NYT: Giant lib civil war brewing between Berniemos and other Democrats
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Date: April 16th, 2019 3:19 PM Author: dashing hall
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/16/us/politics/bernie-sanders-democratic-party.html
How, some Democrats are beginning to ask, do they thwart a 70-something candidate from outside the party structure who is immune to intimidation or incentive and wields support from an unwavering base, without simply reinforcing his “the establishment is out to get me’’ message — the same grievance Mr. Trump used to great effect?
But stopping Mr. Sanders, or at least preventing a contentious convention, could prove difficult for Democrats.
He has enormous financial advantages — already substantially outraising his Democratic rivals — that can sustain a major campaign through the primaries. And he is well-positioned to benefit from a historically large field of candidates that would splinter the vote: If he wins a substantial number of primaries and caucuses and comes in second in others, thanks to his deeply loyal base of voters across many states, he would pick up formidable numbers of delegates for the nomination.
That prospect is not only spooking establishment-aligned Democrats, but it is also creating tensions about what, if anything, should be done to halt Mr. Sanders.
Some in the party still harbor anger over the 2016 race, when he ran against Hillary Clinton, and his ongoing resistance to becoming a Democrat. But his critics are chiefly motivated by a fear that nominating an avowed socialist would all but ensure Mr. Trump a second term.
“There’s a growing realization that Sanders could end up winning this thing, or certainly that he stays in so long that he damages the actual winner,” said David Brock, the liberal organizer, who said he has had discussions with other operatives about an anti-Sanders campaign and believes it should commence “sooner rather than later.”
But to some veterans of the still-raw 2016 primary, a heavy-handed intervention may only embolden him and his fervent supporters.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243015&forum_id=2#38097419) |
Date: April 16th, 2019 4:12 PM Author: floppy cuckoldry
The Democrats are going to have the same problem the GOP did with Trump. Trump was in many ways a joke candidate. He probably couldn't have won the nomination if it was a 1 vs 1 contest versus any of the establishment. But in a crowded field, Trump had enthusastic support from like 20-30% of Republicans - which makes it hard when there are 15 other candidates all polling at 2% or so.
Same thing is going to happen with Bernie. Bernie is going to get a solid 30% of the votes. That's fine if its Bernie vs Hillary - but the DNC is in real trouble if Kamala and Booker and Beto and Julian Castro are all getting 5% of the votes in the early contests and Bernie is building out a big lead by putting up 30s.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243015&forum_id=2#38097662) |
Date: April 16th, 2019 4:14 PM Author: insanely creepy concupiscible crotch casino
Mr. Brock, who supported Mrs. Clinton’s past presidential bids, said “the Bernie question comes up in every fund-raising meeting I do.”
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Freudian 1488 here.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243015&forum_id=2#38097666) |
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