinese and European markets. In particular, their 2L engine is twin charged (supercharged and turbo charged). And it’s 2L because in China, anything over 2L is heavily taxed.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=e86z6XZVGrg

This is tech not seen since the Lancia Delta Stradale. I would not buy one, but the interiors are nice and people seem to like the XC90 (the wait list was quite long, not sure if it still is).



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4199814&forum_id=2#37771718)