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Date: September 27th, 2020 11:26 PM Author: 180 associate main people (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4635089&forum_id=2#40999308) |
Date: September 27th, 2020 11:26 PM Author: Thriller Lay Potus what happens to the souls of those who pre-dated his mortal existence? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4635089&forum_id=2#40999318) |
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Date: September 27th, 2020 11:30 PM Author: 180 associate main people i reject such a notion of a soul (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4635089&forum_id=2#40999355) |
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Date: September 27th, 2020 11:31 PM Author: Thriller Lay Potus on what basis? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4635089&forum_id=2#40999371) |
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Date: September 27th, 2020 11:33 PM Author: 180 associate main people seems to me like NT scripture uses soul to mean something we have in this life (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4635089&forum_id=2#40999388) |
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Date: September 27th, 2020 11:34 PM Author: Thriller Lay Potus why do we need a savior then? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4635089&forum_id=2#40999403) |
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Date: September 27th, 2020 11:34 PM Author: 180 associate main people you must be born again (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4635089&forum_id=2#40999410) |
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Date: September 27th, 2020 11:35 PM Author: Thriller Lay Potus for what purpose if there is no soul? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4635089&forum_id=2#40999418) |
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Date: September 27th, 2020 11:35 PM Author: 180 associate main people be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4635089&forum_id=2#40999422) |
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Date: September 27th, 2020 11:36 PM Author: Thriller Lay Potus you just said you rejected such notions of a soul (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4635089&forum_id=2#40999430) |
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Date: September 27th, 2020 11:37 PM Author: 180 associate main people the soul is something that can be destroyed in hell, and it is the thing with which you love god.
christ prevents our destruction in hell and allow us to love god |
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Date: September 27th, 2020 11:40 PM Author: Thriller Lay Potus how does he prevent the destruction in hell of those who died before his resurrection? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4635089&forum_id=2#40999465) |
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Date: September 27th, 2020 11:43 PM Author: 180 associate main people even in the OT god passed on the judgment of man to the extent he deserved. the propitiation was backwards and forwards looking imo, i.e. included the propitiation for punishment already spared (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4635089&forum_id=2#40999494) |
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Date: September 27th, 2020 11:47 PM Author: Thriller Lay Potus John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. |
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Date: September 27th, 2020 11:48 PM Author: 180 associate main people there are benefits to being reconciled to the father over and above being spared eternal damnation. the question is whether those pre-incarnation could have been spared eternal damnation, and the answer is yes. however, they would not have been reconciled to the father. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4635089&forum_id=2#40999545) |
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Date: September 27th, 2020 11:43 PM Author: vigorous state elastic band lmao hi mr. alighieri
Christ is Born of The Father before all ages |
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Date: September 27th, 2020 11:44 PM Author: 180 associate main people prior to the incarnation and propitiation the question has merit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4635089&forum_id=2#40999501) |
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Date: September 27th, 2020 11:46 PM Author: Thriller Lay Potus my question accounted for that (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4635089&forum_id=2#40999530) |
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Date: September 27th, 2020 11:48 PM Author: vigorous state elastic band how does your question account for that? your question assumes temporal sequentiality that God is not subject to (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4635089&forum_id=2#40999542) |
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Date: September 27th, 2020 11:48 PM Author: Thriller Lay Potus you think salvation through Christ was attainable before his mortal existence? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4635089&forum_id=2#40999546) |
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Date: September 27th, 2020 11:49 PM Author: vigorous state elastic band what do you think "all ages" means? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4635089&forum_id=2#40999552) |
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Date: September 27th, 2020 11:50 PM Author: Thriller Lay Potus salvation occurred at Calvary (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4635089&forum_id=2#40999557) |
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Date: September 27th, 2020 11:51 PM Author: 180 associate main people i would tend to agree. wilbur also appears to be quoting some "creed" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4635089&forum_id=2#40999569) |
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Date: September 27th, 2020 11:58 PM Author: vigorous state elastic band it is the nicene creed ie the statement of trinitarian christian faith (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4635089&forum_id=2#40999627) |
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Date: September 28th, 2020 12:01 AM Author: 180 associate main people "a" statement (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4635089&forum_id=2#40999650) |
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Date: September 28th, 2020 12:02 AM Author: Thriller Lay Potus and it doesn't address my question either (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4635089&forum_id=2#40999653) |
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Date: September 28th, 2020 12:03 AM Author: 180 associate main people cr nicenes coming out of nowhere "christ's incarnation is irrelevant btw" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4635089&forum_id=2#40999661) |
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Date: September 27th, 2020 11:49 PM Author: 180 associate main people really interesting argument (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4635089&forum_id=2#40999551) |
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Date: September 27th, 2020 11:41 PM Author: Razzmatazz Hideous Jewess We don't know. But we don't have to worry about it, because God is perfectly just. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4635089&forum_id=2#40999480) |
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Date: September 28th, 2020 12:12 AM Author: 180 associate main people think im still right, but jesus said:
And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back again and take you to myself, so that where I am you also may be.
still not clear that "place" is not a place in heaven, among god, for our souls as they exist in this life. |
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Date: September 28th, 2020 10:02 AM Author: 180 associate main people (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4635089&forum_id=2#41000917) |