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Insulin: $300 a vial here; $25 in Canada. Contards explain
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Date: July 19th, 2019 10:16 PM Author: Razzle box office pistol Because, uh, freedom, right? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38559226) |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 11:52 PM Author: Brilliant Institution Idiot Trump proposed a way to fix this. Read about the international pricing index model, a proposed rule from HHS. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38559591) |
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Date: July 20th, 2019 5:36 AM Author: flesh adventurous set lol yes we can trust trump and the GOP to fuk over drug companies profits (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38560079) |
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Date: July 20th, 2019 7:22 AM Author: arousing church building regret Just like we can trust the Dems to fix healthcare since they did it before! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38560192) |
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Date: January 30th, 2020 6:06 PM Author: Outnumbered sepia pit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#39515145) |
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Date: February 20th, 2020 12:08 PM Author: mahogany hyperventilating field international law enforcement agency No. Just the opposite. Because govt regulations restrict co.petition by creating high barriers to entry. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#39624187) |
Date: July 19th, 2019 10:17 PM Author: maniacal fantasy-prone crackhouse Cory Booker will get right on this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38559235) |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 10:18 PM Author: Razzle box office pistol How about Trump? He kinda runs shit these days.
Maybe HHS Secretary Alex Azar, immediate past CEO of insulin manufacturer Elli Lilli will solve this. |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 10:19 PM Author: Saffron big-titted sound barrier Average prescription drug prices went down for the first time ever recently. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38559242) |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 10:23 PM Author: heady partner scourge upon the earth (known trump shill) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38559262) |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 10:25 PM Author: Razzle box office pistol But if I go to Canada I get a 1200% discount, and if i am Canadian, the shit is free. But, drr, socialism, right? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38559274) |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 11:09 PM Author: Saffron big-titted sound barrier If you're Canadian you have to pay higher taxes and get ripped off on every consumer good you buy. So it isn't free. |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 11:20 PM Author: Razzle box office pistol But they don't have people dying. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38559495) |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 11:26 PM Author: Saffron big-titted sound barrier TIL Canadians are immortal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38559504) |
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Date: July 21st, 2019 2:12 PM Author: pearly exciting friendly grandma marketing idea a 1200% discount, Rudolph? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38565652) |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 10:21 PM Author: Dashing wine dilemma TBF it’s like $7 in Russia. Just do move to Russia. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38559250) |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 10:21 PM Author: Razzle box office pistol I'm going to really need a free market explanation here. Shouldn't it make prices lower? Why has evil Canadian socialism made the price 1200 percent cheaper?
Should we cut their taxes? Is it a Mexican immigrant problem? |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 10:25 PM Author: Dashing wine dilemma TBF the problem with Yankee health care is its hybrid nature. Both full free market health care in Eastern Europe where the majority of the population lacks insurance and pays cash and purely socialist healthcare in Western Europe yield superior results to ARE mixed system which creates nothing but avenues for corruption .
That said, congress knows all this and doesn’t care because 90% of medical patents go to US firms and we are subsidizing US dominance in the field. That’s the entire point. The commie cucks get lower prices but the US dominates the entire industry. It’s an unspoken trade-off. |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 10:38 PM Author: arousing church building regret I don't believe for a second it is because of the US "free market" in healthcare. No industry is more subsidized or regulated that healthcare, not even finance.
Insulin specifically is probably Canada's greatest medical achievement so they probably have laws keeping it cheap. |
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Date: July 20th, 2019 5:48 AM Author: disturbing autistic location (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38560098) |
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Date: July 20th, 2019 5:37 PM Author: shimmering effete gaming laptop base bc the US is a fucking kleptocracy that fuses exhaustingly broad regulation with free market cheerleading in a way that encourages rent seeking and funnels both tax dollars and private spending towards pre-determined winners (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38562385) |
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Date: January 30th, 2020 6:19 PM Author: arousing church building regret Agreed for a lot of industries (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#39515215) |
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Date: July 20th, 2019 5:49 AM Author: disturbing autistic location US is not free market at all.....even doctor salaries are artificcially inflated thanks to AMA monopolies (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38560100) |
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Date: July 20th, 2019 9:37 AM Author: aquamarine costumed laser beams (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38560333) |
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Date: July 20th, 2019 11:36 AM Author: mahogany hyperventilating field international law enforcement agency We dont have a free market (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38560667) |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 10:22 PM Author: bateful hairless fat ankles kitchen Boomers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38559257) |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 10:24 PM Author: cheese-eating bawdyhouse wrinkle Middle class consumers in the US have the great honor of subsidizing middle class consumers in other developed countries. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38559269) |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 10:26 PM Author: 180 very tactful headpube hospital (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38559278) |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 10:28 PM Author: Razzle box office pistol Why haven't our pristine free markets solved this?
Prohibition on price negotiation for Medicare/Medicaid? PBMs? Patent ever-greening that prevents generics?
Why exactly is Canadian heath care bad? They live longer and pay less. |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 10:29 PM Author: 180 very tactful headpube hospital I think it's fine but it would require an extensive overhaul, and destroy boomer college admins. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38559292) |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 10:30 PM Author: Razzle box office pistol That's good or bad? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38559299) |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 10:50 PM Author: 180 very tactful headpube hospital It's good but "medicAre for all" is not a solution (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38559383) |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 10:51 PM Author: Razzle box office pistol Fine just do price caps. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38559389) |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 10:31 PM Author: Salmon Affirmative Action Personal Credit Line cause it's not a pristine free market (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38559301) |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 10:34 PM Author: Razzle box office pistol HHS Secretary Alex Azar, former Elli Lilly CEO, is fixing this how exactly? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38559319) |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 10:38 PM Author: arousing church building regret we don't have pristine free markets retard. If anything, our health care system is closer to socialism than free markets. The last time I was at the hospital there was a yuge sign declaring you couldn't be refused treatment even if you couldn't pay. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38559338) |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 10:44 PM Author: Razzle box office pistol Hmm. So emergency care + bankruptcy is the solution? Trump should run on that.
I guess that was Paul Ryan's plan. |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 10:47 PM Author: arousing church building regret Good flame here bud (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38559369) |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 10:52 PM Author: comical theater stop being a fag. the insurance market in the us isnt free. canada has a tenth of the population we do and a relatively strict merit-based immigration system, not apples to apples (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38559392) |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 10:53 PM Author: Razzle box office pistol Ok. Do price caps. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38559396) |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 10:25 PM Author: 180 very tactful headpube hospital Pay doctors like Canada does and make licensing like they do, I'd love it, THE AMA/Big Rx is a scam
Dems just want OH JUST MAKE IT FREE! |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 10:30 PM Author: Razzle box office pistol So let's trust Secretary of HHS/Trump nominee/former Elli Lilli CEO to make this right? Because darkies, right? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38559296) |
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Date: July 20th, 2019 5:47 AM Author: Amethyst wonderful ticket booth doctors in canada get paid pretty damn well. lol at this MFE (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38560095) |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 10:31 PM Author: Sooty stimulating hominid piazza Yes, everyone pays the list price for drugs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38559304) |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 10:33 PM Author: Razzle box office pistol So if you work in the deep-state you get to live, but if you want to start your own business, you get to die?
As an aside, why is there no generic insulin? |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 10:35 PM Author: Razzle box office pistol Why did these kids die?
https://twitter.com/MsAllisonBailey/status/1151587832718331904 |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 10:42 PM Author: arousing church building regret Poor genetics (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38559353) |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 10:45 PM Author: Razzle box office pistol So we don't like white people from Kentucky like the girl on the left? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38559362) |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 10:47 PM Author: arousing church building regret We love everyone. It’s too bad their fathers didn’t. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38559366) |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 10:47 PM Author: peach weed whacker why even discuss these matters? Even if bernie sanders were in the white house and even if 100% of congress were Dems, I GUARANTEE that we will not get single payer...oh, they may pass a program that they CALL single payer...but it will of course just be another GC scam...america is an extortion factory and not a democracy...when are you gonna fucking learn that? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38559368) |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 10:49 PM Author: peach weed whacker look at all the oh so earnest discussion of how we could implement a universal healthcare plan...lol...as if the citizens actually had some power to change america...dudes, we are not in charge, and we never will be... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38559376) |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 10:50 PM Author: 180 very tactful headpube hospital Cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38559385) |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 10:51 PM Author: Razzle box office pistol Why not just make it simple? No one can walk out of a pharmacy in the US paying more than $50 a vial, regardless of coverage. There, problem solved.
If bigpharma is worried about R&D, they can up the viagra and balding medicine price. BTW the NIH funds most R&D. |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 10:52 PM Author: peach weed whacker lol...there are thousands of plans....sure, there are plenty of solutions...and if pigs had wings they could fly to hawaii for a vacation...but they don't have wings...and we don't have a democracy... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38559395) |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 10:54 PM Author: Razzle box office pistol We kinda do if both crazy bases get behind the same idea instead of throwing shit at eat other all the time.
This is an immediately solvable problem.
Treat it like a pubic utility. |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 10:49 PM Author: black bat-shit-crazy nibblets High taxes? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38559377) |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 10:52 PM Author: Razzle box office pistol So do Canada's taxes? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38559391) |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 10:55 PM Author: black bat-shit-crazy nibblets If we want their system, yeah, just do higher taxes I guess (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38559404) |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 10:58 PM Author: Razzle box office pistol Why would we not want their system? 25<300 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38559413) |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 11:33 PM Author: arousing church building regret Do you really want 90% white people? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38559543) |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 10:58 PM Author: Fighting wagecucks stage Hard copy seem like a fine liberal kang....but he got his shit pushed itt.
Kamala sad. |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 11:00 PM Author: Razzle box office pistol Literally no one had a serious answer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38559421) |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 10:58 PM Author: Azure mediation Obeezy,
Stfu you short little faggot |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 11:01 PM Author: Razzle box office pistol I'm "loans originated."
Why should white Kentuckians die when they could live in British Columbia or Ontario? Aren't you guys the pro-life party? |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 11:13 PM Author: 180 very tactful headpube hospital They can't live in British Columbia or Ontario because Canada enforces their borders to their welfare state. It's hard to become a citizen (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38559468) |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 11:20 PM Author: Razzle box office pistol It's shocking that I have to explain this.
Real American in Kentucky should have better heath care than Canadians. We can afford it. We just choose to have them die. |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 11:31 PM Author: 180 very tactful headpube hospital I think you're ignoring the elephant in the room that is USA is a scam and the US has been run by special interests and intelligence agencies since the 50s. This is not a party thing this is corporate USA fucking you and running the country
And we have like 30mm illegals we subsidize, among others...but the above is the point. |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 11:40 PM Author: arousing church building regret Why didn’t you choose to cut them a check? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38559564) |
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Date: July 19th, 2019 11:49 PM Author: Maize giraffe We need mandatory public disclosure of drug/medical pricing. Ban all forms of price discrimination. Subsidies=illegal, volume discount=illegal, negotiating drug prices per insurer/country=illegal, PBMs=illegal. All prices/rates are public. Would fix 95% of medical industry.
I think this should also apply to all products/services in the US. Fuck coupons, senior discounts, rewards points, all that shit. But admittedly not as big of a deal when demand is more elastic. |
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Date: July 20th, 2019 5:06 AM Author: Tripping nudist generalized bond Transparency with regards to pricing won't do much so long as healthcare remains a market in which patients are largely isolated from their own bills.
Demand for healthcare is extraordinarily inelastic, especially when one's survival depends on those services. Otherwise healthy patients might make use of pricing info in situations where the overall bill will be less than their insurance deductible and annual out of pocket max or patients who self-pay, but those situations represent a tiny fraction of the healthcare market. |
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Date: July 20th, 2019 9:30 AM Author: Maize giraffe Transparency is just the first step. Banning price discrimination is what solves it. Every customer pays the same (whether all cash, insurance, UK health services, Africa, etc.) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38560316) |
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Date: July 20th, 2019 3:59 AM Author: Concupiscible Brindle Stage Hissy Fit contards blown out ITT. America is a shell of a country that has been bought out by vulture capitalists that are largely satan worshipping pedophiles (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38560006) |
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Date: July 20th, 2019 5:54 AM Author: Shivering heaven brethren Risten! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38560106) |
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Date: July 20th, 2019 5:54 AM Author: Provocative alcoholic corner trust fund because thanks to the kike chokehold on American culture, people here are a lot more fat and sick than elsewhere (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38560105) |
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Date: July 20th, 2019 7:16 AM Author: underhanded trump supporter love of her life Xo is the ONLY bort that for years has been talking about the final solution to this and other problems (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38560188) |
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Date: July 20th, 2019 9:56 AM Author: honey-headed insanely creepy skinny woman USA doesn't need more insulin resistant blobs rascaling around (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38560378) |
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Date: July 20th, 2019 10:58 AM Author: Razzle box office pistol Google Type 1 diabetes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38560542) |
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Date: July 20th, 2019 11:40 AM Author: mahogany hyperventilating field international law enforcement agency Read part II of this article.
https://slatestarcodex.com/2019/04/30/buspirone-shortage-in-healthcaristan-ssr/ |
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Date: July 20th, 2019 5:43 PM Author: shimmering effete gaming laptop base OH NO WHAT WILL CANADA”STAN” DO WITHOUT FLOWING SUPPLY OF A 35 YEAR-OLD MEDICATION FOR SHORT-TERM TREATMENT OF MILD ANXIETY DISORDER (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38562406) |
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Date: July 20th, 2019 7:46 PM Author: peach weed whacker (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38562893) |
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Date: July 21st, 2019 2:03 PM Author: mahogany hyperventilating field international law enforcement agency Did you read part II? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38565601) |
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Date: January 30th, 2020 6:13 PM Author: Excitant goal in life Update? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#39515180) |
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Date: July 20th, 2019 6:46 PM Author: trip fanboi new version "Trump's America" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38562648) |
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Date: July 21st, 2019 2:03 PM Author: Submissive Organic Girlfriend Thanks Obama (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38565602) |
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Date: July 21st, 2019 2:10 PM Author: Iridescent Genital Piercing OP trying so hard ITT to argue against a position that never materialized (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38565639) |
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Date: July 21st, 2019 4:09 PM Author: Electric fishy den This was true under Obama as well. He had 8 years to fix this. Trump has at least acknowledged the problem and is trying. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38566214) |
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Date: July 21st, 2019 4:13 PM Author: glittery opaque center /thread (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38566232) |
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Date: July 21st, 2019 4:15 PM Author: peach weed whacker (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#38566246) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2019 8:54 PM Author: Razzle box office pistol Hey free market dipshits, here's a bipartisan bill that sets prices at 2006 levels.
https://www.shaheen.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/Insulin%20Price%20Reduction%20Act%20Summary.pdf
Better go jerk off to some Austrian economists. |
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Date: January 30th, 2020 6:26 PM Author: Odious Point Pervert ITT: fatties (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#39515230) |
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Date: February 16th, 2020 11:12 AM Author: citrine national Is this $300 after insurance? Seems to be after, as it effecting friends wife and they are doing decent financially (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#39602414) |
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Date: February 20th, 2020 11:48 AM Author: Razzle box office pistol List price is ~$300 a vial. Most adults use 3-6 vials a month, so with a 20 percent co-pay (because there is no generic) $300 per order/script refill is well within the range of possibility with insurance. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#39624088) |
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Date: June 20th, 2020 4:49 PM Author: flesh adventurous set (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4306432&forum_id=2#40460449) |