Desegregation Plan: Close All Gifted Programs in New York
A group appointed by Mayor Bill de Blasio proposed seismic changes to the nation’s largest school system.
For years, New York City has essentially maintained two parallel public school systems.
A group of selective schools and programs geared to students labeled gifted and talented is filled mostly with white and Asian children. The rest of the system is open to all students and is predominantly black and Hispanic.
Now, a high-level panel appointed by Mayor Bill de Blasio is recommending that the city do away with most of these programs in an effort to desegregate the system, which has 1.1 million students and is by far the largest in the country.
Mr. de Blasio, who has staked his mayoralty on reducing inequality, has the power to adopt some or all of the proposals without input from the State Legislature or City Council. If he does, the decision would fundamentally reshape the segregated school system and reverberate in school districts across the country.
The mayor will now be thrust into the center of a sensitive debate about race and class at home, even as he is straining to stand out in a crowded field of Democratic contenders for president.
He risks alienating tens of thousands of mostly white and Asian families who rely on the shadow system of gifted programs and selective schools; if a substantial number of those families leave the system, it would be next to impossible to achieve integration.
The proposals, contained in a report to be released on Tuesday, may also face opposition from some middle-class black and Hispanic families that have called for more gifted programs in mostly minority neighborhoods as a way to offer students of color more access to high-quality schools.
The plan includes all elementary school gifted programs, screened middle schools and some high schools — with the exception of Stuyvesant High School and the city’s seven other elite high schools, whose admission is partially controlled by Albany.
ImageNEST+m is one of New York City’s most popular gifted and talented programs. Students need to score 97 percent or above on a standardized exam to be eligible.
NEST+m is one of New York City’s most popular gifted and talented programs. Students need to score 97 percent or above on a standardized exam to be eligible. CreditJeenah Moon for The New York Times
Mr. de Blasio has been criticized by some on the political left for not demonstrating a willingness to implement major desegregation policies.
But Richard A. Carranza, the schools chancellor, made desegregation his signature issue when he took the job in 2018, denouncing racial inequality and promising sweeping action. He has specifically questioned whether too many students were being labeled “gifted.”
Mr. Carranza did not develop any significant integration policies of his own during his first year on the job, and his input on the proposals will be a definitive test of his willingness to push for disruptive and unpopular change in order to desegregate schools.
Still, the mayor has final say over whether to approve the recommendations.
The panel’s report, obtained by The New York Times, amounts to a repudiation of former Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg’s education agenda, which reoriented the system toward school choice for families, including more gifted and screened schools, to combat decades of low performance.
Some of those policies deepened inequality even as student achievement rose. Mr. de Blasio has been sharply critical of his predecessor’s philosophy on education, but must now decide whether to dismantle some of the structures that Mr. Bloomberg helped to build.
The panel recommended that the city replace gifted and screened schools with new magnet schools — which have been used in other cities to attract a diverse group of students interested in a particular subject matter — along with enrichment programs that are open to students with varying academic abilities.
If the mayor adopts the recommendations, elementary and middle schools would no longer be able to admit students based solely or largely on standardized exams or other academic prerequisites, and high schools would have diversity requirements.
Alternative means of admission should be decided by the Department of Education and individual districts, the panel found.
Though it may be months before the mayor issues a decision, the release of the recommendations is likely to set off an intracity battle over the costs of keeping white and middle-class families in a public school system that is nearly 70 percent black and Hispanic and mostly low-income.
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Mayor Bill de Blasio has expressed skepticism about the viability of citywide integration, and has not signaled a willingness to take on sweeping desegregation policies.
Mayor Bill de Blasio has expressed skepticism about the viability of citywide integration, and has not signaled a willingness to take on sweeping desegregation policies.CreditJames Estrin/The New York Times
Even a partial rollback of selective academic programs would have a profound effect on many of the city’s 1,800 schools.
Last year, New York’s elementary school gifted classes enrolled about 16,000 students and were nearly 75 percent white and Asian. Black and Hispanic enrollment in the programs has plummeted over the last decade, after Mr. Bloomberg’s attempt to diversify them by creating a test-based threshold for admission backfired.
About a quarter of the city’s middle and high schools require that students be screened — through exams, attendance rates, and grades — for admission. New York screens more students for its schools than any other city in the country, and those screened schools tend to have a disproportionately white and Asian enrollment.
Gifted programs and screened schools “have become proxies for separating students who can and should have opportunities to learn together,” the panel, made up of several dozen education experts, wrote in the report.
Still, the so-called School Diversity Advisory Group acknowledged that the city would have to take pains to prevent middle-class families from fleeing the system.
If those students decamp to private schools or to the suburbs, “it will become even more difficult to create high-quality integrated schools,” in New York, the report said. The panel wrote that “high-achievement students deserve to be challenged,” but in different ways.
The mayor and chancellor were both noncommittal in statements.
“I thank the School Diversity Advisory Group for all their hard work to promote equity and excellence across our system, and I look forward to reviewing their recommendations,” Mr. de Blasio said. Mr. Carranza vowed to “take action to ensure all students have access to a rich and rigorous education.”
The panel presented the mayor and chancellor with a rough blueprint for overhauling its selective academic offerings, but left many details up to the city.
The city should get rid of the standardized admissions exam for elementary school gifted programs, which is offered to prospective Kindergarten students and has sparked a cottage industry of expensive test preparation for toddlers, the panel said.
Mr. de Blasio should also place a moratorium on new gifted programs, stop most grouping by academic ability and phase out existing gifted classes by not admitting new students, the panel said. If the recommendations are accepted, New York would shed its current gifted offerings within about five years.
In order to integrate high schools, the panel recommended that the city not open any new screened high schools, eliminate geographic zones as a criteria for admission and should not consider lateness or attendance in evaluating prospective students.
The city should also redesign its competitive high school admissions process to ensure that high schools reflect the racial and economic make up of their boroughs, the panel found.
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Richard Carranza has vowed to tackle segregation in city schools, but has not yet announced significant new integration policies.
Richard Carranza has vowed to tackle segregation in city schools, but has not yet announced significant new integration policies.CreditSpencer Platt/Getty Images
The widely varying quality of the city’s neighborhood elementary schools, which have become increasingly segregated since the 1970s, is the public school system’s most intractable problem.
Though Mr. de Blasio has vowed to create a school system where the idea of “good schools” and “bad schools” becomes obsolete, dozens of schools are extremely low-performing, and many more are struggling.
As the city has tried for decades to improve its underperforming schools, it has long relied on accelerated academic offerings and screened schools, including the specialized high schools, to entice white families to stay in public schools.
But at the same time, white, Asian and middle-class families have sometimes exacerbated segregation by avoiding neighborhood schools, and instead choosing gifted programs or other selective schools. In gentrifying neighborhoods, some white parents have rallied for more gifted classes, which has in some cases led to segregated classrooms within diverse schools.
The application system for gifted classes, which can begin when a child is 4, tends to favor savvy parents who have the flexibility to visit schools and, in some cases, the money to spend on test preparation.
Gifted education has long been seen as a third rail issue in New York. Mr. Carranza’s pronouncements about gifted education have already made some parents skittish, and a single Brooklyn school’s recent decision to scrap its gifted program made headlines.
If the last few years are any indication, the push to eliminate the screening process is also sure to encounter fierce opposition.
Only one of city’s 32 school districts — Brooklyn’s District 15, including Park Slope — has scrapped academic screens for middle school enrollment, opting instead for a lottery system. The Upper West Side’s District 3 has reserved seats at top middle schools for low-performing students.
But it took years of often bitter debate for those politically progressive and racially diverse neighborhoods, to finally adopt those plans.
Outside of those corners of the city, black and Hispanic children are more likely to be enrolled in schools with low test scores and scarce resources.
After only seven black students got into the city’s most elite public high school, Stuyvesant, some black and Hispanic alumni and elected officials called on Mr. de Blasio to expand gifted classes into poor and minority neighborhoods.
Research has found that some schools in poor and minority neighborhoods that use academic screening can provide crucial opportunities for underserved children, and the panel stressed that it wanted to maintain admissions policies that help identify and enroll vulnerable students in high-quality schools. Programs for students learning English and students with special needs should be largely maintained, the panel found.
Still, the report said, a system that relies heavily on sorting students according to academic ability “is not equitable, even if it is effective for some.”
Date: August 26th, 2019 6:49 PM Author: Learning disabled federal party of the first part
18...The leftist's feelings of inferiority run so deep that he cannot tolerate any classification of some things as successful or superior and other things as failed or inferior. This also underlies the rejection by many leftists of the concept of mental illness and of the utility of IQ tests. Leftists are antagonistic to genetic explanations of human abilities or behavior because such explanations tend to make some persons appear superior or inferior to others. Leftists prefer to give society the credit or blame for an individual's ability or lack of it. Thus if a person is "inferior" it is not his fault, but society's, because he has not been brought up properly.
Date: August 26th, 2019 6:03 PM Author: jet-lagged forum selfie
right.
immigrant jews took advantage of free high quality public education in NYC in the mid-20th c (including CUNY).
a few generations later, after they've climbed the SES ladder, they turn around and do this kind of thing.
this is about elites pulling up all ladders, turning the plebes into an undifferentiated dumbed-down mulatto soy-blob. none of the children of de blasio's friends will suffer as a consequence of this.
Date: August 26th, 2019 6:05 PM Author: ruby outnumbered library
They do or will go to religious schools. This is a shot at Asians and poor whites (mostly recent immigrants). Let it burn. Libs eating their own is always fun to watch.
Date: August 26th, 2019 6:16 PM Author: Adult Friendship Finder
"Last year, New York’s elementary school gifted classes enrolled about 16,000 students and were nearly 75 percent white and Asian. Black and Hispanic enrollment in the programs has plummeted over the last decade, after Mr. Bloomberg’s attempt to diversify them by creating a test-based threshold for admission backfired."
lol wait, what? can someone from NYC explain this please?
you're telling me that they created a test-based threshold for gifted schools in order to....diversify them? did that seriously actually happen?
Date: August 26th, 2019 7:45 PM Author: insecure cerise famous landscape painting garrison
I was in "gifted" in the early 90's and even back then they had lower IQ requirements for minorities. I'm sure the "threshold" change they're talking about is just even more seriously lowering the minority threshold
Date: August 27th, 2019 12:56 PM Author: Vibrant school
Not flame this stresses me the fuck out. I'm looking to have kids in the next 5 years or so, no fucking idea where I'll be or whether I'll have to pony up for private school to insulate my kids from lib insanity/thunderdomes
I do think there'd be a benefit to doing away from the current standardized testing program and going to something that was less practiceable.
This would obviously create riots on the street, but we should really question the value of having 5 year olds studying for these dumb standardized tests into a lifetime of standardized tests. Most of these kids are not actually all that bright and I believe most studies show they usualy don't amount to much.
Date: August 26th, 2019 7:34 PM Author: floppy harsh meetinghouse
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Date: August 26th, 2019 7:45 PM Author: Bat shit crazy stimulating rehab hairy legs
THE YEAR WAS 2081, and everybody was finally equal. They weren't only equal before God and the law. They were equal every which way. Nobody was smarter than anybody else. Nobody was better looking than anybody else. Nobody was stronger or quicker than anybody else. All this equality was due to the 211th, 212th, and 213th Amendments to the Constitution, and to the unceasing vigilance of agents of the United States Handicapper General.
Date: August 27th, 2019 7:21 AM Author: richard clock (ggtp)
99% of kids with parents who were tuned in pulled them out of the school and went private or found a way into another public once they took out the gifted programs
they replaced these kids, who were generally pretty good, with urban youths who had been expelled from other schools across the city. these kids were angry, violent and caused chaos.
school ended up so shitty and violent that they had to shut it down for a few years
Date: August 26th, 2019 11:41 PM Author: Underhanded Coffee Pot
It's really interesting to see NYC -- at one point the greatest, most powerful, and most influential city ever built -- ignore its own decline and, in fact, throw fuel on the fire. NYC is losing jobs and people (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-12-14/chicago-exodus-sees-city-shrink-by-156-daily-demographic-trends) because they've been taxed into oblivion and the costs of living are insane. Every second tier city now has its own tech or financial district and works feverishly to steal businesses away through lucrative deals and tax breaks.
And faced with this challenge, what does NYC do? Does it take steps to stay important and attractive? No, rests on century old laurels, sticks its fingers in its ears, and hums while doubling down on policies guaranteed to drive people out.