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5 days to draft 11 page 3000 word brief?

40 hours? Seems very excessive.
adventurous stage
  09/17/19
Pay your bills
180 hall puppy
  09/17/19
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violent laser beams brunch
  09/17/19
Reasonable and necessary
violent laser beams brunch
  09/17/19
Seems low.
Mint Gaming Laptop Love Of Her Life
  09/17/19
Hire an XO solo next time. Have them pay 20% kickback on bil...
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contagious frozen bawdyhouse potus
  09/17/19
That would typically be on the high side, but context matter...
Hairless space fortuitous meteor
  09/17/19
cqs
heady emerald hominid
  09/17/19
lawyers are expensive. could have drafted it yourself.
Diverse twisted cuckoldry area
  09/17/19
estimate the # of times you have heard this complaint
heady emerald hominid
  09/17/19
really not that many. i bill pretty conservatively and my cl...
Diverse twisted cuckoldry area
  09/17/19
you guys allow clients to make payments?
Sienna site
  09/18/19
Generally no
Diverse twisted cuckoldry area
  09/18/19
very excessive. i've drafted briefs more than five times tha...
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  09/17/19
Oh! The BriefMaster!
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That's what you get for hiring DBG
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Boyish Wrinkle Famous Landscape Painting
  09/18/19
golden rule for BIGLAW 1 page of finished work product = ...
bat-shit-crazy swashbuckling chad
  09/18/19
That sounds pretty quick
Boyish Wrinkle Famous Landscape Painting
  09/18/19
on the lower end that's definitely too quick but higher end ...
shaky wonderful school brethren
  09/18/19
exactly, just schedule one expert report for every 3 months....
razzmatazz big-titted chapel
  09/18/19
a 500 page expert report could be one guy's hours for the ye...
Vibrant lettuce queen of the night
  09/18/19
Biglaw is rarely that fast.
Hairless space fortuitous meteor
  09/18/19
rofl no. 20 page brief should be a minimum week billed. read...
Vibrant lettuce queen of the night
  09/18/19
strong poast/moniker synergy right here
shaky wonderful school brethren
  09/18/19
Do firms normally knock out an entire SCOTUS brief in a week...
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This is not the case. One hour (on average, whatever that m...
jet at-the-ready preventive strike jewess
  09/18/19
yeah this rule seems bogus. For an SJ brief I would take we...
heady emerald hominid
  09/18/19
40 hours is a lot for 11 pages. what kind of brief was it.
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Date: September 17th, 2019 10:18 AM
Author: adventurous stage

40 hours? Seems very excessive.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4345588&forum_id=2#38846711)



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Date: September 17th, 2019 10:21 AM
Author: 180 hall puppy

Pay your bills

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4345588&forum_id=2#38846724)



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Date: September 17th, 2019 10:22 AM
Author: violent laser beams brunch



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Date: September 17th, 2019 10:22 AM
Author: violent laser beams brunch

Reasonable and necessary

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4345588&forum_id=2#38846727)



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Date: September 17th, 2019 10:32 AM
Author: Mint Gaming Laptop Love Of Her Life

Seems low.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4345588&forum_id=2#38846790)



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Date: September 17th, 2019 10:36 AM
Author: Flickering Charcoal Ticket Booth Affirmative Action

Hire an XO solo next time. Have them pay 20% kickback on bills.

THIS IS NOT LEGAL ADVICE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4345588&forum_id=2#38846806)



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Date: September 17th, 2019 10:38 AM
Author: contagious frozen bawdyhouse potus



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Date: September 17th, 2019 10:36 AM
Author: Hairless space fortuitous meteor

That would typically be on the high side, but context matters. Are there tons of record citations? Did they spend two days looking for that purple squirrel citation that some Boomer knew had to be out there? . . .

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4345588&forum_id=2#38846809)



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Date: September 17th, 2019 10:38 AM
Author: heady emerald hominid

cqs

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Date: September 17th, 2019 10:39 AM
Author: Diverse twisted cuckoldry area

lawyers are expensive. could have drafted it yourself.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4345588&forum_id=2#38846826)



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Date: September 17th, 2019 10:45 AM
Author: heady emerald hominid

estimate the # of times you have heard this complaint

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4345588&forum_id=2#38846861)



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Date: September 17th, 2019 11:13 AM
Author: Diverse twisted cuckoldry area

really not that many. i bill pretty conservatively and my clients are usually appreciative of the work i do. if you work hard for your clients they usually see that and will be more receptive to an expensive bill. rather than attack the amount of time spent they will just want to spread it out over some payments.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4345588&forum_id=2#38846983)



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Date: September 18th, 2019 12:19 AM
Author: Sienna site

you guys allow clients to make payments?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4345588&forum_id=2#38850577)



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Date: September 18th, 2019 7:36 AM
Author: Diverse twisted cuckoldry area

Generally no

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4345588&forum_id=2#38851000)



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Date: September 17th, 2019 10:52 AM
Author: out-of-control ratface theatre

very excessive. i've drafted briefs more than five times that long in 40 hours.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4345588&forum_id=2#38846897)



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Date: September 17th, 2019 10:55 AM
Author: violent laser beams brunch

Oh! The BriefMaster!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4345588&forum_id=2#38846905)



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Date: September 17th, 2019 10:56 AM
Author: Flickering Charcoal Ticket Booth Affirmative Action



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Date: September 17th, 2019 11:09 AM
Author: Startling curious spot coffee pot



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Date: September 18th, 2019 7:26 AM
Author: Silver dead institution

is your name really dentons

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4345588&forum_id=2#38850991)



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Date: September 17th, 2019 11:10 AM
Author: heady emerald hominid



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Date: September 17th, 2019 11:12 AM
Author: aromatic whorehouse black woman



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Date: September 17th, 2019 11:14 AM
Author: Diverse twisted cuckoldry area



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Date: September 17th, 2019 11:46 AM
Author: wine casino



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Date: September 18th, 2019 12:14 AM
Author: Chocolate juggernaut friendly grandma



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Date: September 18th, 2019 12:15 AM
Author: Boyish Wrinkle Famous Landscape Painting



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Date: September 17th, 2019 11:48 AM
Author: Chocolate juggernaut friendly grandma

That's what you get for hiring DBG

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4345588&forum_id=2#38847198)



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Date: September 18th, 2019 12:15 AM
Author: Boyish Wrinkle Famous Landscape Painting



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Date: September 18th, 2019 12:16 AM
Author: bat-shit-crazy swashbuckling chad

golden rule for BIGLAW

1 page of finished work product = 1 hour billed on average.

20 page brief should be 20 hours give or take 20%

100 page expert report should be 100, etc.

this includes research, analysis, internal discussions, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4345588&forum_id=2#38850567)



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Date: September 18th, 2019 12:17 AM
Author: Boyish Wrinkle Famous Landscape Painting

That sounds pretty quick

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4345588&forum_id=2#38850568)



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Date: September 18th, 2019 12:20 AM
Author: shaky wonderful school brethren

on the lower end that's definitely too quick but higher end sounds right. I don't think "assisting" an expert write a 100 page report should take more than 100 hours. some of those things can be 500 pages long. you could just write 4 of those to get all your hours for the year.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4345588&forum_id=2#38850580)



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Date: September 18th, 2019 12:33 AM
Author: razzmatazz big-titted chapel

exactly, just schedule one expert report for every 3 months. i'm always doing it wrong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4345588&forum_id=2#38850616)



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Date: September 18th, 2019 12:45 AM
Author: Vibrant lettuce queen of the night

a 500 page expert report could be one guy's hours for the year

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4345588&forum_id=2#38850651)



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Date: September 18th, 2019 12:17 AM
Author: Hairless space fortuitous meteor

Biglaw is rarely that fast.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4345588&forum_id=2#38850571)



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Date: September 18th, 2019 12:18 AM
Author: Vibrant lettuce queen of the night

rofl no. 20 page brief should be a minimum week billed. read the DBG billing method thread.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4345588&forum_id=2#38850573)



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Date: September 18th, 2019 12:18 AM
Author: shaky wonderful school brethren

strong poast/moniker synergy right here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4345588&forum_id=2#38850575)



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Date: September 18th, 2019 7:16 AM
Author: Flickering Charcoal Ticket Booth Affirmative Action

Do firms normally knock out an entire SCOTUS brief in a week?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4345588&forum_id=2#38850984)



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Date: September 18th, 2019 7:45 AM
Author: jet at-the-ready preventive strike jewess

This is not the case. One hour (on average, whatever that means) for one page of "finished" work product? Are you talking out of your anus? +/- 20% for the time spent on a finished 20 page paper, flattening all levels of quality and complexity?

As a topic, biglol billing is ripe for mockery and jokery. But you know that 1:1 hour:page programs don't help anyone - the associate getting fired for not making billables, the partner not generating revenue, and the in-house counsel drone wagging his finger at the bill and threatening to port his company's business each month when the invoice comes (as if the input of that washed out taskmaster holds any sway over an officer/board allocation).

Pay your fucking bills. Pay them on time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4345588&forum_id=2#38851014)



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Date: September 18th, 2019 7:52 AM
Author: heady emerald hominid

yeah this rule seems bogus. For an SJ brief I would take well more than one hour a page. For a basic motion to compel, less.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4345588&forum_id=2#38851030)



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Date: September 18th, 2019 12:17 AM
Author: razzmatazz big-titted chapel

40 hours is a lot for 11 pages. what kind of brief was it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4345588&forum_id=2#38850572)



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Date: September 18th, 2019 12:19 AM
Author: infuriating boistinker

god what a dumb profession

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4345588&forum_id=2#38850578)



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Date: September 18th, 2019 12:20 AM
Author: shaky wonderful school brethren



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Date: September 18th, 2019 7:21 AM
Author: lascivious office



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Date: September 18th, 2019 7:25 AM
Author: Flickering Charcoal Ticket Booth Affirmative Action



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Date: September 18th, 2019 7:48 AM
Author: Ebony pontificating hospital



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