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Aromatic Umber Private Investor
  09/27/20
what happens to the souls of those who pre-dated his mortal ...
trip national round eye
  09/27/20
i reject such a notion of a soul
Aromatic Umber Private Investor
  09/27/20
on what basis?
trip national round eye
  09/27/20
seems to me like NT scripture uses soul to mean something we...
Aromatic Umber Private Investor
  09/27/20
why do we need a savior then?
trip national round eye
  09/27/20
you must be born again
Aromatic Umber Private Investor
  09/27/20
for what purpose if there is no soul?
trip national round eye
  09/27/20
be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in h...
Aromatic Umber Private Investor
  09/27/20
you just said you rejected such notions of a soul
trip national round eye
  09/27/20
the soul is something that can be destroyed in hell, and it ...
Aromatic Umber Private Investor
  09/27/20
how does he prevent the destruction in hell of those who die...
trip national round eye
  09/27/20
even in the OT god passed on the judgment of man to the exte...
Aromatic Umber Private Investor
  09/27/20
John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, an...
trip national round eye
  09/27/20
there are benefits to being reconciled to the father over an...
Aromatic Umber Private Investor
  09/27/20
lmao hi mr. alighieri Christ is Born of The Father before...
Irradiated police squad
  09/27/20
prior to the incarnation and propitiation the question has m...
Aromatic Umber Private Investor
  09/27/20
my question accounted for that
trip national round eye
  09/27/20
how does your question account for that? your question assum...
Irradiated police squad
  09/27/20
you think salvation through Christ was attainable before his...
trip national round eye
  09/27/20
what do you think "all ages" means?
Irradiated police squad
  09/27/20
salvation occurred at Calvary
trip national round eye
  09/27/20
i would tend to agree. wilbur also appears to be quoting som...
Aromatic Umber Private Investor
  09/27/20
it is the nicene creed ie the statement of trinitarian chris...
Irradiated police squad
  09/27/20
"a" statement
Aromatic Umber Private Investor
  09/28/20
and it doesn't address my question either
trip national round eye
  09/28/20
cr nicenes coming out of nowhere "christ's incarnation ...
Aromatic Umber Private Investor
  09/28/20
really interesting argument
Aromatic Umber Private Investor
  09/27/20
We don't know. But we don't have to worry about it, because ...
Honey-headed Theater Fanboi
  09/27/20
think im still right, but jesus said: And if I go and pre...
Aromatic Umber Private Investor
  09/28/20
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Aromatic Umber Private Investor
  09/28/20


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Date: September 27th, 2020 11:26 PM
Author: Aromatic Umber Private Investor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4635089&forum_id=2#40999308)



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Date: September 27th, 2020 11:26 PM
Author: trip national round eye

what happens to the souls of those who pre-dated his mortal existence?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4635089&forum_id=2#40999318)



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Date: September 27th, 2020 11:30 PM
Author: Aromatic Umber Private Investor

i reject such a notion of a soul

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4635089&forum_id=2#40999355)



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Date: September 27th, 2020 11:31 PM
Author: trip national round eye

on what basis?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4635089&forum_id=2#40999371)



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Date: September 27th, 2020 11:33 PM
Author: Aromatic Umber Private Investor

seems to me like NT scripture uses soul to mean something we have in this life

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4635089&forum_id=2#40999388)



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Date: September 27th, 2020 11:34 PM
Author: trip national round eye

why do we need a savior then?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4635089&forum_id=2#40999403)



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Date: September 27th, 2020 11:34 PM
Author: Aromatic Umber Private Investor

you must be born again

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4635089&forum_id=2#40999410)



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Date: September 27th, 2020 11:35 PM
Author: trip national round eye

for what purpose if there is no soul?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4635089&forum_id=2#40999418)



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Date: September 27th, 2020 11:35 PM
Author: Aromatic Umber Private Investor

be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4635089&forum_id=2#40999422)



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Date: September 27th, 2020 11:36 PM
Author: trip national round eye

you just said you rejected such notions of a soul

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4635089&forum_id=2#40999430)



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Date: September 27th, 2020 11:37 PM
Author: Aromatic Umber Private Investor

the soul is something that can be destroyed in hell, and it is the thing with which you love god.

christ prevents our destruction in hell and allow us to love god

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4635089&forum_id=2#40999441)



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Date: September 27th, 2020 11:40 PM
Author: trip national round eye

how does he prevent the destruction in hell of those who died before his resurrection?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4635089&forum_id=2#40999465)



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Date: September 27th, 2020 11:43 PM
Author: Aromatic Umber Private Investor

even in the OT god passed on the judgment of man to the extent he deserved. the propitiation was backwards and forwards looking imo, i.e. included the propitiation for punishment already spared

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4635089&forum_id=2#40999494)



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Date: September 27th, 2020 11:47 PM
Author: trip national round eye

John 14:6

Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4635089&forum_id=2#40999539)



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Date: September 27th, 2020 11:48 PM
Author: Aromatic Umber Private Investor

there are benefits to being reconciled to the father over and above being spared eternal damnation. the question is whether those pre-incarnation could have been spared eternal damnation, and the answer is yes. however, they would not have been reconciled to the father.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4635089&forum_id=2#40999545)



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Date: September 27th, 2020 11:43 PM
Author: Irradiated police squad

lmao hi mr. alighieri

Christ is Born of The Father before all ages

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4635089&forum_id=2#40999497)



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Date: September 27th, 2020 11:44 PM
Author: Aromatic Umber Private Investor

prior to the incarnation and propitiation the question has merit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4635089&forum_id=2#40999501)



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Date: September 27th, 2020 11:46 PM
Author: trip national round eye

my question accounted for that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4635089&forum_id=2#40999530)



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Date: September 27th, 2020 11:48 PM
Author: Irradiated police squad

how does your question account for that? your question assumes temporal sequentiality that God is not subject to

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4635089&forum_id=2#40999542)



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Date: September 27th, 2020 11:48 PM
Author: trip national round eye

you think salvation through Christ was attainable before his mortal existence?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4635089&forum_id=2#40999546)



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Date: September 27th, 2020 11:49 PM
Author: Irradiated police squad

what do you think "all ages" means?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4635089&forum_id=2#40999552)



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Date: September 27th, 2020 11:50 PM
Author: trip national round eye

salvation occurred at Calvary

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4635089&forum_id=2#40999557)



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Date: September 27th, 2020 11:51 PM
Author: Aromatic Umber Private Investor

i would tend to agree. wilbur also appears to be quoting some "creed"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4635089&forum_id=2#40999569)



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Date: September 27th, 2020 11:58 PM
Author: Irradiated police squad

it is the nicene creed ie the statement of trinitarian christian faith

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4635089&forum_id=2#40999627)



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Date: September 28th, 2020 12:01 AM
Author: Aromatic Umber Private Investor

"a" statement

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4635089&forum_id=2#40999650)



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Date: September 28th, 2020 12:02 AM
Author: trip national round eye

and it doesn't address my question either

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4635089&forum_id=2#40999653)



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Date: September 28th, 2020 12:03 AM
Author: Aromatic Umber Private Investor

cr nicenes coming out of nowhere "christ's incarnation is irrelevant btw"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4635089&forum_id=2#40999661)



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Date: September 27th, 2020 11:49 PM
Author: Aromatic Umber Private Investor

really interesting argument

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4635089&forum_id=2#40999551)



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Date: September 27th, 2020 11:41 PM
Author: Honey-headed Theater Fanboi

We don't know. But we don't have to worry about it, because God is perfectly just.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4635089&forum_id=2#40999480)



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Date: September 28th, 2020 12:12 AM
Author: Aromatic Umber Private Investor

think im still right, but jesus said:

And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back again and take you to myself, so that where I am you also may be.

still not clear that "place" is not a place in heaven, among god, for our souls as they exist in this life.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4635089&forum_id=2#40999716)



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Date: September 28th, 2020 10:02 AM
Author: Aromatic Umber Private Investor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4635089&forum_id=2#41000917)