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Date: May 11th, 2020 8:46 PM
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SAT should be suspended for UC admissions, Napolitano says

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UC President Janet Napolitano recommends suspending the SAT and ACT as admissions requirements, proposing instead a plan to make them optional for two years.(Astrid Riecken / Getty Images)

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In a major decision that could lead to a shake-up of the nation’s standardized testing landscape, University of California President Janet Napolitano is recommending the suspension of the SAT and ACT tests as an admissions requirement until 2024 and possible elimination after that.

In a proposal posted Monday, Napolitano is recommending a complex and unusual five-year plan that would make the tests optional for two years and eliminate testing requirements for California students in years three and four. Then, in year five, UC would move toward a standardized assessment developed specifically for the 10-campus system.

The plan would produce rich data on which students get admitted under each strategy and how they perform in college. It could also widen access to a UC education for more disadvantaged students. But the recommendation raises concerns about how campuses would implement different entry standards for different classes.

Napolitano’s decision could tip the scales against the tests among Board of Regents members, who are scheduled to vote on the controversial issue next week.

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Her plan is not completely in line with the Academic Senate, which recently voted unanimously to keep the tests for five years while alternatives are researched. But Senate Chair Kum-Kum Bhavnani expressed appreciation that Napolitano adopted many key recommendations in a faculty task force report on testing, including development of a new assessment for the UC system.

“The Senate is pleased that the president’s recommendations are in line with the spirit of our recommendations,” Bhavnani said. “We look forward to working with the university to develop a new content-based test.”

Most campus admission officers, however, regard SAT and ACT scores as useful tools to help assess applicants and will be left with the task of figuring out how to evaluate tens of thousands of applications without them.

The UC system has temporarily suspended the testing requirement for fall 2021 applicants due to test cancellations triggered by the COVID-19 pandemic. But campuses were expected to reinstate the requirement for subsequent admission cycles after ACT and the College Board, which owns the SAT, announced plans to restart testing later this year.

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A UC decision to permanently drop the testing requirements would have an enormous impact on the future of standardized testing because of the size and prestige of the public research university. Four-fifths of UC applicants take the SAT, making the system the largest single university source of customers for the College Board.

The six universities that receive the most applications in the nation are UC campuses in Los Angeles, San Diego, Irvine, Berkeley, Santa Barbara and Davis. Last year, the UC system received 215,000 undergraduate applications.

Napolitano has identified standardized testing as a top issue facing the UC system and said regents needed to “get it right” because of the national implications of their action. UC’s decision a half-century ago to require the SAT propelled the test to a place of national prominence, and a move to eliminate the requirement in the early 1990s prompted the College Board to revise the exam to satisfy UC objections about its bias and relevance for admission reviews.

Now, however, the momentum against the tests seems inexorable, with Napolitano joining other prominent UC critics, including board Chair John A. Pérez, Vice Chair Cecilia Estolano, Regent Eloy Ortiz Oakley, Provost Michael Brown and UC Berkeley Chancellor Carol Christ.

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Critics argue that the SAT and ACT are heavily influenced by race, income and education levels of parents; question their value in predicting college success; and express concern about inequitable access to test prep. Those concerns have prompted more than 1,000 colleges and universities to drop the testing requirement. A lawsuit against the UC system also calls for the requirement to be dropped.

But the College Board and ACT have strongly pushed back, saying the tests are not biased and reflect existing inequities in access to quality education. They also say that standardized tests offer a uniform and useful yardstick for use, in tandem with grades, in assessing students in high schools across the country.

Napolitano sought to craft a compromise between test supporters and opponents by eliminating the SAT and ACT requirements immediately but returning the UC system to a standardized assessment in five years.

A key constituency is the Academic Senate, which sets admissions standards. Earlier this year, a Senate task force recommended that the university system keep the SAT and ACT for now while researching alternatives, including going test-optional and ultimately developing UC’s own assessment. That report was unanimously backed by the Senate assembly, made up of faculty leaders and campus representatives, 51 to 0 with one abstention.

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Faculty were concerned that UC leaders would reject their report and usurp their authority in the fierce politics of the testing debate. But Napolitano appears to have successfully allayed many of their concerns.

Napolitano is proposing that UC experts launch a feasibility study this summer to identify a new test that assesses what the university expects students to master to demonstrate readiness for college. She said UC would consult with K-12 educators, test experts, UC faculty and California State University, which might also use the new assessment.

If no test can be created in time for fall 2025 applicants, use of the SAT and ACT would be eliminated completely for California students. That’s the one recommendation that gives Senate members pause, Bhavnani said.

Under Napolitano’s recommendation, students may choose to take the SAT and ACT until 2025 in order to qualify for scholarships, determine UC course placement or secure eligibility for admissions in one distinct category. Applicants from other states and countries could continue to use those tests, or possibly a new UC assessment.

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In its own recommendation for a UC assessment, the faculty task force estimated it could take nine years to develop and some experts have put the potential cost at $100 million.

However, Li Cai, a UCLA statistician, psychologist and testing expert, has said that UC could move more quickly — and share the cost — by marshaling a national coalition to develop a state-of-the art assessment within five years. A new assessment could potentially begin with ninth-graders, he said, analyzing their growth throughout high school, and use newer testing technologies to measure not only academic knowledge, but other valued qualities such as curiosity, resilience and collaborative problem-solving skills. Others, however, favor a single exam to minimize testing.

Napolitano’s recommendation to go test-optional for two years also is likely to gain faculty endorsement. Although the task force explicitly rejected a test-optional policy for now, Bhavnani said the COVID-19 crisis had since forced UC to adopt one for fall 2021 applicants. The Senate was probably going to recommend extending that policy for fall 2022 applicants as well, Bhavnani said, which would dovetail with Napolitano’s recommendation.

And while the Senate did not endorse test-blind admissions — meaning that UC would not use standardized test scores at all in admissions decisions even if submitted — faculty members seemed open to Napolitano’s recommendation to try that strategy for two years. Bhavani said it was an “intriguing” idea that she expected the Senate would want to discuss further.

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Several campus admissions officers, for their part, have said they would prefer no test to an optional testing policy because they were concerned about administering different standards for different applicants and fairly evaluating applicants who don’t submit scores compared to those who do.

Napolitano also asked faculty leaders for additional analysis about the reasons why UC students do not fully reflect the state’s diversity. In its February review, the task force found that the biggest reasons for the mismatch was not the SAT, but that smaller proportions of disadvantaged students took the full suite of required college preparatory courses and applied to UC.

In what it called surprising findings, the Academic Senate’s review found that the SAT test actually helps disadvantaged students gain entry to the selective UC system. That’s because the way UC uses standardized test scores substantially corrects for bias by weighting them less heavily than grades and considering them as only one of 14 factors in a comprehensive review process, the review found. Campuses adjust for socioeconomic differences and admit disadvantaged students with lower test scores compared to more advantaged peers.

Other researchers, however, have criticized the task force’s findings as erroneous. Some faculty members are pushing to replace the SAT and ACT with the state test used to assess K-12 students, known as Smarter Balanced, because they say research shows it predicts college performance equally well, with less bias against disadvantaged students.

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The task force rejected proposals to use Smarter Balanced, citing concerns over the exam’s suitability for UC, test security and viability for applicants from other states and countries. In addition, Cai said, state data show wide racial disparities on Smarter Balanced test performance.

Napolitano, however, left the door open for Smarter Balanced to be rejiggered for UC admissions, calling for experts to consider that test in efforts to “modify or create” a new assessment.

The UC president also asked the Senate to work with administrators to determine appropriate admissions requirements for out-of-state and international students if the SAT and ACT are eliminated for Californians. To win admission to UC, nonresidents must “compare favorably” to California students, which typically has been evaluated in part with standardized test scores.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4532215&forum_id=2#40191908)



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Date: May 11th, 2020 8:48 PM
Author: harsh nibblets spot

This will get interesting at certain schools

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4532215&forum_id=2#40191919)



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Date: May 11th, 2020 8:51 PM
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But Senate Chair Kum-Kum Bhavnani expressed appreciation that Napolitano adopted many key recommendations in a faculty task force report on testing, including development of a new assessment for the UC system.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4532215&forum_id=2#40191942)



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Date: May 11th, 2020 8:51 PM
Author: Thriller Pit

Kum-Kum Bhavnani

Kum-Kum Bhavnani

Kum-Kum Bhavnani

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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4532215&forum_id=2#40191944)



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Date: May 11th, 2020 9:19 PM
Author: Maroon Lascivious Genital Piercing



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Date: May 11th, 2020 10:48 PM
Author: Red violent site

To the tune of Guantanamera

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4532215&forum_id=2#40192512)



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Date: May 11th, 2020 9:14 PM
Author: Mind-boggling Sex Offender Roast Beef

prominent UC critics, including board Chair John A. Pérez, Vice Chair Cecilia Estolano, Regent Eloy Ortiz Oakley, Provost Michael Brown and UC Berkeley Chancellor Carol Christ.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4532215&forum_id=2#40192085)



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Date: May 11th, 2020 8:55 PM
Author: Lavender hairless home

First, the step 1 for med school is going to be completely pass/fail, so literal retards can get ortho surgery positions

Now, undergrads are getting rid of the SAT/ACT

JFC shitlibs need to be gassed. Why is the US the only country doing this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4532215&forum_id=2#40191968)



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Date: May 11th, 2020 8:57 PM
Author: Soul-stirring nofapping private investor

One guess

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4532215&forum_id=2#40191984)



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Date: May 12th, 2020 2:10 PM
Author: Insane dashing wagecucks immigrant

Begins with the letter 'L'

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4532215&forum_id=2#40196397)



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Date: May 11th, 2020 8:57 PM
Author: harsh nibblets spot



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Date: May 11th, 2020 8:58 PM
Author: demanding floppy market scourge upon the earth



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4532215&forum_id=2#40191995)



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Date: May 11th, 2020 9:14 PM
Author: Sapphire internet-worthy set

we're the only "diverse" first world nation on the planet

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4532215&forum_id=2#40192087)



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Date: May 11th, 2020 11:13 PM
Author: demanding floppy market scourge upon the earth

?first world

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4532215&forum_id=2#40192612)



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Date: May 11th, 2020 8:57 PM
Author: sexy tanning salon

The winner here is USC and other TTT cali private schools.

Actually -- the loser since they will be flooded with gooks. LJL.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4532215&forum_id=2#40191986)



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Date: May 11th, 2020 10:49 PM
Author: Red violent site



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Date: May 11th, 2020 8:59 PM
Author: Copper unholy public bath

why is being excellent at something so frowned upon by libs?

i know the answer, but it's still baffling.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4532215&forum_id=2#40192003)



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Date: May 11th, 2020 9:01 PM
Author: Bisexual indecent goal in life

they'll still be required for whites and asians and "optional" for everyone else

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4532215&forum_id=2#40192014)



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Date: May 11th, 2020 9:04 PM
Author: Copper unholy public bath

"and [we can ding] asians [because they're not 'well-rounded']..."

i still maintain that asians are the key to thwart the lib menace. i know i am alone in this. but eventually this full assault on their kids will be enough. they started to shake the trees in nyc but aren't all the way there yet.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4532215&forum_id=2#40192043)



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Date: May 11th, 2020 9:13 PM
Author: Vivacious wild electric furnace heaven

CA Asians have been here for generations; they have no excuse

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4532215&forum_id=2#40192081)



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Date: May 11th, 2020 9:17 PM
Author: sexy tanning salon

Bullshit.

90% of California Asians have 0 grandparents born in the USA.

75% have parents that were not born here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4532215&forum_id=2#40192108)



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Date: May 11th, 2020 9:54 PM
Author: Salmon infuriating background story

didn't SF asians vote overwhelmingly for chesa boudin, the pro-crime district attorney?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4532215&forum_id=2#40192287)



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Date: May 11th, 2020 10:51 PM
Author: pink idiotic native organic girlfriend

they hated how Suzie Loftus and the Democratic Establishment tried to force Oriental Candidate Nancy Tung out of the race, so they gave their second place votes to Chesa instead of Suzie.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4532215&forum_id=2#40192528)



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Date: May 11th, 2020 9:24 PM
Author: Crystalline Therapy

Ching chongs are gonna have to choose - ally with whitey or be left out of Stuyvesant and Berkeley

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4532215&forum_id=2#40192140)



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Date: May 11th, 2020 10:33 PM
Author: Contagious Station

They're going to give up the schools. There aren't enough recent immigrants who benefit from standardized testing and lots of more liberal later generations.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4532215&forum_id=2#40192435)



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Date: May 11th, 2020 10:33 PM
Author: Crystalline Therapy

No they won't. Great schools is literally all they have. Once that liberalism affects their kids it changes things.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4532215&forum_id=2#40192441)



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Date: May 11th, 2020 10:36 PM
Author: Contagious Station

Asians heavily leaned Democratic in 2016 and 2018.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4532215&forum_id=2#40192457)



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Date: May 11th, 2020 10:40 PM
Author: Crystalline Therapy

Of course, because libs haven't truly gone after their kids' schools yet, that's my point

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4532215&forum_id=2#40192475)



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Date: May 11th, 2020 10:45 PM
Author: Contagious Station

The response to the Harvard AA lawsuit suggests most Asians are willing to get fucked.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4532215&forum_id=2#40192495)



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Date: May 11th, 2020 9:04 PM
Author: mint hairraiser address travel guidebook

The super fair test they are developing is going to be a quarter in spanish and a quarter about rappers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4532215&forum_id=2#40192035)



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Date: May 11th, 2020 9:07 PM
Author: Lavender hairless home

why even maintain a facade? they can just amend the Constitution to say racial discrimination is acceptable for employment and educatio purposes. or at the very least have SCOTUS interpret the Constitution to say so



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4532215&forum_id=2#40192051)



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Date: May 11th, 2020 9:24 PM
Author: Crystalline Therapy

will be there any overlap

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4532215&forum_id=2#40192144)



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Date: May 11th, 2020 9:35 PM
Author: Fuchsia Insecure Box Office

Asians will still ace it. This is the same dumbass argument libs make about the Electoral College and Trump.

Pick a criteria of your choice. The cream will rise to the top, no matter what.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4532215&forum_id=2#40192186)



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Date: May 11th, 2020 9:55 PM
Author: Costumed pocket flask

"holistic determination inclusive of soft factors and in particular the applicant's commitment to diversity, equity and inclusion" as decided in faculty committee backrooms by a committee of shitlibs

let's see you ace THAT, asians!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4532215&forum_id=2#40192290)



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Date: May 11th, 2020 10:33 PM
Author: Crystalline Therapy

gooks listening to Lil Wayne albums to prepare for the new SAT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4532215&forum_id=2#40192436)



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Date: May 11th, 2020 9:46 PM
Author: Maroon Lascivious Genital Piercing



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4532215&forum_id=2#40192248)



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Date: May 11th, 2020 9:10 PM
Author: Contagious Station

Not letting the crisis go to waste.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4532215&forum_id=2#40192062)



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Date: May 11th, 2020 9:12 PM
Author: lake aphrodisiac rehab

It’s amazing how many useful idiot boomers/whites still vote democrat

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4532215&forum_id=2#40192074)



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Date: May 11th, 2020 9:14 PM
Author: Lavender hairless home

boomers need to die

we need to reopen everything ASAP and try to pozz as many boomers as possible

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4532215&forum_id=2#40192082)



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Date: May 11th, 2020 10:04 PM
Author: carnelian razzle masturbator

boomers dont care about the youth

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4532215&forum_id=2#40192308)



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Date: May 11th, 2020 9:16 PM
Author: Autistic poppy locus french chef

The arrogance of these shitlibs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4532215&forum_id=2#40192096)



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Date: May 11th, 2020 9:59 PM
Author: Stimulating mahogany parlor cuck

just about any standardized test will end up primarily measuring g and produce the same group differences. it would be incredibly hard to change the test enough that non-asian minorities could end up on top, or even substantially reduce the performance gap.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4532215&forum_id=2#40192298)



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Date: May 11th, 2020 10:31 PM
Author: Contagious Station

You can really only test crystallized intelligence and fluid intelligence. Shitlibs hate the latter, so they'll have to lean on the former. But that's fertile ground for striving flash-card Asians. There's really nothing they can do about that other than make the test easy, but that's just going to mean you need a perfect score to be top 5% or whatever.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4532215&forum_id=2#40192428)



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Date: May 11th, 2020 10:35 PM
Author: Crystalline Therapy

I think in some fire depts they pass like 90% of the people and then it becomes a lottery

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4532215&forum_id=2#40192455)



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Date: May 11th, 2020 11:01 PM
Author: Bisexual indecent goal in life

"not enough" blacks were passing the tests so a bunch of FDs in the northeast did away w them

my uncle used to rant about how insane it all was

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4532215&forum_id=2#40192553)



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Date: May 11th, 2020 10:47 PM
Author: Stirring silver laser beams parlour

the skinsuiting of universities has been going on for 20-30 years. we've finally reached the point where even pretense is being ignored.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4532215&forum_id=2#40192501)



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Date: May 11th, 2020 10:47 PM
Author: electric hilarious yarmulke mother

this isn't just about asians. it's about eliminating all objective admissions standards so shitlib adcomms have unlimited discretion

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4532215&forum_id=2#40192502)



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Date: May 11th, 2020 10:52 PM
Author: amethyst mad cow disease



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4532215&forum_id=2#40192533)



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Date: May 12th, 2020 12:00 AM
Author: Vivacious wild electric furnace heaven

jew and jogger paradise

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4532215&forum_id=2#40192853)



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Date: May 12th, 2020 12:55 AM
Author: Lavender hairless home

once boomers die off, will it get better or worse?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4532215&forum_id=2#40193114)



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Date: May 12th, 2020 12:59 AM
Author: Exciting Plaza

ITT: what the third world looks sounds and feels like

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4532215&forum_id=2#40193134)



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Date: May 12th, 2020 2:34 AM
Author: pale turdskin

Lmfao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4532215&forum_id=2#40193330)



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Date: May 12th, 2020 3:52 AM
Author: Mustard orchestra pit

the next step: eliminating meaningful grades in ug so that standardised tests are no longer a good predictor of performance (because performance is no longer measured).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4532215&forum_id=2#40193412)



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Date: May 12th, 2020 2:01 PM
Author: Contagious Station

Why do you need to do that after you've already killed the tests?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4532215&forum_id=2#40196318)



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Date: May 12th, 2020 2:15 PM
Author: Vivacious wild electric furnace heaven

Two-thirds of seniors reported possessing a GPA higher than a 3.67, corresponding to an overall average grade of an A- or higher.

Only 8 percent of seniors said they had an overall average grade lower than a B+, corresponding to a GPA of 3.33 or lower.

https://features.thecrimson.com/2019/senior-survey/academics/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4532215&forum_id=2#40196435)



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Date: May 12th, 2020 7:40 PM
Author: Cracking ape



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4532215&forum_id=2#40196853)



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Date: July 3rd, 2023 7:44 PM
Author: Exciting Plaza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4532215&forum_id=2#46506179)



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Date: July 3rd, 2023 8:04 PM
Author: tantric office

there was a super lefty class action lawyer who made a shit ton of money and then got on the Alameda (Oakland) bench. in the case of Kawika v. UC, he ruled that the school can't use the standardized tests. i had the feeling that the UCs didn't fight particularly hard.

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/7072502-Smith-Order-After-Hearing-Granting-Preliminary.html

https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/01/us/university-of-california-sat-act-trnd/index.html



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4532215&forum_id=2#46506230)



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Date: July 4th, 2023 3:30 AM
Author: Exciting Plaza

lmao@ your dumbfuck third world shithole

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4532215&forum_id=2#46507324)



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Date: July 4th, 2023 2:59 PM
Author: tantric office

the rot may not show for decades but when it shows it will be far too late.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4532215&forum_id=2#46508764)



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Date: July 4th, 2023 3:43 AM
Author: Excitant factory reset button



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4532215&forum_id=2#46507334)