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Johns Hopkins analysis: COVID has had no effect on overall US death rates
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Date: November 26th, 2020 10:41 PM Author: Lemon Flickering Rehab https://web.archive.org/web/20201126163323/https://www.jhunewsletter.com/article/2020/11/a-closer-look-at-u-s-deaths-due-to-covid-19
According to new data, the U.S. currently ranks first in total COVID-19 cases, new cases per day and deaths. Genevieve Briand, assistant program director of the Applied Economics master’s degree program at Hopkins, critically analyzed the effect of COVID-19 on U.S. deaths using data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) in her webinar titled “COVID-19 Deaths: A Look at U.S. Data.”
From mid-March to mid-September, U.S. total deaths have reached 1.7 million, of which 200,000, or 12% of total deaths, are COVID-19-related. Instead of looking directly at COVID-19 deaths, Briand focused on total deaths per age group and per cause of death in the U.S. and used this information to shed light on the effects of COVID-19.
She explained that the significance of COVID-19 on U.S. deaths can be fully understood only through comparison to the number of total deaths in the United States.
After retrieving data on the CDC website, Briand compiled a graph representing percentages of total deaths per age category from early February to early September, which includes the period from before COVID-19 was detected in the U.S. to after infection rates soared.
Surprisingly, the deaths of older people stayed the same before and after COVID-19. Since COVID-19 mainly affects the elderly, experts expected an increase in the percentage of deaths in older age groups. However, this increase is not seen from the CDC data. In fact, the percentages of deaths among all age groups remain relatively the same.
“The reason we have a higher number of reported COVID-19 deaths among older individuals than younger individuals is simply because every day in the U.S. older individuals die in higher numbers than younger individuals,” Briand said.
Briand also noted that 50,000 to 70,000 deaths are seen both before and after COVID-19, indicating that this number of deaths was normal long before COVID-19 emerged. Therefore, according to Briand, not only has COVID-19 had no effect on the percentage of deaths of older people, but it has also not increased the total number of deaths.
These data analyses suggest that in contrast to most people’s assumptions, the number of deaths by COVID-19 is not alarming. In fact, it has relatively no effect on deaths in the United States.
This comes as a shock to many people. How is it that the data lie so far from our perception?
To answer that question, Briand shifted her focus to the deaths per causes ranging from 2014 to 2020. There is a sudden increase in deaths in 2020 due to COVID-19. This is no surprise because COVID-19 emerged in the U.S. in early 2020, and thus COVID-19-related deaths increased drastically afterward.
Analysis of deaths per cause in 2018 revealed that the pattern of seasonal increase in the total number of deaths is a result of the rise in deaths by all causes, with the top three being heart disease, respiratory diseases, influenza and pneumonia.
“This is true every year. Every year in the U.S. when we observe the seasonal ups and downs, we have an increase of deaths due to all causes,” Briand pointed out.
When Briand looked at the 2020 data during that seasonal period, COVID-19-related deaths exceeded deaths from heart diseases. This was highly unusual since heart disease has always prevailed as the leading cause of deaths. However, when taking a closer look at the death numbers, she noted something strange. As Briand compared the number of deaths per cause during that period in 2020 to 2018, she noticed that instead of the expected drastic increase across all causes, there was a significant decrease in deaths due to heart disease. Even more surprising, as seen in the graph below, this sudden decline in deaths is observed for all other causes.
This trend is completely contrary to the pattern observed in all previous years. Interestingly, as depicted in the table below, the total decrease in deaths by other causes almost exactly equals the increase in deaths by COVID-19. This suggests, according to Briand, that the COVID-19 death toll is misleading. Briand believes that deaths due to heart diseases, respiratory diseases, influenza and pneumonia may instead be recategorized as being due to COVID-19.
The CDC classified all deaths that are related to COVID-19 simply as COVID-19 deaths. Even patients dying from other underlying diseases but are infected with COVID-19 count as COVID-19 deaths. This is likely the main explanation as to why COVID-19 deaths drastically increased while deaths by all other diseases experienced a significant decrease.
“All of this points to no evidence that COVID-19 created any excess deaths. Total death numbers are not above normal death numbers. We found no evidence to the contrary,” Briand concluded.
In an interview with The News-Letter, Briand addressed the question of whether COVID-19 deaths can be called misleading since the infection might have exacerbated and even led to deaths by other underlying diseases.
“If [the COVID-19 death toll] was not misleading at all, what we should have observed is an increased number of heart attacks and increased COVID-19 numbers. But a decreased number of heart attacks and all the other death causes doesn’t give us a choice but to point to some misclassification,” Briand replied.
In other words, the effect of COVID-19 on deaths in the U.S. is considered problematic only when it increases the total number of deaths or the true death burden by a significant amount in addition to the expected deaths by other causes. Since the crude number of total deaths by all causes before and after COVID-19 has stayed the same, one can hardly say, in Briand’s view, that COVID-19 deaths are concerning.
Briand also mentioned that more research and data are needed to truly decipher the effect of COVID-19 on deaths in the United States.
Throughout the talk, Briand constantly emphasized that although COVID-19 is a serious national and global problem, she also stressed that society should never lose focus of the bigger picture — death in general.
The death of a loved one, from COVID-19 or from other causes, is always tragic, Briand explained. Each life is equally important and we should be reminded that even during a global pandemic we should not forget about the tragic loss of lives from other causes.
According to Briand, the over-exaggeration of the COVID-19 death number may be due to the constant emphasis on COVID-19-related deaths and the habitual overlooking of deaths by other natural causes in society.
During an interview with The News-Letter after the event, Poorna Dharmasena, a master’s candidate in Applied Economics, expressed his opinion about Briand’s concluding remarks.
“At the end of the day, it’s still a deadly virus. And over-exaggeration or not, to a certain degree, is irrelevant,” Dharmasena said.
When asked whether the public should be informed about this exaggeration in death numbers, Dharmasena stated that people have a right to know the truth. However, COVID-19 should still continuously be treated as a deadly disease to safeguard the vulnerable population.
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https://www.jhunewsletter.com/article/2020/11/a-closer-look-at-u-s-deaths-due-to-covid-19 |
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Date: November 26th, 2020 11:18 PM Author: Puce odious gaping incel "But a decreased number of heart attacks and all the other death causes doesn’t give us a choice but to point to some misclassification,” Briand replied." . . Q: Are hospitals inflating the number of COVID-19 cases and deaths so they can be paid more?
A: Recent legislation pays hospitals higher Medicare rates for COVID-19 patients and treatment, but there is no evidence of fraudulent reporting. hmmm. we have a crazy mystery here. |
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Date: November 26th, 2020 11:28 PM Author: blue adventurous fat ankles When Briand looked at the 2020 data during that seasonal period, COVID-19-related deaths exceeded deaths from heart diseases. This was highly unusual since heart disease has always prevailed as the leading cause of deaths. However, when taking a closer look at the death numbers, she noted something strange. As Briand compared the number of deaths per cause during that period in 2020 to 2018, she noticed that instead of the expected drastic increase across all causes, there was a significant decrease in deaths due to heart disease. Even more surprising, as seen in the graph below, this sudden decline in deaths is observed for all other causes. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41443200) |
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Date: November 26th, 2020 11:42 PM Author: Lemon Flickering Rehab When Briand looked at the 2020 data during that seasonal period, COVID-19-related deaths exceeded deaths from heart diseases. This was highly unusual since heart disease has always prevailed as the leading cause of deaths. However, when taking a closer look at the death numbers, she noted something strange. As Briand compared the number of deaths per cause during that period in 2020 to 2018, she noticed that instead of the expected drastic increase across all causes, there was a significant decrease in deaths due to heart disease. Even more surprising, as seen in the graph below, this sudden decline in deaths is observed for all other causes.
This trend is completely contrary to the pattern observed in all previous years. Interestingly, as depicted in the table below, the total decrease in deaths by other causes almost exactly equals the increase in deaths by COVID-19. This suggests, according to Briand, that the COVID-19 death toll is misleading. Briand believes that deaths due to heart diseases, respiratory diseases, influenza and pneumonia may instead be recategorized as being due to COVID-19.
The CDC classified all deaths that are related to COVID-19 simply as COVID-19 deaths. Even patients dying from other underlying diseases but are infected with COVID-19 count as COVID-19 deaths. This is likely the main explanation as to why COVID-19 deaths drastically increased while deaths by all other diseases experienced a significant decrease.
“All of this points to no evidence that COVID-19 created any excess deaths. Total death numbers are not above normal death numbers. We found no evidence to the contrary,” Briand concluded. |
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Date: November 26th, 2020 11:44 PM Author: amber floppy range Vast majority of deaths in US aren't covid related. It doesn't mean covid has had no effect on the death rate, it's just a drop in the bucket compared to normal deaths.
Like sure, 3000 people died on 9/11 but thousands more just died that day. |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 12:12 AM Author: talented public bath pervert the article says “All of this points to no evidence that COVID-19 created any excess deaths. Total death numbers are not above normal death numbers. We found no evidence to the contrary.” so are you being dumb or dishonest? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41443384) |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 12:35 PM Author: Insane useless brakes lay Sure, but you have to balance that against all the other 2020 changes (e.g., work from home results in fewer auto collision deaths). If there are two categories of changes (covid and covid-related societal changes), you cant day normal death numbers means covid doesn't result in excess deaths. That may or may not be true. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41445339) |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 12:38 PM Author: blue adventurous fat ankles Auto deaths have spiked higher than 2019.
https://usa.streetsblog.org/2020/08/31/roadway-deaths-are-way-higher-than-normal-report/ |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 1:11 PM Author: blue adventurous fat ankles Tbf that's just the rate. There were 300 fewer deaths in sum. Crazy given how many fewer miles were traveled. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41445512) |
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Date: November 30th, 2020 1:14 PM Author: Insane useless brakes lay That's crazy and counterintuitive. At any rate, you still need to at least attempt to analyze/control for the other crazy outlier variables of 2020 before legitimately concluding that Covid has not directly caused more deaths than any other year. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41461534) |
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Date: November 30th, 2020 1:16 PM Author: blue adventurous fat ankles Roads are open and people are driving way faster so crashes we do get are really fucked up.
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Date: November 27th, 2020 12:04 AM Author: Grizzly Gas Station So what's the deal with Sweden then? Aren't they freaking out about a new spoke of deaths and considering a lockdown now or some shit? I don't think they're misclassifying deaths there like in the US. Not a lib just trying to figure out wtf is going on (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41443349) |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 11:04 AM Author: violent lascivious community account Small minded libs should have their rights spiked (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41444828) |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 7:00 AM Author: diverse abode skinny woman the media has bombarded them with constant covid fearmongering for months in an effort to "discredit" their proper strategy (aka, can't let people know the truth about the fraudvirus) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41444126) |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 12:28 PM Author: Obsidian knife I am mildly fraudvirus but fuckin LOL at how predictable you people are with these whiny explanations. the media did it! the deep state! Whaah! Never, ever is it ‘we miscalculated’ or ‘thenpolicy failed.’ Smart people Cana cknowledge disfavored explanations and still maintain core principles. Trumpomos are nearly uniform in their inability to do so. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41445269) |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 12:46 PM Author: Sickened forum Shut up, queer. If the answer is, "mistakes were made," then your disingenuous shitlib ilk should be saying so on CNN. Lock down boomers forever and resume everything else as if nothing happened, it's nbd. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41445399) |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 12:48 PM Author: blue adventurous fat ankles Explain pulling the article because it spreads disinformation (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41445404) |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 12:50 PM Author: Sickened forum he can just ad hominem you, "gibberish." They only attack the weakest possible points/persons/weaknesses. They just want to win and don't care about facts/truth/justice, they treat it like Debate Club (no offence haha). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41445425) |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 12:10 AM Author: blue adventurous fat ankles I predict they fudge these numbers at the end of the year and back date a bunch from 2021. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41443371) |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 12:16 AM Author: Bronze depressive location Ok but guys, let's not rush into anything here. Trump has already lost (yes they cheated in 100 different ways, we all know that) but that's done and I REALLY don't want to go back to the office. Virus so scary let's all stay home (or in my case, in Florida on the ocean hundreds of miles from my place of work) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41443405) |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 12:17 AM Author: blue adventurous fat ankles You have until June at the least. Dark winter coming bro. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41443408) |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 12:18 AM Author: Bronze depressive location I need this to go on for a few more years until GC gives up on back to office. Then we can declare fraudvirus in time for Trump 2024 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41443413) |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 12:23 AM Author: blue adventurous fat ankles https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1364231/moderna-coronavirus-vaccine-transmission
They're already setting the stage for saying some lockdown measures last past the vaccine. But hate to say once your job goes permanent wfh your competition is going to be global. You know boomers, right? |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 2:25 AM Author: Wine French Kitchen Confirms my initial suspicion that covid-19 is just a novel categorization nomenclature for a known mutating strain that is just marketed so that an already created vaccine is authorized for release. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41443848) |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 9:33 AM Author: aquamarine maniacal lodge patrolman What would be the point of that? Government is paying for vaccinations. Why would trump agree to this when it would torpedo his reelection chances? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41444452) |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 2:30 AM Author: Mint Marketing Idea probably true, but hide this because telework is fantastic (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41443861) |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 3:47 AM Author: big volcanic crater As opposed to being cooped up in an office or cubicle? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41444004) |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 9:25 AM Author: Bronze depressive location If trump had said keep it open but tax credits for wfh we would barely remember joe bidens name right now. There arent enough fake ballots out there. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41444426) |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 10:54 AM Author: Sable vengeful juggernaut mad-dog skullcap don't forget the ugly people who like masks and people with no social lives or friends. together these people make up a disappointingly high percentage of "society" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41444761) |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 10:56 AM Author: Bronze depressive location Im telling you, trump should have doubled down on wfh. The common flu kills people too. One death is too many. Plus its SO good for the environment. Please god i dont want to go back (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41444772) |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 11:25 PM Author: Mint Marketing Idea trump HATES telework...he once said that he does not believe that teleworking federal employees do much at all...fuck him...he got what he deserves (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41448389) |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 11:01 AM Author: Sickened forum Libs, fuckin' show yourselves. I am bumping this thread until Rudolph or the Joseph R Biden motherfucker appear. I am so bloody tired of their annoying as fuck tactic where they attack the weakest possible aspects of their "opponent" (e.g. Trump's personality), while ignoring the mountain of evidence that they are weak-minded effeminate authoritarian Loser morons who are wrong about everything. Libs, like Women, are hard-wired to never look at the big picture of basically anything. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41444814) |
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Date: November 30th, 2020 1:12 PM Author: blue adventurous fat ankles Her breakdown of how deaths per day average hasn't changed is the most telling. Hard to fudge that one. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41461520) |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 11:50 AM Author: Lemon Flickering Rehab https://twitter.com/jhunewsletter/status/1332100136152035330?s=21
The article “A closer look at U.S. deaths due to COVID-19,” published in the Science & Technology section on Nov. 22, has been deleted.
Though making clear the need for further research, the article was being used to support false and dangerous inaccuracies about the impact of the pandemic. We regret that this article may have contributed to the spread of misinformation about COVID-19. |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 1:14 PM Author: lime histrionic set Ill push this back a little bit and welcome clarification:
The purported reason for the withdrawal of the article is lack of peer review, combined with the researcher reaching a diametrically opposite conclusion from the CDC.
I'll defer to neither of them.
The CDC claims a rise in excess death of around 300k this year. It's hard for me, a non stats lolyer, to make good sense of how they get this number, but it appears to use a metric they call "expected death" -- which is far more opaque than just counting. They measure week over same week in previous years and use locales more granular than the entire US.
Nonetheless, they point to, in black and white language, an excess death that *would* match up with covid, somewhere around 300k.
Spending five minutes on google, it's hard to get direct access to annual deaths in the US. The number has seemed to be around 2.8M for the past few years, but as a percentage of total pop it has been slinking downwards slightly. Id guess there are a handful of things you have to measure -- how big is the fucking country? What's its rate of pop increase? (For example, did 5M fewer migrants come in from the south this year?) Is it aging? What should be the total deaths in the US for 2020 if covid never left the bat -- based purely on models from 2017 forward?
THATS the number, of course, to measure against actual deaths so far.
Long story short, this lady claims NO excess deaths and its disputed. Rather than accept her claim, Id appreciate clarity. If only to BLAST this through the libosphere of my acquaintances |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 1:18 PM Author: blue adventurous fat ankles You will never find this information. I've seen it compiled once before and then deleted. Seems like a pretty straight forward issue. It's just a number. Why is it so hard to find?
Sweden's was poasted here and showed a decrease compared to 2017.
This also doesn't explain eg the all of a sudden decline in heart disease. C'mon man! |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 1:22 PM Author: lime histrionic set Im leaving aside the shifting ingredients OF the number for the time being. For example, if there is indeed a 300k increase, Im not that bothered by covid supplanting heart disease as COD on more and more deaths. Its a bureaucratic quirk that we only use one COD, and we already know that people who die of covid are unwell.
But there OUGHT to be a number that is Expected 2020 death total in USA (based on previous years and slight adjustments for rate of genpop increase and aging [if the country is aging, i dont even know]).
THAT number is important and must be ascertainable in some of these CDC links |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 1:26 PM Author: blue adventurous fat ankles Yeah, but heart disease drops? Yeah sure.
There was a poaster here running the numbers on a google doc. I think he slipped on a bullet. |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 1:31 PM Author: lime histrionic set I dont think it would be that controversial to say, "without covid we'd list this death as heart. with covid, we list the same corpse as covid. It was the trigger which exacerbated a vulnerable circulatory system".
They only get to list the ONE fucking cause, which is just a problem in data collecting, not a conspiracy.
What would be massively controversial is her claim that -- while covid was supplanting heart and other things -- there was no actual increase in dead bodies.
CDC contradicts this as frankly as she claims it.
That needs a public adjudication |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 1:34 PM Author: blue adventurous fat ankles I don't believe they do this with any other causes of death. If you have a respiratory disease and get a heart attack and die after eating like shit for 50 years, did the cold kill you? Well they do that with covid.
Cdc should publish some numbers. She pulled from their website. Listen to her presentation before they pull it. |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 1:44 PM Author: maroon idiotic son of senegal native they do not. They also list covid as cause of death for things like motorcycle accidents
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/florida-motorcyclist-covid-death/ |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 3:49 PM Author: Razzmatazz gaped organic girlfriend To be fair,
Status: “Outdated”
Lol libs ur all gonna die |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 3:56 PM Author: Lemon Flickering Rehab aka "You caught us lying" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41446411) |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 4:00 PM Author: Razzmatazz gaped organic girlfriend To be fair,
Bro that’s been debunked please stop with these outdated white nationalist talking points |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 1:55 PM Author: lime histrionic set I went and found her graph, which appears to show total deaths, reaching back to 2014. The line undulates seasonally.
I dont know how to link from my phone. But if you google aier.org and "accounting error" you will find it.
Around 2014, the total death per week was around 50k and it has been slowly rising to closer to 60k as years pass.
There was a peak in 2018, presumably with a bad flu, and a higher peak in spring 2020. The higher peak is slightly explained by the baseline average being higher (more people I guess), but even still it is higher, though by a small number -- 11 thousand.
I still dont know where the CDC is getting its 300k excess death numbers. Starting to think its fraud, but would like to read more before announcing a total fraud-conspiracy.
This conversation should be precise as hell. |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 2:02 PM Author: blue adventurous fat ankles (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41445793) |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 6:53 PM Author: harsh tank (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41447244) |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 2:02 PM Author: blue adventurous fat ankles https://wmbriggs.com/post/33626/
Scroll down to his numbers run |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 1:59 PM Author: outnumbered flirting coffee pot foreskin I knew the virus's severity and just about everything else about it was being exaggerated, but I assumed it is actually increasing # of deaths to at least some significant extent, particularly in the elderly.
Now I don't know. How fucking hard is it to state the number of raw deaths in 2017, 2018, and 2019 through October and then compare to the # of deaths through October 2020?
WHY IS THIS DATA SO HARD TO FIND |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 2:02 PM Author: Charismatic station azn because libs don't like the result (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41445790) |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 2:02 PM Author: titillating slap-happy box office *MSNBC calmly explaining how it's illegal for you to look at COVID death statistics* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41445791) |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 2:05 PM Author: maroon idiotic son of senegal native Trumptard. The data is MISINFORMATION (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41445806) |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 2:13 PM Author: Lemon Flickering Rehab (Guy about to be raided by the FBI for thought crimes) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41445853) |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 2:15 PM Author: Godawful misunderstood boltzmann i find this thread really confusing.
i promise - i PROMISE - i don't have a dog in this fight. i really just am interested in knowing the truth, i am completely politically agnostic. and as evidence of that i invite everyone to revisit the threads i created in april and may measuring excess mortality. my conclusions back then were that there DID appear to be a significant increase in all-cause mortality in the weeks in which COVID was or was supposedly ravaging various parts of the country
is that wrong, now? |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 2:18 PM Author: blue adventurous fat ankles You should listen to her presentation (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41445877) |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 2:25 PM Author: lime histrionic set I agree entirely. Even by the charts she and the other debunkers are using, there is a big spike in deaths in the spring of 2020... bigger than any spike going back to 2013.
By her own chart, the 2020 peak is 11k over the peak in 2018, the only year that comes very close. (And peaks are peaks off average numbers between 50 and 60, so 11 is very visible.)
Perhaps the low part of the cycle eats up that spike and the year averages out the same as 2018.... Without doing the math I would say it looks like there will be excess deaths this year.
It looks like it will be five digits excess, though (presuming December doesnt go buckwild like April).
So on the one hand, you have the CDC saying 300,000 excess, and this woman saying basically no excess, and the truth being somewhere in the five digits.
Further complicating things, peaks are no good because everyone dies at the same time, and 2020 had a helluva a peak in April. Even if the "excess" irons out to a humble number, institutions are obviously built to deal with gentle seasonal swings, not excess. I could see some regional areas getting reamed by a local peak which might be much spikier than the national charts illustrate.
Say, El Paso peaking 500% over two weeks or something.
My takeaway is that the CDC is scare-mongering, counting every Covid death as excess, when nearly all of them arent. And whistleblowers like this lady pushing back by saying "NO" excess death, which opens the door to "both sides are wrong" false symmetry, because the CDC is much much more wrong |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 2:30 PM Author: blue adventurous fat ankles I could see that take being correct, with a few tens of thousands in excess. Keep in mind the spike early in the year could have been hitting low hanging fruit that would have likely died anyway.
Finally, insurance pulls the plug on $50k per life year. How much do you think we've spent? |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 2:32 PM Author: Godawful misunderstood boltzmann to this point, my conclusion from when i analyzed the data back in may was that various parts of the country got ravaged (NYC, NJ, MI) whereas other parts actually had LESS all-cause mortality. but again i abandoned this project in may (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41445942) |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 2:32 PM Author: Lemon Flickering Rehab There's appears to be some death pullforwards in the spring spike with a lower all death rate than expected afterwards
and regardless, we're nowhere in the neighborhood of 300K excess deaths |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 2:50 PM Author: frozen cerebral dog poop shitlib The problem is everyone is looking at deaths as the disease.
Newsflash - everyone fucking dies.
What probably happened was that some olds got murked earlier than they should have by 6 months. They were dying sooner or later and probably this year.
So if you average it out over the year no shit its gonna be the same. |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 2:40 PM Author: aqua multi-billionaire It would seem to me that the only interesting question about COVID at this point has nothing to do with death, really.
COVID has killed a few thousand people in the US, by which I mean people who were not already on death's door have died of it. That's awful, and the actual tragedy (such as it is) surrounding this crisis. I'm not certain we could effectively manage these deaths--most spread is at home, the people infecting them are asymptomatic carriers, this is America and we're never going to get even 75% cotton mask compliance, much less 95% N-95, etc.
COVID has pulled many 2021 deaths into 2020, and will pull 2022 deaths into 2021. We will find ourselves with a dramatic excess of ICU capacity in 2022, as well as death rates below 2019. At least 95% of COVID deaths hasten an already certain deaths by a year or less. No one seriously disputes any of this at this point.
So really the only question is: how does COVID-19 affect the living? Those who contract it and recover (almost everyone under 80)? There are reports of worrying effects: healthy, young people contracting Type I diabetes soon after. Lingering cognitive effects. Etc. Each of these conditions in a healthy person counts for ten of the 'shoves' out of death's doorway that COVID has performed. To the extent we can, we should shift our focus entirely to how we prevent--if we can--the sequelae of COVID in the living. Deaths from COVID are either mostly unavoidable tragedies, or mostly inevitable eventualities. |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 2:41 PM Author: Lemon Flickering Rehab most if not all of these "lingering COVID symptom" people are insane hypochondriac shrew women who would otherwise be complaining about fibromyalgia (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41445995) |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 2:44 PM Author: aqua multi-billionaire Certainly not all, and I'm not sure about most, but there is a developing body of research here and it's appropriate to be concerned about the lingering effects COVID has on healthy people, by contrast to people who were already certain to die soon. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41446009) |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 2:44 PM Author: Lemon Flickering Rehab Link
I remember the complete freakout about "HEART CONDITIONS IN HEALTHY YOUNG ATHLETES" which turned out to be utter complete fraud. Media reports on the scary potential, never reports on the fraud |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 2:46 PM Author: aqua multi-billionaire https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2018688 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41446023) |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 2:49 PM Author: Lemon Flickering Rehab On the other hand, new-onset diabetes and severe metabolic complications of preexisting diabetes, including diabetic ketoacidosis and hyperosmolarity for which exceptionally high doses of insulin are warranted, have been observed in patients with Covid-19.1-3 ----
Citation goes to a study where ONE PERSON got new onset diabetes. Are you fucking shitting me? |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 2:52 PM Author: aqua multi-billionaire So, it's hard to ascribe causes to the onset of T1D. The primary reason I'm concerned about this is that I personally know a person to which this has happened. It's a lot of speculation at this point, but it's something endocrinologists are taking seriously, as they should.
If you'll notice, this is a letter to the editor, not an article. |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 2:54 PM Author: Lemon Flickering Rehab If COVID was causing widespread de novo T1D in people who caught it, it would be trumpeted nonstop by the media and the hyperventilating medical industry
The fact it isn't underscores that there is almost certainly no causal effect |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 2:55 PM Author: aqua multi-billionaire As I said before, it is difficult to ascribe causes to onset of T1D, and the research is nascent. There is nothing to point to. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41446069) |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 2:57 PM Author: Lemon Flickering Rehab The onus is on the research to prove issues. Locking down the country because of the "potential" for other problems is idiotic (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41446075) |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 2:59 PM Author: aqua multi-billionaire I didn't say that a lockdown was warranted on the basis of anything, much less the situation that I am now describing. I agree that researchers should seek to prove the connections they hypothesize exist. Stop reflexively attacking me, it's unbecoming and low IQ. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41446093) |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 3:02 PM Author: Lemon Flickering Rehab Not trying to attack you bro, just saying this line of argument is sorta dumb (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41446115) |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 3:06 PM Author: aqua multi-billionaire What line of argument? Literally all I said was 'post-COVID effects in healthy young people are worrisome', more or less. I made NO recommendations as to what should be done, if anything. I am not advocating for any kind of position other than this: if we later come to find that healthy, young people truly have been hurt by a COVID-19 infection and recovery, that will have been tragic, and if there existed some reasonable countermeasure to prevent that, it should have been the focus as opposed to preventing deaths, which are almost all inevitable over short time horizons. I take no position as to which countermeasure, if any at all, would have been appropriate, but at some point during the last few months it's where our focus should have shifted. Okay? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41446135) |
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Date: November 29th, 2020 10:47 AM Author: Gay boyish toaster church You’re a woman?
You made up a basis for fear (long term effects in the young) that so far has no foundation in fact or science.
This virus is not some mystery pathogen that fell from the heavens. It’s a coronavirus, and not even the first SARS coronavirus.
This is possibly one of (if not THE) most studied virus this year. Granted all diseases can and do cause lasting effects in some people, but you think some serious long term effects or hints of these effects will just go completely unnoticed by the hordes of researchers scrutinizing the data? |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 2:52 PM Author: lime histrionic set the matter is so politicized that we cannot land on agreed numbers for very concrete, inarguable facts (dead bodies) from the past.
I have zero hope that we could form any consensus about future events and how to avoid or manage them.
If anything, it's just laid bare that, all blame aside, america is unable to govern itself as a single nation. our institutions cannot stretch their credibility to cover all of us. A functioning country NEEDS a cdc and it needs to be the most boring, predictably behaving agency of all time, trusted by everyone. lol |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 2:54 PM Author: aqua multi-billionaire Yes. Our CDC has been pretty 'exciting' in its recommendations for management of the COVID pandemic to this point, and an exciting CDC is as desirable as an exciting bridge. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41446064) |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 2:57 PM Author: lime histrionic set okay, now time for blame. a wise fauci should have seen the danger in his rise as a celebrity in a time of cold civil war, and should have disappeared into the woodwork or even retired.
if he gave a shit about his life's work -- public health |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 3:01 PM Author: Razzmatazz gaped organic girlfriend To be fair,
>>> Implying they a hack Fed lifer Boomer has “life’s work”
Let me stop you right there hoss |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 3:08 PM Author: aqua multi-billionaire fauci certainly underscores the insignificance of # of citations (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41446144) |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 2:59 PM Author: Razzmatazz gaped organic girlfriend To be fair,
Settle down, ‘kav. I have received multiple assurances from liberals who are way smarter and better credentialed and make way more money than we do that the Moderate Adults(TM) are now firmly back in charge and will remain so going forward. Now is the time for unity—and if any stupid rednecks are dumb enough to try and step out of line, the Biden Administration will absolutely not hesitate to drone them to death in the streets. |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 3:00 PM Author: aqua multi-billionaire tyft (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41446101) |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 2:54 PM Author: Razzmatazz gaped organic girlfriend To be fair,
“Long Haul Covid” is mostly flame, and to the extent it isn’t, serious research suggests is can be effectively managed if not “cured” by taking an extremely cheap and safe drug called Ivermectin. Google it YWIA. |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 2:58 PM Author: aqua multi-billionaire I am not interested in shrews who feel sleepy all the time or whatever it is you people are referring to. Note that I said 'healthy young people'. Those who are (falsely) complaining about lingering effects of COVID are neither, and in any event I am happy to apply some kind of hypochondriac discount rate to all purported post-COVID complaints. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41446083) |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 2:55 PM Author: maroon idiotic son of senegal native I can't tell if this is like a schtick or something but the "lingering effects" retardation that :D keeps talking about are fairy tales propogated by hypochondriac reddit shrews. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41446066) |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 3:02 PM Author: aqua multi-billionaire As I mentioned, many of those falsely complaining of lingering effects are, by and large, already unhealthy, and they are of no interest to me. I apologize that I wasn't clearer: I don't care about women making things up. I care about real people who are really affected by COVID and have no reason to lie. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41446113) |
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Date: November 29th, 2020 1:59 PM Author: maroon idiotic son of senegal native Maybe I wasn't clear: The category of person you profess to care about does not exist (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41456048) |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 7:02 PM Author: shivering area Are there lingering effects for other mild colds and flus? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41447290) |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 2:45 PM Author: gold base Lmao this is one of the most devastating threads to libs I've seen in a while
Just scanned down the list of replies and I don't think a single known lib sudo has responded to this thread. Libs??? We know you're out there |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 2:49 PM Author: Flesh zippy faggot firefighter crackhouse The lib fears this thread (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41446032) |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 2:50 PM Author: Lemon Flickering Rehab (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41446040) |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 2:54 PM Author: frozen cerebral dog poop shitlib This chick should look into election fraud (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41446061) |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 7:26 PM Author: Curious coral state (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41447406) |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 2:55 PM Author: Ungodly cumskin https://www.jhunewsletter.com/article/2020/11/a-closer-look-at-u-s-deaths-due-to-covid-19
Publication has re posted the article with an explanation as to why it was removed |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 2:58 PM Author: frozen cerebral dog poop shitlib HOLY SHIT. This is legit an admission of the fraud.
they provide no evidence to the contrary other than the "300k" number the CDC tossed around. |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 2:59 PM Author: Lemon Flickering Rehab LMAO. They're literally proving her point here
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Briand also claimed in her analysis that deaths due to heart diseases, respiratory diseases, influenza and pneumonia may be incorrectly categorized as COVID-19-related deaths. However, COVID-19 disproportionately affects those with preexisting conditions, so those with those underlying conditions are statistically more likely to be severely affected and die from the virus. |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 3:01 PM Author: frozen cerebral dog poop shitlib "BECAUSE THIS ARTICLE DID NOT REPEAT THE NARRATIVE, IT HAS BEEN DETERMINED ---NOT SCIENCE---"
its shit like this that makes me believe in election fraud. |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 3:04 PM Author: Black Garrison (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41446126) |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 3:01 PM Author: Lemon Flickering Rehab She downloaded all her data from the CDC. So either the data the CDC is putting up is wrong, or the CDC is wrong.
The CDC for some reason refuses to publish the underlying data and methodology for their 300K excess death number
This should be easy enough to rectify, and the fact the CDC won't do so is a giant red flag to anyone that isn't a fucking brainwashed lib NPC |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 3:03 PM Author: Ungodly cumskin https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/excess-mortality-raw-death-count?tab=chart&stackMode=absolute®ion=World
Asking in good faith/as someone who does believe the death numbers are exaggerated. This graph (linked to in the JHU post) shows raw death totals so no “modeling.” 2020 still worse but probably not to the tune of 300k like CDC claims. |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 3:18 PM Author: Godawful misunderstood boltzmann i should note that THIS graph was consistent with my own modeling when i was doing it back in april.
i think i agree with A Game of ?. in my view, this is a classic example of the following phenomenon, which i'm beginning to see a disturbing amount of the time in conventional sociopolitical discourse: - orthodox, mainstream view emerges - serious flaw with orthodox, mainstream view becomes evident - heterodox thinkers emerge to tout existence of flaw - heterodox thinkers split into two groups: - those who believe that the flaw needs to be explored - those who believe that the existence of the flaw proves that the orthodox position is flatly wrong - orthodoxy attacks flaw by refuting heterodox group two and lumping in heterodox group one, thus ending inquiry |
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Date: November 28th, 2020 10:51 AM Author: aquamarine maniacal lodge patrolman This is exactly what happened with “voter fraud” (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41449766) |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 3:01 PM Author: lime histrionic set fan-fucking-tastic. Im scouring the 300,000 link though to see where that comes from and nothing yet
They made it a HYPERLINK and still i cant find it |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 3:02 PM Author: frozen cerebral dog poop shitlib maybe you'll find some votes in there too. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41446117) |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 3:03 PM Author: Lemon Flickering Rehab It's fucking insane. You just have to trust the CDC as to their methodology because the fucking DATA THEY ACTUALLY PUBLISH doesn't show what they say (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41446119) |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 3:04 PM Author: frozen cerebral dog poop shitlib thats how science works. welcome to global warming too. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41446124) |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 3:24 PM Author: stirring dark center scourge upon the earth (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41446236) |
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Date: March 29th, 2021 5:13 PM Author: Balding cruise ship (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#42185654) |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 2:58 PM Author: house-broken hilarious regret trailer park (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41446084) |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 3:02 PM Author: frozen cerebral dog poop shitlib I left biglaw in the pandemic and started my own firm. I can WFH whenever I want. I just want to be able to take my kids on vacation and go play golf without my wife telling me im murdering my family. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41446111) |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 3:08 PM Author: Flesh zippy faggot firefighter crackhouse is this the new lib talking point? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41446148) |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 3:28 PM Author: Lemon Flickering Rehab Yes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41446269) |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 3:08 PM Author: trip copper national jap Where the fuck are board libs?
Maybe repost thread with the title about some sex offender being killed to trick them into clicking |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 3:21 PM Author: stirring dark center scourge upon the earth (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41446216) |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 3:22 PM Author: Razzmatazz gaped organic girlfriend To be fair,
They all have important jobs and loving families so they don’t have time to post ITT |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 4:24 PM Author: carnelian office gunner (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41446530) |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 7:02 PM Author: harsh tank (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41447285) |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 3:27 PM Author: Know-it-all lettuce Unsubstantiated claims made by a dubious quack, lacking any peer reviewed credibility, defines the standard of proof in a trumpian universe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41446265) |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 3:40 PM Author: Razzmatazz gaped organic girlfriend To be fair,
Libs how does it make you feel that XO’s resident literal schizophrenic agrees with you here? |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 3:43 PM Author: Know-it-all lettuce You’re dumb and unimpressive in every way. Hope that helps. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41446349) |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 3:44 PM Author: blue adventurous fat ankles So nothing to the substance. Cowgod predicted this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41446353) |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 3:46 PM Author: Razzmatazz gaped organic girlfriend To be fair,
I unironically agree. Which makes the frequency with which I absolutely destroy libs around here that much more devastating. |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 5:19 PM Author: Know-it-all lettuce Ok, so u were brilliant, once, in predicting the Bitcoin boom
U must be one of the Winklevoss twins. At least u r rich. |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 3:47 PM Author: Fragrant corner genital piercing welp that settles it. libs are retarded (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41446365) |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 3:56 PM Author: Cerise psychic (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41446412) |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 3:29 PM Author: opaque stimulating party of the first part why would libs respond to this? your entire thread title is a lie. it's not a johns hopkins analysis, you disingenuous fucks. it's some nobodies opinion, hasn't been peer reviewed, etc. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41446279) |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 3:40 PM Author: Razzmatazz gaped organic girlfriend To be fair,
So “debunked,” then? Got it thank |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 3:55 PM Author: Cerise psychic Trumpmos, what are you trying to prove here? That ambulance chasing XO lawyers are capable of google searching talking points from Breitbart and pass it off as medical expertise?
Well, I can do that too. Took me about 30 seconds to find some from reputable sources
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-1112-0
“In relative terms, this amounts to an 18% (15–21%) increase in deaths over this period in these countries combined. Italy, Spain and England and Wales accounted for 24%, 22% and 28% of these excess deaths, respectively.”
Here’s a few more articles. A simple google search
https://www.hcplive.com/view/excess-deaths-us-increased-covid-19
https://apnews.com/article/virus-outbreak-pandemics-health-mexico-5324b5f7aa4cc551d05e9c6cf2ed4170
Anyway, if you’re still in virus fraudmo and cant wait a few months and to try out that new nearby pub, I encourage you all to go ahead! Live your life! Hug your friends! Large indoor gatherings! It’s just a virus, right? Masks r for pussies! You’re not scared of a little virus are you?
Tl;dr - XO trumpmos dumb as a rock
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Date: November 27th, 2020 3:57 PM Author: Flesh zippy faggot firefighter crackhouse why haven't you donated all of your money to help solve covid-19?
also, from your 2nd link:
Woolf and colleagues observed increases for cardiovascular disease mortality rates from late March to early April. They also noted 2 different spikes for Alzheimer disease and dementia-related deaths in the same time period, and then again from early June to late July.
“US deaths attributed to some noninfectious causes increased during COVID-19 surges,” they wrote. “Excess deaths attributed to causes other than COVID-19 could reflect deaths from unrecognized or undocumented infection with (SARS-CoV-2) or deaths among uninfected patients resulting from disruptions produced by the pandemic.” |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 4:07 PM Author: Cerise psychic Double post, see below (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41446465) |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 4:11 PM Author: Flesh zippy faggot firefighter crackhouse Despite research limitations including a reliance on provisional data and potential inaccuracies in death certificates, Woolf and colleagues concluded the pandemic has already left an indelible mark in national mortality rates. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41446483) |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 4:10 PM Author: Cerise psychic So what are you trying to say here? Yes, a shift in human behavior because of lockdown will alter death rates for everything. A decrease in auto accident deaths. Increases in suicides and mental health.
Overall, an unmitigated Covid would have been a disaster for the world. This spreads easily and 0.5-1% of 7 billion is a lot. Every year with reinfections. |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 4:12 PM Author: Flesh zippy faggot firefighter crackhouse Despite research limitations including a reliance on provisional data and potential inaccuracies in death certificates, Woolf and colleagues concluded the pandemic has already left an indelible mark in national mortality rates.
well that just settles it! nothing to see here!
now you're just making numbers up. real death rate is .005%. less bad than the flu. for every person "testing" poz you have 10 other people who have had it but never get tested.
you should also donate all of your money to fight covid-19. until you can prove that you've done that, i can't take anything you say seriously because it's literally in bad faith - you don't want to help fight this deadly disease but want to punish other people for your inactivity. |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 4:15 PM Author: Cerise psychic Sure thing bro. Whatever, just go ahead hug all of your friends. Have a family reunion during Christmas. Roll the dice. It’s just a weak virus, right? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41446500) |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 4:16 PM Author: Flesh zippy faggot firefighter crackhouse it is. glad to know you can't debunk this! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41446502) |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 3:57 PM Author: Razzmatazz gaped organic girlfriend To be fair,
“Only took me a few moments to find some reputable sources using Jewgle”
>>> “Nature” magazine >>> AP News
Lol Paulie just lol
PS: You’re literally 5’4”, we’ve all seen the pictures. Have a good holiday weekend! |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 4:02 PM Author: Cerise psychic You realize that nature is one of the world’s leading scientific journal? But sure, I’ll take my cues from guys like Alex Jones instead (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41446450) |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 4:08 PM Author: Razzmatazz gaped organic girlfriend To be fair,
Yep right up there with NEJM. Unfortunately for Trumptards, the *science* and the *medicine* is clear: Biden is the scientifically and medically correct vote for President. Sorry, it’s science and medicine, bros.
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMe2029812
While we’re talking about unsubstantiated claims and no evidence—would you consider the photos of you looking hilariously short that get passed around the Bort like Benzo in a prison ward to be “evidence” of how hilariously tiny you are? Or is that debunked? What does the science say? |
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Date: November 28th, 2020 8:58 AM Author: Thirsty Red Shrine Halford Where did PP go? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41449354) |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 7:04 PM Author: harsh tank lmao he's nowhere near 5'4" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41447299) |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 7:27 PM Author: shivering area (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41447410) |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 4:08 PM Author: Flesh zippy faggot firefighter crackhouse and from your 3rd link
But the Health Department said experts had now analyzed databases of death certificates up to late September — the latest date for which complete data was available — to come up with the latest figure of 139,153. The analysis picked up symptoms related to COVID-19 mentioned on death certificates even if they weren’t listed as the cause of death.
Excess deaths are calculated by comparing the expected number of deaths from an average of previous years to those in 2020.
The department did not explain the other 54,000 “excess” deaths, but experts in other countries have suggested that more people may have died from non-coronavirus causes simply because hospitals were crowded with COVID-19 patients, or people were wary of seeking medical attention for other illnesses because they feared getting infected
so these aren't even real numbers, they're just guessing. lol @ your "sources" |
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Date: November 29th, 2020 8:56 AM Author: blue adventurous fat ankles Total bullshit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41454629) |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 4:06 PM Author: Aphrodisiac plum den cuckold https://www.statnews.com/2020/10/20/cdc-data-excess-deaths-covid-19/ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41446463) |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 4:10 PM Author: Razzmatazz gaped organic girlfriend To be fair,
Thanks for joining us! To quote a line libpedos are used to hearing: “Why don’t you come have a seat over here?” |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 5:22 PM Author: Supple indecent site love of her life with highest rates among people of color with highest rates among people of color with highest rates among people of color
Covid is racist! |
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Date: November 29th, 2020 9:03 AM Author: Clear ceo internal respiration impossible that niggers are just unhealthy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41454650) |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 6:56 PM Author: Exciting fiercely-loyal fanboi how do this and the numbers in OP reconcile? they both claim to be from the CDC data. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41447255) |
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Date: November 28th, 2020 11:24 AM Author: blue adventurous fat ankles They don't. The school put out a 'correction' where they refute her but all they do is reiterate the cdc numbers her study specifically called into question. They don't touch the drop in heart disease deaths obvious bullshit. They made the paper available again but only by pdf download. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41449964) |
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Date: November 28th, 2020 11:25 AM Author: blue adventurous fat ankles https://mobile.twitter.com/JHUNewsLetter/status/1332398381751169024 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41449967) |
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Date: November 28th, 2020 12:09 PM Author: Sickened forum Look at the sources, they are extrapolating based on a few localities afaik. I can't find some Master Death Database online for all years.
Also the deaths by race make no sense, are we really supposed to believe that hispanic deaths have doubled YoY, smh. |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 11:00 PM Author: Mint Marketing Idea one surprise in all this is that a female was sufficiently interested in and dedicated enough and sufficiently independently minded to create this dissent document...very unusual (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41448291) |
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Date: November 28th, 2020 8:11 AM Author: Bronze depressive location Even on xo, women make up a big part of the hardcore trumpmo crowd. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41449274) |
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Date: November 28th, 2020 8:40 AM Author: Supple indecent site love of her life Who besides get Thee? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41449318) |
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Date: November 28th, 2020 8:43 AM Author: Bronze depressive location Green jolly rancher, me, tbf (allegedly). I also know a lot of hardcore republican women irl. Many are sick of the bs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41449320) |
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Date: November 28th, 2020 11:19 PM Author: Curious coral state 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41453646) |
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Date: November 27th, 2020 11:33 PM Author: Mint Marketing Idea this is the same game the "scientists" are playing with the genetic evidence supposedly showing that modern man supposedly came from an out of africa diaspora about 70k years ago (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41448437) |
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Date: November 28th, 2020 8:43 AM Author: swashbuckling smoky stage ... and "Climate Change" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41449321) |
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Date: November 28th, 2020 10:46 AM Author: Comical quadroon cuckoldry Look at NASA's 1999 historical graph of temperatures in North America. That's right before the Global Warming (now "Climate Change!) crowd took over.
Temps peaked in the early 1930s, dropped until 1979, rose until 2000, and have stayed flat since. |
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Date: November 29th, 2020 9:12 AM Author: Gay boyish toaster church See also wildfires, coral bleaching, animal “extinctions,” etc., etc. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41454676) |
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Date: November 29th, 2020 9:16 AM Author: blue adventurous fat ankles As you might expect with increased carbon (plant food) and more energy retained, photosynthesis has exploded. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41454684) |
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Date: November 29th, 2020 11:05 AM Author: Gay boyish toaster church Would be funny if mankind kicked off the industrial revolution just in time to rescue the earth from carbon starvation. We released all the trapped co2 back into the atmosphere to revitalize the earth.
Famines used to be a common occurrence that we hardly hear about currently (understandably some of improvement is due to our tech advances). |
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Date: November 29th, 2020 2:59 PM Author: blue adventurous fat ankles https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2016/carbon-dioxide-fertilization-greening-earth/
Plants haven't had it this good in thousands of years. |
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Date: November 30th, 2020 2:19 AM Author: blue adventurous fat ankles https://www.noagendashow.net/listen/1299
Second story on the podcast. They played the presentation she gave. I sent both links over and got a reply same day. |
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Date: November 30th, 2020 2:21 AM Author: blue adventurous fat ankles They even cover the retraction and web archive. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41459592) |
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Date: November 30th, 2020 1:20 PM Author: titillating slap-happy box office Xo on the leading edge as always (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41461565) |
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Date: November 30th, 2020 1:22 PM Author: mauve mind-boggling headpube (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41461572) |
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Date: November 30th, 2020 2:02 PM Author: crimson ticket booth dragon A drop in deaths for heart disease and other leading causes of death (cancer) is not at all unexpected given what we've seen in past studies that have reviewed fatality rates after an immediate cessation in surgeries (in one study a strike by surgeons in area hospitals). The dirty little secret in American medicine is that surgeries and long-term hospital stays for heart disease and cancer can hasten a patient's death more often than we'd care to admit. There's an argument that in the long-run as a population we're better with these medical interventions, but at least in the short run, people are much more likely to enter a hospital and die than if they stayed at home with their cancer or heart disease.
The decline in flu and pneumonia deaths is expected given the significant decline in people testing positive for flu (which is itself expected since the flu is half as contagious as COVID and people are more likely now to wear masks, stay home, socially distance etc.).
I think the author's conclusion is really reckless, particularly for someone claiming to be an accomplished statistician. The above points are well known and the more likely explanation than the author's baseless speculation about improper classification of deaths. Not mention the recent raw death totals (discussed in another xo thread) showing that we are on track for about 500k more deaths than the average number of deaths in 2017 through 2019. |
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Date: November 30th, 2020 2:05 PM Author: blue adventurous fat ankles She covered all of that in her webinar. Deaths per day has stayed constant going back through 2019. There isn't anything to support the 500k extra deaths. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41461923) |
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Date: November 30th, 2020 2:25 PM Author: crimson ticket booth dragon She actually argues the opposite on heart disease deaths (thinks should be higher than usual), which I think is ridiculous given what we know about the relationship in the short run between hospitalizations and fatalities with those suffering from cancer and heart disease. She's playing the shit-stirrer for publicity. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41462078) |
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Date: December 1st, 2020 4:43 PM Author: blue adventurous fat ankles Yeah of somebody has a cold and dies from heart complications we should blame the death on the cold and not years of shit lifestyle choices. Good idea. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4699457&forum_id=2#41468933) |
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